Yes, i understand this principal of eternity not subject as we are in this realm.
That HE was actually Slain before HE came to earth is not given any credence from Scripture (that i know of).
Furthermore when the LORD speaks a Truth, HE then establishes that Truth for us in the mouth of Two or Three Witnesses.
There is no other Witness in Scripture that Testifies to Christ/Lamb of God suffering TWICE.
There is Testimony Witnesses that Elohim can and does Speak of Things BEFORE They come into Existence as if They already Exist.
#1 Witness: as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed—
God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did;
#2 Witness: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
#3 witness: "slain from the foundation of the world" Rev 13:8 i see this as it is, untouched. Where 'foundation of the world' speaks of Creation and not from Eternity Past. When Elohim set in Order His Will from the Beginning.
This Witness is in Genesis chapter 3. Genesis is the 'foundation of the world' and of all Truth that follows = Comes Forth from
i can speak more on this but not now.
This i know of you, you are able to examine Scripture with/by Scripture. Not all are able or willing to do this.
So please let me know, only from Scripture, where there is another Witness that would speak of a Spiritual Slain Lamb BEFORE HE came to earth = from Scripture only.
My heart rejoices in Truth for i am a truth-seeker of and by the Word. Therefore i look to see that i may SEE and for that Blessing i will always bow my knee.
That HE was actually Slain before HE came to earth is not given any credence from Scripture (that i know of).
Furthermore when the LORD speaks a Truth, HE then establishes that Truth for us in the mouth of Two or Three Witnesses.
There is no other Witness in Scripture that Testifies to Christ/Lamb of God suffering TWICE.
There is Testimony Witnesses that Elohim can and does Speak of Things BEFORE They come into Existence as if They already Exist.
#1 Witness: as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed—
God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did;
#2 Witness: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
#3 witness: "slain from the foundation of the world" Rev 13:8 i see this as it is, untouched. Where 'foundation of the world' speaks of Creation and not from Eternity Past. When Elohim set in Order His Will from the Beginning.
This Witness is in Genesis chapter 3. Genesis is the 'foundation of the world' and of all Truth that follows = Comes Forth from
i can speak more on this but not now.
This i know of you, you are able to examine Scripture with/by Scripture. Not all are able or willing to do this.
So please let me know, only from Scripture, where there is another Witness that would speak of a Spiritual Slain Lamb BEFORE HE came to earth = from Scripture only.
My heart rejoices in Truth for i am a truth-seeker of and by the Word. Therefore i look to see that i may SEE and for that Blessing i will always bow my knee.
I hear you my friend. We are a bit addicted to needing the scriptures to say "Thus sayith the Lord...". But the mature can dig into the scriptures see the patterns and understand the mind of the Father.
The other witness is that Jesus was able to forgive sins before He died on the cross. He could NOT do this just because He was God the Son. He could only do this because the price had already been paid for the sins to be forgiven. This caused quite a stir, if you recall, from the Jews. But Jesus was functioning out of a higher order of priesthood than that of Levi.
Jesus was administering the pre-existing covenant between God and the Son: prophesied in the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New in front of God, the angels, and man. It's not enough to BE righteous. You must also appear righteous. When He died on the cross the reality of the eternal came into time and space and now functioned for the benefit of all who would believe.
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