Chip Implants

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Duckybill said:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...-stop-worrying-and-love-the-microchip/570946/

Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Still not working well enough.

Not going to happen yet.

Look, we have massive protests over vaccine mandates now.
What makes you think that we are going to blindly accept a HUGE needle to implant a chip that still doesn't last, prone to breaking down, and is easily surfed and codes stolen.

There's no reason to have one implanted. A lot more reasons to not implant them. They cause more issues than they solve currently.
 
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Duckybill said:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...-stop-worrying-and-love-the-microchip/570946/

Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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The Scripture says mark, as can be seen, not implant.
While I will not take a chip implant, it is not the mark of the beast.
Why not just accept what the Scripture clearly states.
 
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RichMan said:
The Scripture says mark, as can be seen, not implant.
While I will not take a chip implant, it is not the mark of the beast.
Why not just accept what the Scripture clearly states.
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I think we limit ourselves when we say "it is just a mark" and leave ourselves open to deception.
Why not just accept what the Scripture clearly says?

Revelation 13:16-18
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

As the OP tried to show everyone, it can be more than just a literal mark or etching on the right hand or forehead. It can be a name or number which is not limited to a mark. A name or a number doesn't have to be a literal etching because in the modern day it's possible to produce names and numbers without literally engraving them. That could be a chip for sure.
 
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Runningman said:
I think we limit ourselves when we say "it is just a mark" and leave ourselves open to deception.
Why not just accept what the Scripture clearly says?

Revelation 13:16-18
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

As the OP tried to show everyone, it can be more than just a literal mark or etching on the right hand or forehead. It can be a name or number which is not limited to a mark. A name or a number doesn't have to be a literal etching because in the modern day it's possible to produce names and numbers without literally engraving them. That could be a chip for sure.
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In order for a chip to work, there must be electronic equipment to read and process the info.
Any interruption in any link of this system would make the chip useless.
If one is to believe Scripture, what is normal today will not exist during the reign of the man of sin so he will require a visible mark.
 
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RichMan said:
In order for a chip to work, there must be electronic equipment to read and process the info.
Any interruption in any link of this system would make the chip useless.
If one is to believe Scripture, what is normal today will not exist during the reign of the man of sin so he will require a visible mark.
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The great tribulation economy relies on having the mark, name, or number. If each consumer isn't authenticated against a database of known, real and genuine, anti-Christ worshippers then the whole economy wouldn't be aligned with what scripture says it will be. That means there would just be a lot of forgeries and counterfeiters in the mark of the beast economy.

Why take the mark of the beast when you can simply lie and not do it? That'll be what most people want to do in your theory.

Revelation 13:17
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

This means that in order to make Revelation 13:17 true then there needs to be a method in place to detect markless names or numbers, such as microchips for example. That means there needs to be technology available to do this or Revelation 13:17 would stand in contradiction to reality.
 
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Runningman said:
The great tribulation economy relies on having the mark, name, or number. If each consumer isn't authenticated against a database of known, real and genuine, anti-Christ worshippers then the whole economy wouldn't be aligned with what scripture says it will be. That means there would just be a lot of forgeries and counterfeiters in the mark of the beast economy.

Why take the mark of the beast when you can simply lie and not do it? That'll be what most people want to do in your theory.

Revelation 13:17
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

This means that in order to make Revelation 13:17 true then there needs to be a method in place to detect markless names or numbers, such as microchips for example. That means there needs to be technology available to do this or Revelation 13:17 would stand in contradiction to reality.
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You trust that the world economy and its technology will survive the coming wars and disasters, but I do not.
 
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RichMan said:
You trust that the world economy and its technology will survive the coming wars and disasters, but I do not.
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I think the world economy must fail in order to fall into the hands of the Abomination that causes Desolation.

I only wonder what kind of worship he will demand that won't cause most people to become alarmed. Atheists don't want to worship in a recognizable way. So how will they worship him?
 
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Actually the mark is a counterfeit

Deuteronomy 11:18-19
“You shall therefore impress these words of mine on your heart and on your soul; and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontals on your forehead. You shall teach them to your sons, talking of them when you sit in your house and when you walk along the road and when you lie down and when you rise up.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Foreheads
 
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Cabrillo said:
I think the world economy must fail in order to fall into the hands of the Abomination that causes Desolation.

I only wonder what kind of worship he will demand that won't cause most people to become alarmed. Atheists don't want to worship in a recognizable way. So how will they worship him?
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Just a thought here.
Most "worship" today is fake. Nothing more than lip service.
Could be the same is true when it comes to "worship" of the beast.
Some people will do what is necessary to survive even if they have to fake it.
 
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pottersclay said:
Actually the mark is a counterfeit

Deuteronomy 11:18-19
“You shall therefore impress these words of mine on your heart and on your soul; and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontals on your forehead. You shall teach them to your sons, talking of them when you sit in your house and when you walk along the road and when you lie down and when you rise up.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Foreheads
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Just like the final beast will be a counterfeit Christ thus Anti-Christ.
 
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RichMan said:
Just a thought here.
Most "worship" today is fake. Nothing more than lip service.
Could be the same is true when it comes to "worship" of the beast.
Some people will do what is necessary to survive even if they have to fake it.
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Oh yes but even if they're faking but they bow or kneel to the Beast or his image are they damned even if they were faking?

Could it be the equivalent of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?
 
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RichMan said:
You trust that the world economy and its technology will survive the coming wars and disasters, but I do not.
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You trust that the world economy and its technology will not survive the coming wars and disasters, but I do.
 
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Cabrillo said:
It won't survive Armageddon.
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Oops… did you forget about the war after Armageddon, after the millennium, consisting of Gog, Magog, and Satan? They’re from the four quarters of the Earth; this is a global army mobilizing against the saints.

How do you suppose Satan is able to mobilize a global army without the use of some kind of mass communication through use of technology?

Read this carefully.

Revelation 20:7-10
7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 
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Runningman said:
Oops… did you forget about the war after Armageddon, after the millennium, consisting of Gog, Magog, and Satan? They’re from the four quarters of the Earth; this is a global army mobilizing against the saints.

How do you suppose Satan is able to mobilize a global army without the use of some kind of mass communication through use of technology?

Read this carefully.

Revelation 20:7-10
7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
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Lucifer probably invented propaganda and has been a master at it for at least 5,000 years. The system we know can certainly replaced in the 1,000 he is imprisoned.
 
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Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
 
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RichMan said:
The Scripture says mark, as can be seen, not implant.
While I will not take a chip implant, it is not the mark of the beast.
Why not just accept what the Scripture clearly states.
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But you didn't cite any Scripture. I did.
 
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Cabrillo said:
I think the world economy must fail in order to fall into the hands of the Abomination that causes Desolation.

I only wonder what kind of worship he will demand that won't cause most people to become alarmed. Atheists don't want to worship in a recognizable way. So how will they worship him?
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Worship is not limited nor necessitated by traditional kneeling/praying and religion.

Fans of sports are worshipping their teams and favorite players every week.
Most people worship through desire = just wanting/lusting after the world and things of the world is worship.

The world has been thoroughly conditioned to worship in a way that most just accept as 'normal everyday living' apart from religion.

Therefore the Mark is already in existence in the spirit of the world and will manifest at the appointed time - coming soon.
 
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