Are we seeing the Ezekiel 38 Gog/Magog war with Israel

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ZNP

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/now-israel-comes-largest-ever-cyber-attack-history/

Is it beginning?

The countries of Gog/Magog refer to an alliance between Russia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Turkey. There might be some other countries as well (Iran) but this would also be where Damascus is completely and totally leveled so that it will never be inhabited again except by wild animals.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rs-real-possibility-nuclear-war-russia-video/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-steve-harrigan-fox-news-upon-return-ukraine/

According to the prophecies once Russia (the bear) has 3 ribs in its mouth it rises to devour much flesh.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ent-zelensky-kiev-courageous-display-support/
 
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At 15:00 (Moscow time) Vladimir Putin will address the Russians. Is that going to signal a new move in Ukraine?
24.1KviewsAmir Tsarfati, 13:43

Amir Tsarfati

Suspicious flights of Russian spy planes as well as President Putin’s plane may indicate a preparation for something big in the Ukraine war.
23.6KviewsAmir Tsarfati, 13:48

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What's going on here?
-RuAF Tupolev Tu-204-300 RSD3
-RuAF Sukhoi Superjet 100-95B RSD71
-RuAF A319-115CJ RSD72
-RuAF An-148-100E RSD73
-RuAF Ilyushin Il-96-300PU RSD74
-RuAF Tupolev Tu-214PU RSD78
-RuAF Tupolev Tu-214SR RSD79
-RuAF SuperJet 100-95B RSD80
23.5KviewsAmir Tsarfati, 13:51

Amir Tsarfati

Boris Johnson’s trip to Saudi Arabia failed. The Saudis refused to increase oil production in order to reduce oil prices.
18.0KviewsAmir Tsarfati, 14:22

Amir Tsarfati

There is every bit of evidence that suggests that Putin is not in Moscow and that a hiding in a bunker in the Ural Mountains.
9.4KviewsAmir Tsarfati, 15:18

Amir Tsarfati

According to German newspaper Bild, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was on a flight to Beijing, China, yesterday , but the plane turned around midway and flew back to Moscow.
8.8KviewsAmir Tsarfati, edited 15:20
 
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Oblio

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Mean orange man bad! Now that he's out of office, we can all die in peace! Or is that pieces?
 

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No.. The Gog Magog war happens 1000 years after the return of Jesus.. It is way into the future..
 
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Oblio

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It wouldn't surprise me as I've been half-expecting to see a limited nuclear exchange for awhile now, but we'll see.
 
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Ruby123

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It wouldn't surprise me as I've been half-expecting to see a limited nuclear exchange for awhile now, but we'll see.
Maybe things are about to start if it is time or they will fizzle out if not quite time yet. I guess we will soon enough know.
 

ZNP

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There are 3 plausible interpretations of Ezekiel 38:

1. It takes place at the end of the millenial reign

2. It is the same as Armageddon at the end of the 70th week during the great tribulation

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3. It takes place prior to the 70th week.

I subscribe to the third view because Armageddon says all the nations come to fight whereas Ezekiel 38 is very specific about the God, Magog nations (basically all the 'stans' like Pakistan and Afghanistan, etc, and also Turkey) in addition to to those it mentions Russia. So the nations fighting Israel are not the same even though the location is very similar.

I also reject the first view because it says Israel burns the weapons for seven years. That does not eliminate the Millenial reign but it certainly leans toward the third view.

I can understand people subscribing to one of the other two theories, what I cannot understand is the assurance with which they dismiss this event taking place prior to the Tribulation? After all a miraculous defeat of a coalition of Islamic nations could pave the way for the Antichrist to confirm the covenant with the many concerning Israel rebuilding the Temple. Spell it out, are you telling us that God has spoken to you directly and specifically saying that the 3rd interpretation is not correct?
 

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/now-israel-comes-largest-ever-cyber-attack-history/

Is it beginning?

