Noah's flood was only 25 ft deep.

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I am aware there are certain opinions of the flood that assert it was local, and that it was only 15 cubits deep (24.5 ft deep)

All sorts of thoughts and statements follow these assertions.

Was it really covering the mountains?
That would require several miles of depth, with the ark floating on top in the clouds.

Which is true?
 

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I am aware there are certain opinions of the flood that assert it was local, and that it was only 15 cubits deep (24.5 ft deep)

All sorts of thoughts and statements follow these assertions.

Was it really covering the mountains?
That would require several miles of depth, with the ark floating on top in the clouds.

Which is true?
I think he’s saying after it covered the tops of the mountains and hills ot went fifteen more cubits above them

“And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth. In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth. And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭7:10-12, 17-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬


It seems it covered all the highest hills and then proceeded further until the mountains also were covered
 
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I think he’s saying after it covered the tops of the mountains and hills ot went fifteen more cubits above them

“And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth. In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth. And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭7:10-12, 17-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬


It seems it covered all the highest hills and then proceeded further until the mountains also were covered
i agree !
 

Pilgrimshope

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I’m glad lol that’s rare in this forum haha always a joy when we find agreement and peace God bless and keep you always and may he hug you tighter until you can’t breath without him
 

Dino246

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I am aware there are certain opinions of the flood that assert it was local, and that it was only 15 cubits deep (24.5 ft deep)

All sorts of thoughts and statements follow these assertions.

Was it really covering the mountains?
That would require several miles of depth, with the ark floating on top in the clouds.

Which is true?
Genesis 7:20 "The waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits deep."

The waters covered the mountains, not merely the land, to a depth of fifteen cubits (25 feet is close enough). However, we err if we assume that the present-day mountains existed at that time. Geological research suggests that the continents shifted during the flood, which resulted in the mountains we see today. In other words, a whole lot less water was needed to cover the mountains at that time.
 
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I belief the Scripture.
 

Nehemiah6

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However, we err if we assume that the present-day mountains existed at that time.
Since Mount Ararat is named in connection with the Flood, it was a pre-existing mountain. And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. (Gen 8:4) Ararat is about 17,000 feet high (about 3.2 miles high). The waters of the Flood were about 25 feet above that height. Therefore taking sea level as the base, the Flood waters were over three miles high.
 

Dino246

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Since Mount Ararat is named in connection with the Flood, it was a pre-existing mountain. And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. (Gen 8:4) Ararat is about 17,000 feet high (about 3.2 miles high). The waters of the Flood were about 25 feet above that height. Therefore taking sea level as the base, the Flood waters were over three miles high.
The text says "upon the mountains of Ararat", not "on Mount Ararat." It's describing a region, not a mountain. Further, nothing in the text indicates that the mountains existed prior to the flood, and many places were named anachronistically in Scripture.
 

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I am aware there are certain opinions of the flood that assert it was local, and that it was only 15 cubits deep (24.5 ft deep)

All sorts of thoughts and statements follow these assertions.

Was it really covering the mountains?
That would require several miles of depth, with the ark floating on top in the clouds.

Which is true?
None of the above.

I don't go beyond what is written.
I don't believe that it's a good idea to do so. It detracts from the main point of the story.
 

Nehemiah6

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The text says "upon the mountains of Ararat", not "on Mount Ararat." It's describing a region, not a mountain. Further, nothing in the text indicates that the mountains existed prior to the flood, and many places were named anachronistically in Scripture.
Makes no difference. It was a pre-existing region which would also have been about the height of Mt Ararat (just like any mountain range).
 
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If you believe the Earth is a globe, then according to the consensus information, if all the land were leveled out, there is enough water in the oceans to cover the land for a depth of nearly two miles.

I no longer believe the Earth is a globe, however, being a Biblical flat earther as of about a year ago.

Either way, the Bible makes it clear that the Flood covered the highest mountain. The waters were deep enough, and persisted long enough, and were likely tempestuous enough, that no one, man or giant, could "survival float" long enough to survive them.

Also, there's no reason why the cloud level couldn't just raise with the new surface sea level. Or maybe it did stay the same, and the flooded seas were covered in thick fog.
 

Dino246

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Makes no difference. It was a pre-existing region which would also have been about the height of Mt Ararat (just like any mountain range).
That, sir, is called speculation.
 
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The text says "upon the mountains of Ararat", not "on Mount Ararat." It's describing a region, not a mountain. Further, nothing in the text indicates that the mountains existed prior to the flood, and many places were named anachronistically in Scripture.
Seashells have been found in the tops of mountains authenticating the height of the flood waters.
 
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None of the above.

I don't go beyond what is written.
I don't believe that it's a good idea to do so. It detracts from the main point of the story.
Mountains are written in the story.
So the OP stands
 
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From;
https://www.biblestudy.org/



Ararat
Bible Meaning: Curse reversed, precipitation of curse
Strong's Concordance #H780
The word "Armenia," used in the KJV version of 2Kings 19:37 and Isaiah 37:38, is translated from the same Hebrew word elsewhere recorded as Ararat.

The "mountains of Ararat" (Genesis 8:4) are composed of two primary peaks. The one labeled "Greater" has a present elevation of 5,137 meters (16,854 feet). The other, known as Little Ararat, is 3,896 meters (12,782 feet) tall. It is in these mountains that Noah's Ark rested after the great flood killed roughly 3 to 4 billion people.
 
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Some indicate the mountains formed during the flood.

that idea does not fit.

Genesis 7:20
Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

That reads, "the existing mountains were covered."
 

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Genesis 7:20-21 (NKJV)
20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. 21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man.

Amen Jesus!
 

Dino246

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Seashells have been found in the tops of mountains authenticating the height of the flood waters.
Wrong; it indicates that those rocks were under the sea surface at some point. Let’s not make logical errors.

Again, geological research suggests strongly that the uplift of mountains occurred during or soon after the flood.
 

Dino246

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Some indicate the mountains formed during the flood.

that idea does not fit.

Genesis 7:20
Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

That reads, "the existing mountains were covered."
Yes, but that doesn’t prove those mountains existed after the flood.
 

Dino246

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For those interested in the geology of the flood, I recommend this video...