Did Adam and Eve eat an apple?

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mustaphadrink

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Was it the apple that Adam and Eve ate that caused the fall of man or something else?
Well, to get to the core of the matter, I think that it was referred to as fruit and was not specifically named.
 

kenallen

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Did you see Post #212
You have a perverted mind. What do you thank about the 10 virgins. Is Jesus coming of multiple wives. Read the word with understanding, get yourself a good Strong's and be like the Bereans don't just take the word of some man but find out if what they say is true or not. Here comes a little more "sexual inuendo"
But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
8For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.
9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
I want you to know I am not frustrated or upset with you. I just wish you would look into the word ask our Father to open your eyes and if you disagree show me why and where. I thank I have pointed out that something else happened in the garden than eating fruit. The fruit came from a tree that was special only to the garden of Eaden just as the tree of life was is and will be very special.
 

BroTan

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"Satan got kick out of heaven before Adam was created".... and: "Satan been on earth with all his angels since this
time, he was here on earth in the days of Adam, most likely before Adam was created," are both assumptions.

The war in heaven could have happened after Adam's creation. Some believe it did. They believe this and say, Satan and the angels were jealous of mankind, that humanity was being offered salvation, which is not something angels have. Which is just more assumptions.

According the scriptures Satan was in the Garden of Eden. Satan had already got kick out of heaven. The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: (Ezekiel 28:1-3)

This is not an ordinary man, notice the clue. Thou are wiser than Daniel? The prince of Tyrus is a Gentile, how can he be wiser than Daniel when it comes to the word of God. Israel possesses the oracles/word of God. Remember that Satan is the god of the Gentiles that have not came under the commonwealth of Israel. This man is Satan; Satan is wiser than Daniel take a look.

Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.( Ezekiel 28: 12-13)

Do you recall the king of Tyrus in the Garden of Eden? I do recall the serpent which is called the devil and also Satan. Let's see who this really is.

Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. (Ezekiel 28:14-15)

Now we see this is not a man, but a cherub angel. In some cases the Lord calls angels men. But notice something; this cherub which is Satan had some authority. He actually was on the mountain of God, until he sinned. We should pay close attention to that. What happened when Satan sinned against God?

Take a look.

By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground; I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. (Ezekiel 28:16)

What happened when he got full of himself? He was thrown out. When the Lord blesses us with knowledge, wisdom and also understanding be careful not to get full of yourself and forget whose blessings it is and were it came from. It is the Lord's, not our own.
 

kenallen

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"Satan got kick out of heaven before Adam was created".... and: "Satan been on earth with all his angels since this
time, he was here on earth in the days of Adam, most likely before Adam was created," are both assumptions.

The war in heaven could have happened after Adam's creation. Some believe it did. They believe this and say, Satan and the angels were jealous of mankind, that humanity was being offered salvation, which is not something angels have. Which is just more assumptions.
You are right on that Magenta
 

Magenta

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According the scriptures Satan was in the Garden of Eden. Satan had already got kick out of heaven. The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: (Ezekiel 28:1-3)

This is not an ordinary man, notice the clue. Thou are wiser than Daniel? The prince of Tyrus is a Gentile, how can he be wiser than Daniel when it comes to the word of God. Israel possesses the oracles/word of God. Remember that Satan is the god of the Gentiles that have not came under the commonwealth of Israel. This man is Satan; Satan is wiser than Daniel take a look.

Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.( Ezekiel 28: 12-13)

Do you recall the king of Tyrus in the Garden of Eden? I do recall the serpent which is called the devil and also Satan. Let's see who this really is.

Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. (Ezekiel 28:14-15)

Now we see this is not a man, but a cherub angel. In some cases the Lord calls angels men. But notice something; this cherub which is Satan had some authority. He actually was on the mountain of God, until he sinned. We should pay close attention to that. What happened when Satan sinned against God?

Take a look.

By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground; I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. (Ezekiel 28:16)

What happened when he got full of himself? He was thrown out. When the Lord blesses us with knowledge, wisdom and also understanding be careful not to get full of yourself and forget whose blessings it is and were it came from. It is the Lord's, not our own.
Saying Satan got kicked out of heaven before Adam was created is an assumption. You have said
a whole lot but not admitted to that fact. Perhaps you should take heed of what you have written.
 
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You have a perverted mind. What do you thank about the 10 virgins. Is Jesus coming of multiple wives. Read the word with understanding, get yourself a good Strong's and be like the Bereans don't just take the word of some man but find out if what they say is true or not. Here comes a little more "sexual inuendo"
But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
8For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.
9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
I want you to know I am not frustrated or upset with you. I just wish you would look into the word ask our Father to open your eyes and if you disagree show me why and where. I thank I have pointed out that something else happened in the garden than eating fruit. The fruit came from a tree that was special only to the garden of Eaden just as the tree of life was is and will be very special.
i see that you read Post #212 as if i meant it to be literal.
No perversion was in that Post, by the way, so maybe your mind is going down the wrong road.

Did you not say on here that you believe the Serpent impregnated Eve which produced Cain?
 

BroTan

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Saying Satan got kicked out of heaven before Adam was created is an assumption. You have said
a whole lot but not admitted to that fact. Perhaps you should take heed of what you have written.
If you believe that's an assumption that's ok, because at the end of the day the Lord gives the increase in knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. Just like it's written in Proverbs 4: 7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom:
And with all thy getting get understanding. peace in Jesus name