The countries of Gog/Magog refer to an alliance between Russia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Turkey. There might be some other countries as well (Iran) but this would also be where Damascus is completely and totally leveled so that it will never be inhabited again except by wild animals.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rs-real-possibility-nuclear-war-russia-video/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-steve-harrigan-fox-news-upon-return-ukraine/

According to the prophecies once Russia (the bear) has 3 ribs in its mouth it rises to devour much flesh.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ent-zelensky-kiev-courageous-display-support/
In Ezekiel 38 and 39 Gog is an individual. Where did you get the idea it's a country?

When you say "Gog," do you mean the country or countries he rules?
 

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I did a write up on the Gog Magog war a few years ago now.. I copied it and am pasting it below..

Revelation 20
7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are.

Now Gog Magog is mentioned once in the OT in Ezekiel 38 and again in the Revelation 20. In revelation 20 this great battle and slaughter happens After the 1000 year reign of the Messiah Jesus. But the naming of Gog Magog is not the only interesting fact that leads me to believe that Ezekiel 38 happens at the end of the 1000 years. Lets read:



Ezekiel 38
1 Now the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 and say, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6 Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops—many people are with you.


Stop there. Now it mentions the troops from Persia Ethiopia and Libya. Why does the prophecy not mention the Egyptians? Where are the Syrians? or Sinar/Iraq? Where are all these peoples? Are the Libyans going to march through Egypt to attack Israel while the whole Egyptian nation sits quietly as the tanks roll by? Are the Iraqi's going to be doing the same when the Persians head west to Israel? And likewise is Syria and Lebanon going to take no part with the armies of the north? What has happened to these nations like Egypt and Syria? Could it be at the time of this war that these nations no longer exist? that they where destroyed 1000 years before and their lands where incorporated into the Messianic Kingdom? Take the time now to read Ezekiel 32 starting from verse 11 to the end.



God promised to the descendants of Abraham a promised land that was far bigger than the one that He established for them in the time of Moses. lets read about it.

Genesis 15
17 And it came to pass, when the sun went down and it was dark, that behold, there appeared a smoking oven and a burning torch that passed between those pieces. 18 On the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying:

“To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates


So God has promised the descendants of Abraham will have a Land that includes the Nile and the Euphrates. Now Persia borders the land of the Euphrates to the east and Libya borders the land of the Nile to the west and Ethiopia borders the land of the Nile to the south. So at the time of Ezekiel the nations of Libya Ethiopia and Persia will border the greater Messianic Kingdom of the Messiah Jesus.

So the reason that the nations like Egypt and Syria are not mentioned in Ezekiel 38 is because they will have long been destroyed 1000 years before the battle detailed in Ezekiel 38.



Now let us continue to read Ezekiel 38:

7 “Prepare yourself and be ready, you and all your companies that are gathered about you; and be a guard for them. 8 After many days you will be visited. In the latter years you will come into the land of those brought back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely.


Now stop."visited". Who is going to visit them in the latter years? lets read Revelation 20 again:


Revelation 20
7 Now when the thousand years have expired, satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them


Also note how Ezekiel describes the condition of safety of the people dwelling in Israel: "now all of them dwell safely." Does that describe the state of affairs of Israel today?? No not in the slightest. But to make the distinction more clear read on for the next 2 verses that more clearly describe the idyllic situation that will prevail in Israel at this time:


Ezekiel38
9 You will ascend, coming like a storm, covering the land like a cloud, you and all your troops and many peoples with you.”

10 ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: 11 You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates’


With no walls? no bars nor gates? Look at Israel today look at the walls, the barbed wire, the compounds, the bars, the perilous state of security. Do the people of Israel dwell in peace and safety? Or in a state of siege and under threat of terror?

What kind of society needs no walls no bars or even gates? Israel today or Israel during the Reign of The Messiah Jesus? Come to think of it does any society today live in peace and safety with no need for security walls or bars or gates?



