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Does anyone know the history of the book referred to today as the Holy Bible?
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Everything that we need to know to stay busy preaching the Gospel and planting churches is contained in the scriptures that were given to us. We don't need to be focused on any new mission. Maybe that is why. He wants us to focus on obeying what He has already told us to do before we will get a new assignment which will come when we graduate.
Those who look for a new revelation are those who have not understood the current one.
Those who look for a new revelation are those who have not understood the current one.
Paul's method of evangelism. He would go to a large community preach, get converts, teach them to meet weekly or even daily and they became the church in that location. They then could continue to reach out to the people around them. Paul would go to another community and do it again. He addressed them as the church in that location in his letters. So did Jesus.
It's a biblical concept. Revelation 1-3. A local church is viewed by Jesus as the church in that location. Jesus himself called them churches. The seven churches. The angels of the seven churches. Paul talks about "the church at location" and many other references to churches.
We should continue this method of evangelism because it works. Find a community (the bigger the better, because it is about winning as many souls as possible) that needs a church and start having some kind of meetings, whether it is a home fellowship, or a storefront, or a hotel ballroom, school auditorium, or many other ideas and start a local fellowship that can continue reaching the community with the Gospel. Then go to the next community that does not have a soul winning church and start another one. Keep doing it until Jesus comes back again.
Yes they are all one church. But they are also individual local churches and that is a biblical description. I did not make it up.
It's a biblical concept. Revelation 1-3. A local church is viewed by Jesus as the church in that location. Jesus himself called them churches. The seven churches. The angels of the seven churches. Paul talks about "the church at location" and many other references to churches.
We should continue this method of evangelism because it works. Find a community (the bigger the better, because it is about winning as many souls as possible) that needs a church and start having some kind of meetings, whether it is a home fellowship, or a storefront, or a hotel ballroom, school auditorium, or many other ideas and start a local fellowship that can continue reaching the community with the Gospel. Then go to the next community that does not have a soul winning church and start another one. Keep doing it until Jesus comes back again.
Yes they are all one church. But they are also individual local churches and that is a biblical description. I did not make it up.
John brought the Bible to a close with Reverlation -- the final book of the Bible c 96 AD. The writings of the Apostolic Fathers confirm that there were no more apostles and prophets after that, and no more canonical books. The Muratori Canon from the 2nd century confirms almost the entire list of books in our Bibles. The Syrian Peshitta from around that time is further proof of a complete Bible.
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There are many references in the NT to calling local churches, "churches"
The churches in the province of Asia send you greetings. Aquila and Priscilla greet you warmly in the Lord, and so does the church that meets at their house.
... For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God's churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from ...
.. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice- nor do the churches of God.
Now about the collection for the Lord's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do.
So the churches were strengthened in the faith and grew daily in numbers.
The churches in the province of Asia send you greetings. Aquila and Priscilla greet you warmly in the Lord, and so does the church that meets at their house.
... For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God's churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from ...
.. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice- nor do the churches of God.
Now about the collection for the Lord's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do.
So the churches were strengthened in the faith and grew daily in numbers.
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Church The word translated "church" in the English Bible is ekklesia. This word is the Greek words kaleo (to call), with the prefix ek (out). Thus, the word means "the called out ones." However, the English word "church" does not come from ekklesia but from the word kuriakon, which means "dedicated to the Lord."
What did jesus really say?
What did jesus really say?
Yet this question still remains. Did God ask anyone to compile a collection of scrolls in the first place? If He did, did He tell them they were the ONLY ones that constitute the complete and divinely inspired words of His and that He considers authoritative in matters of faith and practice? Because what I recall is that Jesus said, John 16:12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you."
It doesn't seem to say... However, when it, the Holly Bible, has come, it will guide you into all truth; for it will speak on it's own authority, so whatever it says is final, complete and closed no more to say!
It doesn't seem to say... However, when it, the Holly Bible, has come, it will guide you into all truth; for it will speak on it's own authority, so whatever it says is final, complete and closed no more to say!
i See what you’re saying now.
Yes The Bible was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit and other men usually in church positions decided what to include in it.
In Ethiopia for example they have 81 cannons. Ethiopians are east orthodox by the way, not catholic.
If you want to update the Bible now it would require a major consensus or you can be like Ethiopia and run your own thing.
Yes The Bible was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit and other men usually in church positions decided what to include in it.
In Ethiopia for example they have 81 cannons. Ethiopians are east orthodox by the way, not catholic.
If you want to update the Bible now it would require a major consensus or you can be like Ethiopia and run your own thing.
There are revelations in the bible that will be revealed if you do what the Lord has told you. If we don't do the last thing that the Lord has told us we will expereince "dry spells" in our illumination and understanding. A stunted growth will occur. We can also have darkness instead of light because we are infected by the leaven of hypocrisy and bad teaching motivated by fear of man and dishonest heart will not produce the fruit we long for. (parable of the sower is about how to have revelation in the Word of God and it is directly associate with the condition of the heart)
The key to illumination and understanding and revelation in the word of God is to do what the Lord has already told you.
If we do, we will experience a brand new book. Illumination will pour forth and the heavens will open.
Yes you are right it has everything to do with relationship, and obedience IS relationship.
When Jesus natural relations were outside trying to get in and someone told him "your mother and brothers want to see you" He said, Those that DO THE Will of my Father are my mothers and brothers, and in another place when they said that his mother who bore him was blessed, He said, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” . And this is the key to Revelation and illumination and RELATIONSHIP with Christ.
