Why is God's Name NOT in the Bible?

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ResidentAlien

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KJV only...because it is the best ...yet...... version.

For the new age religion types...any will do .....if published since the 1960's!!...and if it tickles the ear and tells what one wants to hear. (whoa..where did I get that from?)

Folks living in glass houses should not throw rocks.
I rest my case.
 

JeffA

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I didn't realize that a discussion topic like God's Name would get under so many people's skin.
 
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Elohim is plural which proves the trinity. It also brings to light who he was talking to when he said "let us make man in our own image.
Which possibly shows a correction to the first vrs of the bible.

In the beginning Gods created the heavens and the earth......speculation 🤔🤔🤔
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True, but not more then ONE = Echad Elohim

Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish;
neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.
I and My Father are one.”
 

Dino246

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I believe it is NIV refers to ......gods.
"Elohim" has several meanings in the OT, one of which is "gods".

Instead of throwing shade at the NIV, perhaps you should study the Hebrew of Psalm 82:1 and 6, and of 1 Samuel 28:11-14.
 

Dino246

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Elohim is plural which proves the trinity. It also brings to light who he was talking to when he said "let us make man in our own image.
While that is a convenient correlation, the word "elohim" is also used of other entities. See my previous post. :)
 

Pilgrimshope

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this part

the manifest person of Jesus Christ is the name of God

how do i pronounce His being?
My opinion I’m not sure this is the answer you seek but

“And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭20:28-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we want to be those who haven’t seen and yet believe through the gospel

I hope this touches on what you asked

“but these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”
‭‭John‬ ‭20:31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“the son “ is where God the father , son and Holy Ghost are in one being , namely Jesus the Christ of Nazareth where God reveals himself completely
 
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I believe it is NIV refers to ......gods.
Reminds me of a old, old movie about a African native who found a coke bottle...thrown from a passing airplane perhaps...and considered it an evil thing to be destroyed. LOL He almost destroyed himself in the act........referring to the gods.
Saw that movie too....i think its called the gods are angry.?? Not sure
 
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I'm not sure how to respond. I didn't realize you had the "read other people's heart" gift of the spirit.

Knowing that God Almighty DOES NOT CHANGE, I read the old testament quite a lot. I did not put forth a challenge to anyone's faith or salvation. God knows that we are responsible for our own.

When you tell me that I should turn back from the path of testing scripture it raises the hair on my arms.
"Accept the salvation of Jesus Christ but don't look under any rugs".

I'm aware of my relationship with Jesus. More so than anyone else. I walk the path according to His direction.

Your message, however lovingly meant, might get a better reception behind the doors of the neighborhood.

I really don't enjoy patronization.
Bearing false witness is sin - it is a mechanism to deflect.

And i do love you and care for you and your blessing - Peace and have a great day in the LORD.
 

Dino246

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Saw that movie too....i think its called the gods are angry.?? Not sure
"The Gods Must Be Crazy".

It was filmed in South Africa and Namibia, and starred a member of the San people, who are colloquially known as "Bushmen".
 

JeffA

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Bearing false witness is sin - it is a mechanism to deflect.

And i do love you and care for you and your blessing - Peace and have a great day in the LORD.
Before throwing accusations of sinful behavior around, you need to demonstrate exactly what you mean.
Feel free to use anything I have said. If you are proven correct, I will humbly apologize.
 
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Before throwing accusations of sinful behavior around, you need to demonstrate exactly what you mean.
Feel free to use anything I have said. If you are proven correct, I will humbly apologize.
Bearing false witness- you said: "When you tell me that I should turn back from the path of testing scripture it raises the hair on my arms."
"Accept the salvation of Jesus Christ but don't look under any rugs".

I never said what you claim = false witness.

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"Also, there is an awful lot of deflection, dismissal, and outright attacks on anyone advocating for God's personal/proper name.
God's name and pronunciation was not "lost" or "forgotten". It was, however, forbidden. Still is in some cases.
Most people on this thread just throw tons of irrelevant gospel passages at me. Changing the subject to Salvation. "

You need to pray about this for it was the Love of Christ in the hearts of the many members on here for you.

The title of your thread is error.
Academically true on one word - but not ETERNAL TRUTH = for His Name has been revealed to us in His Word.
This is why, as your brother in Christ, i gave you a 'heads up' and 'be careful'.