Ezekiel 38
12 to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land. 13 Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, ‘Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?’”’


During the 1000 year rule of the Messiah Jesus, we are told that many of the nations will give up their precious things and make great offering of the wealth of the nations to the Messianic kingdom. Will it be all this wealth that they will be seeking to plunder, great plunder?

I believe most people have got the timing of this Ezekiel 38 battle wrong. It is not soon at all but fore tells of the final satanic rebellion that will happen at the end of the 1000 year reign of the Messiah Jesus.


Anyway that's my thoughts on Ezekiel 38 and when it will happen in the future..
 

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WASHINGTON, D.C.—In an emotional plea before Congress today, Ukrainian president Zelensky made a common-sense request for America to institute a no-fly zone and start WWIII.

"Please," said Zelensky through a translator. "This shouldn't be that hard. All I'm asking for is for an all-out war between the nuclear powers of Russia, America, and China. It's that easy! What's there to even think about here?"

According to sources, most members of Congress weren't entirely convinced until Zelensky whipped out his guitar and sang a lovely Ukrainian ballad, causing the many of the politicians in the room to squeal and swoon with delight.

As the lovely song sung by the dreamy Ukrainian leader progressed, Nancy Pelosi began chanting "WORLD WAR THREE! WORLD WAR THREE!" The chant spread throughout the room as the rest of Congress began pumping their fists and shouting "WORLD WAR THREE! WORLD WAR THREE! WORLD WAR THREE!"

Witnesses reported that a gaggle of lobbyists from Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics were later seen high-fiving in the back of the room. (Babylon Bee)
 
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Oblio

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And he's so nice about it, too!
 
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Ruby123

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WASHINGTON, D.C.—In an emotional plea before Congress today, Ukrainian president Zelensky made a common-sense request for America to institute a no-fly zone and start WWIII.

"Please," said Zelensky through a translator. "This shouldn't be that hard. All I'm asking for is for an all-out war between the nuclear powers of Russia, America, and China. It's that easy! What's there to even think about here?"

According to sources, most members of Congress weren't entirely convinced until Zelensky whipped out his guitar and sang a lovely Ukrainian ballad, causing the many of the politicians in the room to squeal and swoon with delight.

As the lovely song sung by the dreamy Ukrainian leader progressed, Nancy Pelosi began chanting "WORLD WAR THREE! WORLD WAR THREE!" The chant spread throughout the room as the rest of Congress began pumping their fists and shouting "WORLD WAR THREE! WORLD WAR THREE! WORLD WAR THREE!"

Witnesses reported that a gaggle of lobbyists from Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics were later seen high-fiving in the back of the room. (Babylon Bee)
Is this a true story. Sounds bizarre!!
 
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Oblio

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Is this a true story. Sounds bizarre!!
No, it's not real. He's just showing that if a no-fly zone is enforced, it may as well be real because it would start a nuclear war.
I agree with him.
 
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Ruby123

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lol, it's hard to tell these days as anything is possible.
According to Amir's latest post on Telegram Zelensky says he is finally ready to negotiate with Putin, so it may finally end.
 
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Oblio

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If a no-fly zone was in place, and a Russian plane entered Ukraine airspace, NATO would shoot it down. We would then be in a shooting war with Russia, who has more nuclear weapons than America.
At first, it would be a conventional battle, but Putin has already declared his willingness to use nukes. This whole situation is insane. It appears like someone is trying to start a nuclear conflict. The potential end-result would be the death of a billion people and very possibly a nuclear winter.
 
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lol, it's hard to tell these days as anything is possible.
According to Amir's latest post on Telegram Zelensky says he is finally ready to negotiate with Putin, so it may finally end.
Let's hope so. Every politician that is for a no-fly zone should be removed from office and charged with conspiracy to commit mass murder. These people are insane.
This is a result of the U.N./W.E.F. cooperative plan to bring in a one-world government. Agenda 2030..."You will have nothing and be happy!"