Did Adam and Eve eat an apple?

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Nehemiah6

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Why do you think this? Any scriptural evidence?
The scriptural evidence is on the face of it. There is no such fruit tree in existence which could be identified as "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil". The problem may not even have been in the fruit itself, but in the fact that it was actually "forbidden fruit", and the act of eating produced the knowledge of good and evil. But once the damage was done, it is more than likely that this tree was totally obliterated. Therefore all we see in the Paradise of God is the tree of life, which has twelve kinds of fruit.
 

ewq1938

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The scriptural evidence is on the face of it. There is no such fruit tree in existence which could be identified as "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil".

It wasn't a literal fruit at all. You can know people according to their fruit or what kinds of things they do. Fruit in this sense is something you do. Bad fruit would be doing bad things such as sinful acts.
 

Magenta

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Can't slip anything by you :sneaky:
...the spell checker made me do it because I don't know how to put the umlaut, also known as diaeresis, on the "i." However, I've since located a 'how to" tutorial for later reference. :p
For a word like that, requiring some diacritical mark, I usually type the word into a new tabs' url, and
many pages come up with it presented correctly. Like cafe. I type it in, and voila! Out comes café :D
 

JeffA

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It's Midrash.

Mid·rash
[ˈmidˌräSH]


NOUN
an ancient commentary on part of the Hebrew scriptures, attached to the biblical text. The
earliest Midrashim come from the 2nd century A.D., although much of their content is older.


Midrash - Wikipedia
I had one once. I thought it was shingles. but nope. :)
 

John146

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The scriptural evidence is on the face of it. There is no such fruit tree in existence which could be identified as "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil". The problem may not even have been in the fruit itself, but in the fact that it was actually "forbidden fruit", and the act of eating produced the knowledge of good and evil. But once the damage was done, it is more than likely that this tree was totally obliterated. Therefore all we see in the Paradise of God is the tree of life, which has twelve kinds of fruit.
There is much scriptural evidence that the fruit was of the vine tree. Once eaten, man sinned, was corrupted and now knows good and evil. Man’s fallen condition, not the fruit itself, gave this knowledge.

I don’t have the strength right now to go through it all, but it is an interesting study. I wouldn’t bet my salvation on it, but interesting nonetheless.
 

John146

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It wasn't a literal fruit at all. You can know people according to their fruit or what kinds of things they do. Fruit in this sense is something you do. Bad fruit would be doing bad things such as sinful acts.
The context, however, is what they could and could not eat. One eats fruit…literally.
 

SomeDisciple

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It wasn't a literal fruit at all. You can know people according to their fruit or what kinds of things they do. Fruit in this sense is something you do. Bad fruit would be doing bad things such as sinful acts.
Well, it wasn't their fruit though. It was fruit from a tree. In a garden. A garden that was given a vague geographical location, but a geographical location nevertheless.

Apparently you can get banned for making the case that it's non-literal fruit (or maybe Yoke just had a bad attitude, IDK)... it's hard to understand someone if they can't make their case.
 

Magenta

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Apparently you can get banned for making the case that it's non-literal fruit (or maybe Yoke
just had a bad attitude, IDK)... it's hard to understand someone if they can't make their case.
Nah... he claimed to take the Bible literally. Like, they ate the fruit, and literally dropped dead, even.
 

SomeDisciple

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Nah... he claimed to take the Bible literally. Like, they ate the fruit, and literally dropped dead, even.
He was being disingenuous about the literalism, though. I wouldn't exactly call that a literal interpretation. More like literal non-interpretation.
 

Magenta

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The context, however, is what they could and could not eat. One eats fruit…literally.
I can accept it as being literal and metaphorical all at the same time :)
 

Lanolin

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has anyone said fig
well it might have been fig since adam and eve tried to cover themselves with fig leaves.
 

Lanolin

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Genesis 3:7

It dont take a genius to connect the fig leaves they used to this mysterious unnamed tree they were not supposed to eat the fruit of.
 

Mem

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For a word like that, requiring some diacritical mark, I usually type the word into a new tabs' url, and
many pages come up with it presented correctly. Like cafe. I type it in, and voila! Out comes café :D
au hau hau,! très bien!

I looked up "au hau hau" to see if I spelled it correctly. The translator detected German and gave me a French translation, "au hau hau hau" :oops:
 

Magenta

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au hau hau,! très bien!

I looked up "au hau hau" to see if I spelled it correctly. The translator detected German and gave me a French translation, "au hau hau hau" :oops:
Mais oui! And I totally missed out on presenting voilà properly LOL
 

Mem

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Genesis 3:7

It dont take a genius to connect the fig leaves they used to this mysterious unnamed tree they were not supposed to eat the fruit of.
I've heard of that theory. Also, that it might've been a pomegranate, which of legend is supposed that it contains 613 seeds, connecting it to the law, which is also of legend to contain so numbered but this is disputed and has not actually ever been definitively verified. And neither do I have the patience to count pomegranate seeds.
 

ewq1938

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Genesis 3:7

It dont take a genius to connect the fig leaves they used to this mysterious unnamed tree they were not supposed to eat the fruit of.

I've had figs. They don't give knowledge of good and evil, no fruit does that when eaten.
 

ewq1938

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I've heard of that theory. Also, that it might've been a pomegranate, which of legend is supposed that it contains 613 seeds, connecting it to the law, which is also of legend to contain so numbered but this is disputed and has not actually ever been definitively verified. And neither do I have the patience to count pomegranate seeds.
I read the number of seeds in a typical pomegranate can be from 200 to about 1400.
 

Mem

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I read the number of seeds in a typical pomegranate can be from 200 to about 1400.
I understand there is similar consensus on the number of laws contained in the Mosaic covenant.
 

Magenta

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I've heard of that theory. Also, that it might've been a pomegranate, which of legend is supposed that it contains 613 seeds, connecting it to the law, which is also of legend to contain so numbered but this is disputed and has not actually ever been definitively verified. And neither do I have the patience to count pomegranate seeds.
Interestingly enough:
pomegranate (n.)
c. 1300, poumgarnet (a metathesized form), "the large, roundish, many-seeded, red-
pulped fruit of the pomegranate tree," from Old French pome grenate (Modern
French grenade) and directly from Medieval Latin pomum granatum, literally
"apple with many seeds," from pome "apple; fruit" + grenate "having
grains," from Latin granata, fem. of granatus, from granum "grain" (from PIE root "grain").


The classical Latin name was mālum granatum "seeded apple" or mālum
Punicum "Punic apple." Italian formis granata, Spanish is granada. The -gra-
spelling was restored in English early 15c. Of the tree itself from late 14c. source
 

Mem

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Interestingly enough:
pomegranate (n.)
c. 1300, poumgarnet (a metathesized form), "the large, roundish, many-seeded, red-
pulped fruit of the pomegranate tree," from Old French pome grenate (Modern
French grenade) and directly from Medieval Latin pomum granatum, literally
"apple with many seeds," from pome "apple; fruit" + grenate "having
grains," from Latin granata, fem. of granatus, from granum "grain" (from PIE root "grain").


The classical Latin name was mālum granatum "seeded apple" or mālum
Punicum "Punic apple." Italian formis granata, Spanish is granada. The -gra-
spelling was restored in English early 15c. Of the tree itself from late 14c. source
Interesting, indeed! hmm?