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Lanolin

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post your topic of whatever you are interested in here and Librarian Lanolin will recommend a book for you
It will be an actual book that's in print or one you can find in the library

fiction or non-fiction there is a book for everyone!
 

stilllearning

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What do ya have or recommend for a thorough reading on the migration histories of the Medes, Hurrians, and Kurds?
 

Lanolin

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What do ya have or recommend for a thorough reading on the migration histories of the Medes, Hurrians, and Kurds?
hmm

This one looks interesting and recent publication 2020

Forgotten peoples of the ancient world by Philip Matsyak

for kurdish people

A modern history of the Kurds by David Mcdowell (although 'modern' only means up to 2004)
or you could read a more recent published in 2014 The miracle of the Kurds: a remarkable history of hope reborn in Northern Iraq by Stephen Mansfield

I'd recommend for an easy overview even a child could read this series (which means its adults can learn too as they teach it)

The story of the world, history for the classical child. Volume 1, Ancient Times: from the earliest nomads to the last Roman Emperor by Susan Wise Bauer

Though you can read the adults version if you are digging deeper

The history of the ancient world: from the earliest accounts to the fall of Rome
 
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I’m interested in the science of epigenetic inheritance of the effects of trauma.
 

Lanolin

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I’m interested in the science of epigenetic inheritance of the effects of trauma.
looks like we only have one specific book on that

Mind-Brain-Gene :toward pyschotherapy integration by John B Arden

Its part of a Norton series on interpersonal neurobiology

however, I would also recommend Dr Caroline Leaf for the layperson
her latest is

Cleaning up your mental mess : 5 simple scientifically proven steps to reduce anxiety, stress and toxic thinking
 

Lynx

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Sounds like me with songs. I can recommend a song on almost any topic.

How about a book on dealing with the stress of taking care of a relative who has age-related dementia?
 

stilllearning

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hmm

This one looks interesting and recent publication 2020

Forgotten peoples of the ancient world by Philip Matsyak

for kurdish people

A modern history of the Kurds by David Mcdowell (although 'modern' only means up to 2004)
or you could read a more recent published in 2014 The miracle of the Kurds: a remarkable history of hope reborn in Northern Iraq by Stephen Mansfield

I'd recommend for an easy overview even a child could read this series (which means its adults can learn too as they teach it)

The story of the world, history for the classical child. Volume 1, Ancient Times: from the earliest nomads to the last Roman Emperor by Susan Wise Bauer

Though you can read the adults version if you are digging deeper

The history of the ancient world: from the earliest accounts to the fall of Rome
I reckon I should have been more specific. As we know todays modern Kurds are from the intermarriage of Medes and Hurrians. So I was looking for a book or a even perhaps a paper that contains the migration histories of all 3.

Reason being is I have always held to the notion that the Garden of Eden had to be in modern day Turkey. With two of the known rivers from Genesis having their headwaters there. The other rivers have read various accounts of where they could have been with dry waterbeds used as possible evidence.

Depending on the source you use and the math that is used to derive the answer some sources point to the geographical center of all land mass is in Turkey as the center.

We know the Ark was absent any propulsion system in that it had no oars or sails. So it would have made it a barge with a distinct purpose to float rather than to be used as a seagoing travel vessel as it would need a form of propulsion to fit that purpose.

The Ark landed on the mountains of Ararat with Ararat being a country in ancient times. Which today would be contained in modern day Armenia as well as some parts of eastern Turkey. As well as Ararat also being tied in as well with the history of the lake Van area and the civilizations that arose out of there.


So my working hypothesis has been since social studies shows that for the largest part most humans live and die within 25 miles of their birthplace. So I have speculated that when Adam and Eve went east of Eden they did not go to far from there in miles. Most of the peoples born would have also followed the social behavior of not traveling to far from their birth place.

So by the time that the flood came mankind was not to far from the original point that would have been the garden of Eden. With the ark being made to float rather than to be propelled it would have floated in such a general area before it came to rest on one of the mountains in the ancient country of Ararat.

Then the bible says as the travelled from the east they found a plain in Shinar. So have speculated that as they migrated down from Ararat they stuck to the mountains or had them always within view and walking range if water arose again they could take to the high ground. So that would have ultimately placed them in the Zagros mountains which would be east of Shinar or Mesopotamia.

With that area of course being modern day Iran which would have be comprised of Medes and Persians and what they call Aryan peoples. Which wacko racists groups have totally messed up. Since Aaryn peoples was more a culture and a shared language. So they can be found in the early histories of India, Iran, and other areas along the Caspian sea as well as over by lake Urmia.

So after Babylon is left off we have a sudden migration of peoples. So was reading a paper in a archeological publication and the DNA results directly tied the lake Urmia and Caspian sea to the origin point of the Medes and that they migrated east to form what the bible records as the kingdom of the Medes and Persians.

So following the migration of certain peoples is no problem. As Aram, and it's language would be Aramaic in ancient times so would be our modern Syria. As well as Ashur and the Assyrians. Mizraim and the Egyptians and as well as other people groups and so forth has been easy to tack their migrations from the tower of Babel.

