Do we stress baptism enough?
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No ---it isn't ---you were leading people astray -----telling them that verse 16 said that water baptism was the case ---when it wasn't at all --it was the Baptism of the Holy Spirit -------if you knew it was Paul witnessing to his people about his conversion then you should have said that and given Acts 9 as a reference so people could see what the Baptism was about -----just saying
It is our job to speak truth ----and do our research ---
It is our job to speak truth ----and do our research ---
There’s nothing to say what your saying in scripture is the point. What you are saying strays from scripture What he’s saying is there written repeatedly
And plainly.
“And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
Acts 8:36-38 KJV
are you saying Paul was preaching something different than the rest of the apostles ? Like Peter also preaching to Gentiles who received the Holy Ghost and then got baptized in water by peters command ?
“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:44-48 KJV
Baptism for remission of sins hasn’t changed at all it’s the same before the cross and after Paul is one of many witnesses of the same gospel
And plainly.
“And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
Acts 8:36-38 KJV
are you saying Paul was preaching something different than the rest of the apostles ? Like Peter also preaching to Gentiles who received the Holy Ghost and then got baptized in water by peters command ?
“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:44-48 KJV
Baptism for remission of sins hasn’t changed at all it’s the same before the cross and after Paul is one of many witnesses of the same gospel
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Acts 9 --Paul's conversion unto Baptism ------we see here Saul who is Paul -----was in a house -----he was not at a river side ---he was in a house ---no where does it say that Saul now Paul was ever dunked in water ------he was Baptised in the Holy Spirit ---here ------
17 So Ananias left and entered the house, and he laid his hands on Saul and said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came [to Damascus], has sent me so that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit [in order to proclaim Christ to both Jews and Gentiles].”
18 Immediately something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he regained his sight. Then he got up and was baptized; 19 and he took some food and was strengthened
i say -------
John the Baptise Proves the Baptism of the Holy Spirit ----which is coming ---
What is it you people don't understand about this ------you are completely ignoring this scripture --
Matthew 3:11
AMPC
I indeed baptize you in (with) water because of repentance [that is, because of your changing your minds for the better, heartily amending your ways, with abhorrence of your past sins]. But He Who is coming after me is mightier than I, Whose sandals I am not worthy or fit to take off or carry; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.
ESV
“I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
VOICE
I ritually cleanse you through baptism as a mark of turning your life around. But someone is coming after me, someone whose sandals I am not fit to carry, someone who is more powerful than I. He will wash you not in water but in fire and with the Holy Spirit.
WYC
I wash you in water [Soothly I christen you in water], into penance; but he that shall come after me is stronger than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear; he shall baptize you [he shall baptize, or christen, you] in the Holy Ghost and [in] fire.
17 So Ananias left and entered the house, and he laid his hands on Saul and said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came [to Damascus], has sent me so that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit [in order to proclaim Christ to both Jews and Gentiles].”
18 Immediately something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he regained his sight. Then he got up and was baptized; 19 and he took some food and was strengthened
i say -------
John the Baptise Proves the Baptism of the Holy Spirit ----which is coming ---
What is it you people don't understand about this ------you are completely ignoring this scripture --
Matthew 3:11
AMPC
I indeed baptize you in (with) water because of repentance [that is, because of your changing your minds for the better, heartily amending your ways, with abhorrence of your past sins]. But He Who is coming after me is mightier than I, Whose sandals I am not worthy or fit to take off or carry; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.
ESV
“I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
VOICE
I ritually cleanse you through baptism as a mark of turning your life around. But someone is coming after me, someone whose sandals I am not fit to carry, someone who is more powerful than I. He will wash you not in water but in fire and with the Holy Spirit.
WYC
I wash you in water [Soothly I christen you in water], into penance; but he that shall come after me is stronger than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear; he shall baptize you [he shall baptize, or christen, you] in the Holy Ghost and [in] fire.
Neither in Acts 9 or Acts 22 does it say anything about being baptized in the Holy Spirit. Acts 9 quotes Ananias as saying "Brother Saul, the Lord has sent me, the One who appeared to you in the way which you were coming, so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit." But it doesn't even hint that at his baptism he was filled or baptized in the Holy Spirit either one. It's pure conjecture; you have to want it to say that, that's not what it actually says.
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Acts 22:16 references what Ananias said to Paul regarding water baptism and that is what we were discussing. Paul was water baptized and received the Holy Ghost.
Confirmation that Paul understood both were required is seen in his interaction with the Ephesus disciples recorded in Acts 19:1-6. Paul actually rebaptized the 12 in water in the name of the Lord Jesus. And afterward laid hands on them to receive the Holy Ghost. Acquiring one's spiritual rebirth requires both as witnessed over and over in the Word. This parallels exactly with what Jesus said in John 3:5, unless a man is born of water and of Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.
Acts 2:38-39 (Jewish - The group did not receive the Holy Ghost the moment they believed in Jesus. However, they were told they could expect the Holy Ghost at some point.)
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls."
