DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT INSTRUCT US TO BE CLOTHED IN PUBLIC?

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Sudakar said:
They started to have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil after eating the forbidden fruit (Genesis 3:22:"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil").
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This does not address the point that God forbid the knowledge of good and evil only that they must not eat the fruit of that particular tree.
 
ResidentAlien

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If the Spirit or scripture instruct us to be clothed in public why didn't the Spirit or scripture instruct Adam and Eve to be clothed in public in God's most holy presence?
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Sudakar, if you're trying to make a case for clothing optional on religious grounds, just strip down and start walking around in public, see how far it gets you.
 
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Sudakar, if you're trying to make a case for clothing optional on religious grounds, just strip down and start walking around in public, see how far it gets you.
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Are you justified before God and humans by fulfilling the moral law? Are you scared you will face consequences before humans if you violate the moral law?
 
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tourist said:
This does not address the point that God forbid the knowledge of good and evil only that they must not eat the fruit of that particular tree.
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So you agree it wasn't God's will for them to have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil?

If it was God's will for them to have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil, why did they suddenly flee from God over staying unclothed?
 
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Sudakar said:
You mean babies are born with nature of sin? If so did Adam and Eve have the nature of sin
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Adam and Eve weren't born. So their relationship to sin is not comparable to ours.
Are we done here?
You keep asking me things that aren't connected to the answers I gave.
You may not understand why these things are the way they are, but that doesn't mean the things you don't understand are untrue.
 
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Sudakar said:
Are you justified before God and humans by fulfilling the moral law? Are you scared you will face consequences before humans if you violate the moral law?
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I have no clue what you're talking about. Just forget I said anything.
 
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Sudakar said:
So you agree it wasn't God's will for them to have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil?

If it was God's will for them to have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil, why did they suddenly flee from God over staying unclothed?
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Again, the only thing that God forbade them to do was eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and not the actual knowledge itself. They hid from the Lord because they were afraid because they had sin.
 
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Again, the only thing that God forbade them to do was eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and not the actual knowledge itself. They hid from the Lord because they were afraid because they had sin.
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So why didn't they have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil before they ate the forbidden fruit? Genesis 3:22: "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil". Don't dodge.
 
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I have no clue what you're talking about. Just forget I said anything.
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Don't you understand these questions?

Are you justified before God and humans by fulfilling the moral law? Are you scared you will face consequences before humans if you violate the moral law?
 
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Adam and Eve weren't born. So their relationship to sin is not comparable to ours.
Are we done here?
You keep asking me things that aren't connected to the answers I gave.
You may not understand why these things are the way they are, but that doesn't mean the things you don't understand are untrue.
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As Adam and Eve were unclothed in God's most holy presence, babies have evil acts with reference to the forbidden knowledge of good & evil. But both didn't have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.

Again you are confusing between the forbidden knowledge of good & evil and evil acts.

Simply because babies have evil acts doesn't mean they have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.

Babies believe in Jesus & will enter heaven if they die young.
 
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Sudakar said:
As Adam and Eve were unclothed in God's most holy presence, babies have evil acts with reference to the forbidden knowledge of good & evil. But both didn't have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.

Again you are confusing between the forbidden knowledge of good & evil and evil acts.

Simply because babies have evil acts doesn't mean they have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.

Babies believe in Jesus & will enter heaven if they die young.
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Some Scripture would be nice. I will respond to Scriptural input. Thank you for accepting my answers.
 
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Some Scripture would be nice. I will respond to Scriptural input. Thank you for accepting my answers.
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I have verified my following post to be based on scripture:

As Adam and Eve were unclothed in God's most holy presence, babies have evil acts with reference to the forbidden knowledge of good & evil. But both didn't have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.

Again you are confusing between the forbidden knowledge of good & evil and evil acts.

Simply because babies have evil acts doesn't mean they have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.

Babies believe in Jesus & will enter heaven if they die young.
 
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I have verified my following post to be based on scripture:

As Adam and Eve were unclothed in God's most holy presence, babies have evil acts with reference to the forbidden knowledge of good & evil. But both didn't have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.

Again you are confusing between the forbidden knowledge of good & evil and evil acts.

Simply because babies have evil acts doesn't mean they have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.

Babies believe in Jesus & will enter heaven if they die young.
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Well that's great for your personal thought, but if you want to have a discussion with someone, you should provide Scripture with your assertions.
Can you provide Scripture for me to support your assertions, such as:

1. "babies have evil acts with reference to the forbidden knowledge"
2. the difference between "forbidden knowledge of good & evil and evil acts"
3. "Babies believe in Jesus"
 
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Diakonos said:
Well that's great for your personal thought, but if you want to have a discussion with someone, you should provide Scripture with your assertions.
Can you provide Scripture for me to support your assertions, such as:

1. "babies have evil acts with reference to the forbidden knowledge"
2. the difference between "forbidden knowledge of good & evil and evil acts"
3. "Babies believe in Jesus"
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1. "babies have evil acts with reference to the forbidden knowledge": You believed this & called it sinful nature.
2. the difference between "forbidden knowledge of good & evil and evil acts": Adam & Eve were unclothed in God's most holy presence which is sinful seen through the knowledge of good and evil. This is the difference.
3. "Babies believe in Jesus": (Mathew18:6).
 
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Sudakar said:
Don't you understand these questions?

Are you justified before God and humans by fulfilling the moral law? Are you scared you will face consequences before humans if you violate the moral law?
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I understand the questions I just don't get what you're point is. Instead of creating mazes, get the point man.
 
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Sudakar said:
So why didn't they have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil before they ate the forbidden fruit? Genesis 3:22: "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil". Don't dodge.
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I am not going to dodge but the thing is, this particular topic is not really on my short list of interesting topics. So, therefore, I will not be responding to you anymore on this thread. I can't see the relevance in our numerous exchanges as to the Holy Spirit saying to be clothed in public. This whole thread is bizarre and can't see any edification or clarification whatsoever. Besides the few humorous aspects in some of the posts, this thread is a total waste of my precious time.
 
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Sudakar said:
Simply because babies have evil acts doesn't mean they have the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.

Babies believe in Jesus & will enter heaven if they die young.
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Specifically, what evil acts do babies commit?
 
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tourist said:
The thing is, it's pointless.
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yeah if you read his posts the whole point he’s getting at is we shouldn’t know the difference in good and evil he thinks that’s forbidden and some how a transgression because adam Ate some fruit.

I agree it’s a pointless endevour
 
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