Most Important is for your blessing = May the Peace of Christ rule in your heart today = the Name above all names, amen.
 

Pilgrimshope

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For the purpose that you don't name yourself by your job title or your ethnic identity. You are not your job or your job. A lot of names in the bible reflect the character of the bearer. When Moses asked in the name of what god should he return and speak to the Israelites, the answer was I AM, that was God telling him that He was none of those man made idols, nobody created Him, He was and is and will be the Creator of the universe.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I Am.
‭‭John‬ ‭8:58‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:”
‭‭John‬ ‭11:25‬ ‭

‬‬“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.”
‭‭John‬ ‭15:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:14‬ ‭

Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭48:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:24-25‬ ‭KJ


I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭43:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭KJV

I am is a preposition beforehand until his name was revealed it’s veiled and hidden till the apppinted time of the New Testament revelation of Jesus Christ

“but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

JeffA

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Bearing false witness- you said: "When you tell me that I should turn back from the path of testing scripture it raises the hair on my arms."
"Accept the salvation of Jesus Christ but don't look under any rugs".

I never said what you claim = false witness.

Post #167
"Also, there is an awful lot of deflection, dismissal, and outright attacks on anyone advocating for God's personal/proper name.
God's name and pronunciation was not "lost" or "forgotten". It was, however, forbidden. Still is in some cases.
Most people on this thread just throw tons of irrelevant gospel passages at me. Changing the subject to Salvation. "

You need to pray about this for it was the Love of Christ in the hearts of the many members on here for you.

The title of your thread is error.
Academically true on one word - but not ETERNAL TRUTH = for His Name has been revealed to us in His Word.
This is why, as your brother in Christ, i gave you a 'heads up' and 'be careful'.

Most Important is for your blessing = May the Peace of Christ rule in your heart today = the Name above all names, amen.
I attached your entire post. All of what you are referring to is paraphrasing and you know full well.
Gospel passages used so far are irrelevant to the topic.
It's fine if you only want to talk about the eternal truth of Jesus but this is about the removal of God's name from Scripture. The topic is not intended for you to proclaim Christ's love. I've stated over and over that it is an academic topic.

The fact that it bothers you so much gives me pause, though.
And, yes, the tone in your voice sounded quite patronizing to me.
 
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I attached your entire post. All of what you are referring to is paraphrasing and you know full well.
Gospel passages used so far are irrelevant to the topic.
It's fine if you only want to talk about the eternal truth of Jesus but this is about the removal of God's name from Scripture. The topic is not intended for you to proclaim Christ's love. I've stated over and over that it is an academic topic.

The fact that it bothers you so much gives me pause, though.
And, yes, the tone in your voice sounded quite patronizing to me.
This is exactly the dangerous path you are on = academia over the Spirit
Splitting a hair versus seeing the whole picture of God's Name woven throughout Scripture from Genesis to Revelation.

"the letter of the Law kills but the Spirit brings Life"

All those "irrelevant passages" went right over your academia........pray about it.
 

JeffA

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Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I Am.
‭‭John‬ ‭8:58‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:”
‭‭John‬ ‭11:25‬ ‭

‬‬“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.”
‭‭John‬ ‭15:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:14‬ ‭

Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭48:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:24-25‬ ‭KJ


I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭43:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭KJV

I am is a preposition beforehand until his name was revealed it’s veiled and hidden till the apppinted time of the New Testament revelation of Jesus Christ

“but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬
This is all well and good but these are all descriptors, not names,
However, the passages you are quoting from scripture (Isaiah and Malachi) have bad translations.
Both of these Prophets wrote "YHWH" where you have quoted "the Lord".
 
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Oblio

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Perhaps next time I pray, I'll say, "Hey, You!," now that I don't know His name!
I wonder if He'll know that I'm talking to Him?
 

JeffA

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This is exactly the dangerous path you are on = academia over the Spirit
Splitting a hair versus seeing the whole picture of God's Name woven throughout Scripture from Genesis to Revelation.

"the letter of the Law kills but the Spirit brings Life"

All those "irrelevant passages" went right over your academia........pray about it.
so nobody can speak strictly on an academic level any more?
This thread is not about the big picture. I'll be in the middle of the big picture singing his praise tonight and then again in the morning.
I will be preached to, as well, both tonight and tomorrow. But not here.

Don't get me wrong. I love you, as well. soften your heart a little.