Acts 8:12-17 (Samaritans-half Jewish-half Gentile)
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:43-48 (Gentiles)
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:2-6 (Disciples who did not realize they had to water baptized in Jesus name)
He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Confirmation that Paul understood both were required is seen in his interaction with the Ephesus disciples recorded in Acts 19:1-6. Paul actually rebaptized the 12 in water in the name of the Lord Jesus. And afterward laid hands on them to receive the Holy Ghost. Acquiring one's spiritual rebirth requires both as witnessed over and over in the Word. This parallels exactly with what Jesus said in John 3:5, unless a man is born of water and of Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.
Acts 2:38-39 (Jewish - The group did not receive the Holy Ghost the moment they believed in Jesus. However, they were told they could expect the Holy Ghost at some point.)
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls."
Acts 8:12-17 (Samaritans-half Jewish-half Gentile)
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:43-48 (Gentiles)
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:2-6 (Disciples who did not realize they had to water baptized in Jesus name)
He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Acts 9:17-19
17 And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18 Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.
19 So when he had received food, he was strengthened. Then Saul spent some days with the disciples at Damascus.
17 And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18 Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.
19 So when he had received food, he was strengthened. Then Saul spent some days with the disciples at Damascus.
there is nothing else -----your sins are forgiven by the Blood of Jesus and when you receive Jesus you are Baptised in the Holy Spirit ------ the Holy Spirit is likened unto water ------
4 Bible Verses about The Holy Spirit Described As Water
Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/The-Holy-Spirit-Described-As-Water
Most Relevant Verses
John 7:37-39
Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’” But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
Isaiah 44:3
Verse Concepts
‘For I will pour out water on the thirsty land
And streams on the dry ground;
I will pour out My Spirit on your offspring
And My blessing on your descendants;
John 4:14
Verse Concepts
but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life.”
1 Corinthians 12:13
Verse Concepts
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
Is the Holy Spirit associated with water?
In the Gospel of John some references to water, as in John 4:15, are traditionally identified as the Water of Life being the Holy Spirit.
Bible Verses about Water, Symbol of the Holy Spirit
- John 7:37-39
On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, "If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water." But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. - Romans 5:5
Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us. - Ephesians 5:26
that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, - Isaiah 12:3
Therefore with joy you will draw water
From the wells of salvation. - Ezekiel 36:25-27
Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.
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Consider what is recorded in Luke 24:47. Jesus said repentance and remission of sin would be preached in His name among all nations BEGINNING in Jerusalem. This occurred on the Day of Pentecost. It was at that time that Peter commanded everyone to repent, and be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus for the remission of sin... The water baptism first instituted by God, through John the Baptist, was modified to include the name of the Lord Jesus. Why? Because it was Jesus who was crucified for all of us. Paul makes this point in 1 Cor. 1:13. It is through being immersed under the waters of baptism that the spiritual reality of being buried together with Jesus into His death takes place and sin is destroyed. (Romans 6:3-6) This is but one part of the rebirth experience the other is the need to receive the Holy Ghost. Receiving the indwelling of the Holy Ghost empowers us to witness to others, and pursue and live a holy lifestyle.
Consider what is recorded in Luke 24:47. Jesus said repentance and remission of sin would be preached in His name among all nations BEGINNING in Jerusalem. This occurred on the Day of Pentecost. It was at that time that Peter commanded everyone to repent, and be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus for the remission of sin... The water baptism first instituted by God, through John the Baptist, was modified to include the name of the Lord Jesus. Why? Because it was Jesus who was crucified for all of us. Paul makes this point in 1 Cor. 1:13. It is through being immersed under the waters of baptism that the spiritual reality of being buried together with Jesus into His death takes place and sin is destroyed. (Romans 6:3-6) This is but one part of the rebirth experience the other is the need to receive the Holy Ghost. Receiving the indwelling of the Holy Ghost empowers us to witness to others, and pursue and live a holy lifestyle.
“And he asked for a writing table, and wrote, saying, His name is John. And they marvelled all. And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: For thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways; To give knowledge of salvation unto his people By the remission of their sins,
Through the tender mercy of our God; Whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us, And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, and was in the deserts till the day of his shewing unto Israel.”
Luke 1:63, 76-78, 80 KJV
“As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Which shall prepare thy way before thee. The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, Make his paths straight.
John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.”
Mark 1:2-4 KJV
“and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things.”
Luke 24:47-48 KJV
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:19-
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
…Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”
Acts 2:38-39, 41 KJV
Through the tender mercy of our God; Whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us, And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, and was in the deserts till the day of his shewing unto Israel.”
Luke 1:63, 76-78, 80 KJV
“As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Which shall prepare thy way before thee. The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, Make his paths straight.
John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.”
Mark 1:2-4 KJV
“and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things.”
Luke 24:47-48 KJV
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:19-
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
…Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”
Acts 2:38-39, 41 KJV
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We are reminded of scripture,,,,Christ said...." if you do not acknowledge my Father before mankind I will not acknowledge you before my Father".
So...does your own home fit that command?
Did you acknowledge God as a child?
Did you repent before all mankind?
Did you know what and why you were repenting.
If you did not know sin and repent of it..then you have answered your own question.
Even Billy Graham says ....in your home ....in your motel room get on your knees and repent. He was/is wrong. That is not repentance.
Studying the KJV Bible 1611 edition will give you much advice.