Moses law in stone vs. Christ’s law in our hearts.

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@Jesusfollower

I asked you a direct question and you didn't answer it. I then off a double ?? and you give me a "red x"?

I wish you well. Let's not discuss this matter any longer.
 
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Sorry i put the red x in the wrong place, what i meant is for you to examine Christ words and paul's there are contradictions. they do not complement, paul does not add anything, everything is clear when Jesus speaks, however I found that paul's epistles are self contradictory.

in any posts about the law there are contradictions and disputes because of paul.

I will do my due diligence and study the scriptures to see what i might have misse or misunderstood.

I will take time to prepare a post and will start a new thread that is if i am not banned.

Blessings,

JF
 
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Jesusfollower said:
Sorry i put the red x in the wrong place, what i meant is for you to examine Christ words and paul's there are contradictions. they do not complement, paul does not add anything, everything is clear when Jesus speaks, however I found that paul's epistles are self contradictory.

in any posts about the law there are contradictions and disputes because of paul.

I will do my due diligence and study the scriptures to see what i might have misse or misunderstood.

I will take time to prepare a post and will start a new thread that is if i am not banned.

Blessings,

JF
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Wow, I was feeling optimistic about you and then I see that you've given me another "red x." I don't get it. As said, I wish you well, but it is clear to me that we won't get anywhere regarding this particular topic.
 
Blik

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Certainly, and we know for sure, that at least some elements of the Laws of Moses were completely done away with. Such as, the sacrifice of animals, for the sacrifice of Christ removed the policy of animal blood for human blood. Instead, it would be the blood of Christ that would cover us with Redemption, thus making us Right with God.
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Our problem is to know what laws are done away with and what laws are eternal laws of the Lord.

I think we can determine this by looking at the flesh in the commands given Moses. As an example, the command to be circumcised in that we deny the flesh and belong to the Lord is an eternal command, but the command to cut flesh is a fleshly command. The command to cut flesh was a wonderful help to the people of Israel, I illustrated the true law of circumcision. Now we have the holy spirit and Christ for that, we are not to use the fleshly commands any longer.
 
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Blik said:
Our problem is to know what laws are done away with and what laws are eternal laws of the Lord.

I think we can determine this by looking at the flesh in the commands given Moses. As an example, the command to be circumcised in that we deny the flesh and belong to the Lord is an eternal command, but the command to cut flesh is a fleshly command. The command to cut flesh was a wonderful help to the people of Israel, I illustrated the true law of circumcision. Now we have the holy spirit and Christ for that; we are not to use the fleshly commands any longer.
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As I read the Bible and have sought to understand this concept, it seems to me that any person who Turns and comes to Christ, if they have received His Circumcision, the removal of the Sinful Nature replaced by the Divine Nature, the Imputed Righteousness of Christ will be granted. Included with this Imputed Righteousness are the Laws of the Spirit of Life. These Laws will become known to each Elect and they [will] begin to put them into practice. For example, Love thy Neighbor, thou shalt not kill . . . these things will be obvious. Grace and mercy rather than animal sacrifice, etc. When this Veil is removed, the Laws of Christ will become more and more understandable and as said, they [will] be done in the Life of the Elect.
 
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2ndTimothyGroup said:
Wow, I was feeling optimistic about you and then I see that you've given me another "red x." I don't get it. As said, I wish you well, but it is clear to me that we won't get anywhere regarding this particular topic.
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Sorry again, I used the IPad and i have butterfingers..I removed the x..

Cheers,

JF
 
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Jesusfollower said:
Sorry again, I used the IPad and i have butterfingers..I removed the x..

Cheers,

JF
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Just so that you understand where I am coming from: I don't use negative emojis . . . AT ALL. Instead, I give thumbs up and the Winner's emoji's instead. I see no reason to give anyone a "Red X" because it draws negative attention to me. I would rather just walk away and discontinue conversation rather than make a spectacle of myself and be known as one of the many who likes to disgrace others with the "Red X." That's my take on them, but this is not the rule. The owner of the site has given them to us to use, and he obviously believes in them . . . so that is up to him. However, I do not use them as I have felt terrible in the past when I gave them, and therefore, it seems to me that if I feel terrible when I give them, I know that for others, it can feel even worse.

As you get to know me, you'll see that I defend myself with words and not negative emojis. You find that I would rather just walk away and not get into heated situations with others. This isn't to say that I won't test and perhaps even push at times, but I have no desire to be heated with anyone.
 
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Under the Law of Liberty if my Father should direct me to pick up a rock and I do not then I have missed the mark. Doing what we see our Father doing is the standard of the Law in Christ. The Law of Christ requires revelation: we are led by the Spirit. Love, in this standard, also requires revelation. Denying this principle is why the love of most is growing cold in these last days.
 
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