Elam ad the Elamites is also another easy one to follow as history also records early wars between Sumerian people and the Elamites. Which Elam would as well be located in modern Iran.

So what I have been looking for is a book that might at least postulate using evidence and findings to show that the Medes did in fact migrate from the areas along the Caspian and Urmia easternly into Iran and how it would also play out with their meeting and inter marrying with the Hurrians the predecessors of todays Kurds.

So was curious if ya knew of a book that contains the migration of the Medes from the Turkish, Iraq, and Iran area as mentioned showing they migrated further east into Iran and into the areas of what would be Elam as well. As most of what I have read shows them migrating west to those areas but the paper I read and the DNA findings shows that they headed east rather than west.

So was curious if ya knew of a book that had such migration patterns of the Medes showing they had migrated east rather than west. Then if such book also contained the meeting of the Hurrians and ultimately to what we would call the Kurdish people today.

Ultimately what I am wanting to do is tie down a migration of a peoples from the tower to ancient recorded history to our modern world. Trying to see if my overall hypothesis has any merit or can discredit on my own. Hope that made sense what I am looking for?
 

Lanolin

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I reckon I should have been more specific. As we know todays modern Kurds are from the intermarriage of Medes and Hurrians. So I was looking for a book or a even perhaps a paper that contains the migration histories of all 3.

Reason being is I have always held to the notion that the Garden of Eden had to be in modern day Turkey. With two of the known rivers from Genesis having their headwaters there. The other rivers have read various accounts of where they could have been with dry waterbeds used as possible evidence.

Depending on the source you use and the math that is used to derive the answer some sources point to the geographical center of all land mass is in Turkey as the center.

We know the Ark was absent any propulsion system in that it had no oars or sails. So it would have made it a barge with a distinct purpose to float rather than to be used as a seagoing travel vessel as it would need a form of propulsion to fit that purpose.

The Ark landed on the mountains of Ararat with Ararat being a country in ancient times. Which today would be contained in modern day Armenia as well as some parts of eastern Turkey. As well as Ararat also being tied in as well with the history of the lake Van area and the civilizations that arose out of there.


So my working hypothesis has been since social studies shows that for the largest part most humans live and die within 25 miles of their birthplace. So I have speculated that when Adam and Eve went east of Eden they did not go to far from there in miles. Most of the peoples born would have also followed the social behavior of not traveling to far from their birth place.

So by the time that the flood came mankind was not to far from the original point that would have been the garden of Eden. With the ark being made to float rather than to be propelled it would have floated in such a general area before it came to rest on one of the mountains in the ancient country of Ararat.

Then the bible says as the travelled from the east they found a plain in Shinar. So have speculated that as they migrated down from Ararat they stuck to the mountains or had them always within view and walking range if water arose again they could take to the high ground. So that would have ultimately placed them in the Zagros mountains which would be east of Shinar or Mesopotamia.

With that area of course being modern day Iran which would have be comprised of Medes and Persians and what they call Aryan peoples. Which wacko racists groups have totally messed up. Since Aaryn peoples was more a culture and a shared language. So they can be found in the early histories of India, Iran, and other areas along the Caspian sea as well as over by lake Urmia.

So after Babylon is left off we have a sudden migration of peoples. So was reading a paper in a archeological publication and the DNA results directly tied the lake Urmia and Caspian sea to the origin point of the Medes and that they migrated east to form what the bible records as the kingdom of the Medes and Persians.

So following the migration of certain peoples is no problem. As Aram, and it's language would be Aramaic in ancient times so would be our modern Syria. As well as Ashur and the Assyrians. Mizraim and the Egyptians and as well as other people groups and so forth has been easy to tack their migrations from the tower of Babel.

Elam ad the Elamites is also another easy one to follow as history also records early wars between Sumerian people and the Elamites. Which Elam would as well be located in modern Iran.

So what I have been looking for is a book that might at least postulate using evidence and findings to show that the Medes did in fact migrate from the areas along the Caspian and Urmia easternly into Iran and how it would also play out with their meeting and inter marrying with the Hurrians the predecessors of todays Kurds.

So was curious if ya knew of a book that contains the migration of the Medes from the Turkish, Iraq, and Iran area as mentioned showing they migrated further east into Iran and into the areas of what would be Elam as well. As most of what I have read shows them migrating west to those areas but the paper I read and the DNA findings shows that they headed east rather than west.

So was curious if ya knew of a book that had such migration patterns of the Medes showing they had migrated east rather than west. Then if such book also contained the meeting of the Hurrians and ultimately to what we would call the Kurdish people today.

Ultimately what I am wanting to do is tie down a migration of a peoples from the tower to ancient recorded history to our modern world. Trying to see if my overall hypothesis has any merit or can discredit on my own. Hope that made sense what I am looking for?
ok you are probably looking more from a geographical or archeological point of view than a history of empires

There might be a book on it but you are probably looking more for a journal article than a book.

