Did Jesus died on Good Friday and rise Sunday, first day of the week?
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After He had risen early on the first day of the week. He first appeared to Mary Magdalene...
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After He had risen early on the first day of the week.
He first appeared to Mary...
See the way I punctuated that sentence. The way you read that verse follows the punctuation that a translator chooses. With ancient Koine Greek there was no punctuation. The translators decide on the punctuation.
There are two ways or more to punctuate that verse.
After He had risen early on the first day of the week.
He first appeared to Mary...
Brother Carry_Your_Name:
Well, in Jewish reckoning, as shown from that quote in the Jewish Encyclopedia, any part of a day is taken as a day. So the timing is irrelevant. Jesus was on the Cross on Friday, that was the first day. Saturday, the Sabbath, was the second. And the third was Sunday.
But it's a minor issue imho.
Well, in Jewish reckoning, as shown from that quote in the Jewish Encyclopedia, any part of a day is taken as a day. So the timing is irrelevant. Jesus was on the Cross on Friday, that was the first day. Saturday, the Sabbath, was the second. And the third was Sunday.
But it's a minor issue imho.
He wasn't in tomb on Wednesday. He was in it at start of thursday (night 1) the rest of thursday (day 1), at start of friday (night 2) the rest of (day 2), at start of saturday (night 3) the rest of (day 3) rising exactly when Sunday started at night. People went to grave not long after and he was already gone.
I have Mary at the tomb after the sun had risen.
Mark 16:2
And very early on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen.
It is highly unlikely that Jesus rose 12 hours before Mary arrived at the tomb.
Jesus must rise on the third day and cannot rise after three days.
Jesus died at 3pm and was buried before sunset and the sabbath was about to begin.
Jesus was buried on the day of preparation for the sabbath.
This is the simple narration found throughout the gospels.
Unfortunately for the other variations, church tradition also depicts this narration.
The case is closed.
Mark 16:2
And very early on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen.
It is highly unlikely that Jesus rose 12 hours before Mary arrived at the tomb.
Jesus must rise on the third day and cannot rise after three days.
Jesus died at 3pm and was buried before sunset and the sabbath was about to begin.
Jesus was buried on the day of preparation for the sabbath.
This is the simple narration found throughout the gospels.
Unfortunately for the other variations, church tradition also depicts this narration.
The case is closed.
Jesus rose on the third day. You persist in claiming Jesus rose after the third day. It is a simple matter to have Christ entombed before the sabbath, and risen from the tomb on the first day.
Jesus cannot be in the tomb for three days and nights.
Why do you keep claiming that Jesus did not rise on the third day?
Is the sabbath that important to you?
Jesus cannot be in the tomb for three days and nights.
Why do you keep claiming that Jesus did not rise on the third day?
Is the sabbath that important to you?
It's what Jesus said.
Mar_8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Then you twice deny the words of Christ.
Mat_12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
I have never claimed that. I believe both rising on the 3rd day AND rising after three days.
I don't keep the saturday Sabbath.
Mar_8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Then you twice deny the words of Christ.
Mat_12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
I have never claimed that. I believe both rising on the 3rd day AND rising after three days.
I don't keep the saturday Sabbath.
An inquisitor cannot be accused of transgression, by you or anyone else.
That is definitely wrong. A fourth day resurrection is a heresy.
You cannot believe in a contradiction.
We know that Jesus did not rise after three days.
I do not hold that the gospels are perfect, not by a long shot.
I will deny that Jesus rose on the fourth day.
So in the end, I just flow with the traditional narration.
The simplest possible narration will be correct.
We know that Jesus did not rise after three days.
I do not hold that the gospels are perfect, not by a long shot.
I will deny that Jesus rose on the fourth day.
So in the end, I just flow with the traditional narration.
The simplest possible narration will be correct.
It was early in the morning, as the sun was to rise, while it was still dark. Not one person witnessed the resurrection. Christ had already resurrected when the women show up at the tomb. The stone is rolled away to bear witness that Jesus had resurrected. Jesus did not need the stone rolled away to come out of the tomb. At this point, he can walk through walls.
John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
At first I was a little lost in what your saying I'm saying, but let's go back to the scriptures in Daniel 9:24-27.(Verse 24) "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon the holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy." (Verse 25) "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times: (Verse 26). "And after threescore and two weeks shall the Messiah be cut off, but for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined."
Who were the people of the prince? The Romans and they are the Gentiles, according to Genesis 10: 1-5 . After the death of Jesus, Jerusalem lasted until 70 A.D. That is when the Roman general, Titus, came in and destroyed it. Let's take a look at in Luke 19: 41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, 42 saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. 43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, 44 and shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.
Also again Jesus go into further break down in this time which is 70 A.D. concerning the Gentiles in Luke 21: 20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judæa flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