There might be something in National Geographic magazine, though I am not sure if I have access to their archive in my library, but could find out. They also do publish books too.
 

Lanolin

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I do know some Kurds have migrated East to New Zealand because my friend is married to a Kurdish man
 

Lanolin

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Sounds like me with songs. I can recommend a song on almost any topic.

How about a book on dealing with the stress of taking care of a relative who has age-related dementia?
Very topical Lynx I havent read one myself

But this one sounds interesting

My parents keeper: the guilt, the grief, guesswork, and undexpected gifts of caregiving by Jody Gastfriend

its part of a series of Yale Health and Wellness books

or more specifally, this one has a mindfulness program that deals with the stress

Caring for a loved one with dementia, a mindfulness based guide for reducing stress and making the best of your journey together by Marguerite Manteau-Rau
 

Lanolin

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I actually read a memoir written about by daugher who cared for and killed her mother who had dementia

Yes you read that right
Her mother had a stroke and also had diabetes and ended up in a carehome not able to do much but she still ate so she wasnt technically dying

Her daughter wanted her to die though and soon
mostly because her mother had made a 'living will' stating she didnt want to live artifically supported but the doctors and nurses took no notice and continued giving her insulin and other medicine and feeding her

But they also wouldnt restrain her (some strange reason) when she had dementia

She became like a child and her daughter could not handle it. Though she remmeberd her mother being cruel to her as a child, because it turned out her mother was an alcoholic as well. Plus shed been adopted out when she was a girl.

anyway!
I am still a bit reeling from this one its called My mother and other secrets by Wendyl Nissen

its a nz book so, you might not be able to get it outside of nz.
Has some helpful tips at the back caring for someone with dementia including an advance directive forms Basically that means a form signed by witnesses saying you dont want to be on life support for a terminal illness.

Not sure what to think on that one but intersting to read about what issues people face with caring for people with dementia, though strokes are another matter
 

Lanolin

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going over that book it seems discussions with doctors would be prudent over what kind of care someone really wants, whether it is palliative care, hospice care or medical care. To me it seems there was not many options.
 

Lanolin

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@stilllearning

another book for you recently published, may contain evidence for easterly migration because source material is iranian rather than greek

Persians: the age of the great Kings by Lloyd Llewellyn-Jones
 

Jesus_Leads

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post your topic of whatever you are interested in here and Librarian Lanolin will recommend a book for you
It will be an actual book that's in print or one you can find in the library

fiction or non-fiction there is a book for everyone!
Pencil sketching (or) shading. Find the best book out there and make sure it's not for human subject like potraits. Sceneries, birds or animals would be great. Thankyou for your help librarian lanolin.
 

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The salem witch trials - I prefer historical fiction or based on true events.

Epidemics
Eating disorders

Like I mentioned before, I prefer fictional books about such topics...I even really like YA books.
 
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jennymae

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The salem witch trials - I prefer historical fiction or based on true events.

Epidemics
Eating disorders

Like I mentioned before, I prefer fictional books about such topics...I even really like YA books.
How strange that you mentioned the Salem witch trials. I was just reading about those processes compared to the processes in Europe.
 

stilllearning

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@stilllearning

another book for you recently published, may contain evidence for easterly migration because source material is iranian rather than greek

Persians: the age of the great Kings by Lloyd Llewellyn-Jones
Thank ya maam :) Appreciate that and your other recommendations. Truly am grateful for your time and energy to do so. Thank ya so much @Lanolin :)
 

Lanolin

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Pencil sketching (or) shading. Find the best book out there and make sure it's not for human subject like potraits. Sceneries, birds or animals would be great. Thankyou for your help librarian lanolin.
How about this one, published 2019

The Field Guide to drawing and sketching animals by Tim Pond
 

Lanolin

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The salem witch trials - I prefer historical fiction or based on true events.

Epidemics
Eating disorders

Like I mentioned before, I prefer fictional books about such topics...I even really like YA books.
thats a few interestng topics Pipp
I'll see what I can find

Have you read The Crucible by Arthur Miller, its a play based on the salem witch trials. It was assigned reading for me for English in high school but I confess at the time it went a bit over my head and not a story I really warmed to, as the Puritans in the US were far removed from what we have in nz. Though I think something similar may have happened in nz with the Tohunga supression Act but not really sure what group it was that did that or why.

Then later in the US people talked about Mccarthyism saying that was a witch hunt except against communists (communist-hunt?) so maybe history just repeated itself again.
 

Pipp

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thats a few interestng topics Pipp
I'll see what I can find

Have you read The Crucible by Arthur Miller, its a play based on the salem witch trials. It was assigned reading for me for English in high school but I confess at the time it went a bit over my head and not a story I really warmed to, as the Puritans in the US were far removed from what we have in nz. Though I think something similar may have happened in nz with the Tohunga supression Act but not really sure what group it was that did that or why.

Then later in the US people talked about Mccarthyism saying that was a witch hunt except against communists (communist-hunt?) so maybe history just repeated itself again.
Ive attempted the Crucible, but it was a bit over my head.