Examine yourself and ask.. "What is the last thing that I know that the Lord was telling me to do? Have I done that? Am I doing that?" If there is any doubt about it, rush to deal with it in such a way that by next week you can say "i know now that I am doing that" and then see if you don't suddenly have revelation in the Word like never before. And if this happens for you NEVER forget this lesson. It will help you for the rest of your journey.
The key to illumination and understanding and revelation in the word of God is to do what the Lord has already told you.
If we do, we will experience a brand new book. Illumination will pour forth and the heavens will open.
Yes you are right it has everything to do with relationship, and obedience IS relationship.
When Jesus natural relations were outside trying to get in and someone told him "your mother and brothers want to see you" He said, Those that DO THE Will of my Father are my mothers and brothers, and in another place when they said that his mother who bore him was blessed, He said, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” . And this is the key to Revelation and illumination and RELATIONSHIP with Christ.
Examine yourself and ask.. "What is the last thing that I know that the Lord was telling me to do? Have I done that? Am I doing that?" If there is any doubt about it, rush to deal with it in such a way that by next week you can say "i know now that I am doing that" and then see if you don't suddenly have revelation in the Word like never before. And if this happens for you NEVER forget this lesson. It will help you for the rest of your journey.
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A really good book on this subject is "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" I had it, loaned to a family member and they lost it.
Another good set of books to read is by Lee Strobel, he was an atheist and his wife became a Christian. He wanted to prove to her that she was being foolish to be a believer. In his search he became a Christian and a minister. His books are an easy read and answer many questions, some you have asked. He even has one he did on science. If you like to read, these books are a great read together and really make you think and search for truth. I really need to read them again. Not sure if they would be in a library or not. I hope you find one and if you read it, let me know what you think. -
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A really good book on this subject is "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" I had it, loaned to a family member and they lost it. Another good set of books to read is by Lee Strobel, he was an atheist and his wife became a Christian. He wanted to prove to her that she was being foolish to be a believer. In his search he became a Christian and a minister. His books are an easy read and answer many questions, some you have asked. He even has one he did on science. If you like to read, these books are a great read together and really make you think and search for truth. I really need to read them again. Not sure if they would be in a library or not. I hope you find one and if you read it, let me know what you think.
Another good set of books to read is by Lee Strobel, he was an atheist and his wife became a Christian. He wanted to prove to her that she was being foolish to be a believer. In his search he became a Christian and a minister. His books are an easy read and answer many questions, some you have asked. He even has one he did on science. If you like to read, these books are a great read together and really make you think and search for truth. I really need to read them again. Not sure if they would be in a library or not. I hope you find one and if you read it, let me know what you think.
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Paul's method of evangelism. He would go to a large community preach, get converts, teach them to meet weekly or even daily and they became the church in that location. They then could continue to reach out to the people around them. Paul would go to another community and do it again. He addressed them as the church in that location in his letters. So did Jesus.
It's a biblical concept. Revelation 1-3. A local church is viewed by Jesus as the church in that location. Jesus himself called them churches. The seven churches. The angels of the seven churches. Paul talks about "the church at location" and many other references to churches.
We should continue this method of evangelism because it works. Find a community (the bigger the better, because it is about winning as many souls as possible) that needs a church and start having some kind of meetings, whether it is a home fellowship, or a storefront, or a hotel ballroom, school auditorium, or many other ideas and start a local fellowship that can continue reaching the community with the Gospel. Then go to the next community that does not have a soul winning church and start another one. Keep doing it until Jesus comes back again.
Yes they are all one church. But they are also individual local churches and that is a biblical description. I did not make it up.
It's a biblical concept. Revelation 1-3. A local church is viewed by Jesus as the church in that location. Jesus himself called them churches. The seven churches. The angels of the seven churches. Paul talks about "the church at location" and many other references to churches.
We should continue this method of evangelism because it works. Find a community (the bigger the better, because it is about winning as many souls as possible) that needs a church and start having some kind of meetings, whether it is a home fellowship, or a storefront, or a hotel ballroom, school auditorium, or many other ideas and start a local fellowship that can continue reaching the community with the Gospel. Then go to the next community that does not have a soul winning church and start another one. Keep doing it until Jesus comes back again.
Yes they are all one church. But they are also individual local churches and that is a biblical description. I did not make it up.
Hogwash, what you post is your opinion and not Scriptural at all.
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Jesus only founded one Church. And He promised to send the Holy Spirit to His Church, that Jesus would be with His Church til the end of time, and that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. So, find that Church. Hint, it wasn't the Pentacostal church, the Baptist church, the Methodist, the Anglican church, the Lutheran church etc............ad nauseum. Those all have human founders. Jesus only founded one Church, His Church, try and find it.
Paul's method of evangelism. He would go to a large community preach, get converts, teach them to meet weekly or even daily and they became the church in that location. They then could continue to reach out to the people around them. Paul would go to another community and do it again. He addressed them as the church in that location in his letters. So did Jesus.
It's a biblical concept. Revelation 1-3. A local church is viewed by Jesus as the church in that location. Jesus himself called them churches. The seven churches. The angels of the seven churches. Paul talks about "the church at location" and many other references to churches.
We should continue this method of evangelism because it works. Find a community (the bigger the better, because it is about winning as many souls as possible) that needs a church and start having some kind of meetings, whether it is a home fellowship, or a storefront, or a hotel ballroom, school auditorium, or many other ideas and start a local fellowship that can continue reaching the community with the Gospel. Then go to the next community that does not have a soul winning church and start another one. Keep doing it until Jesus comes back again.
Yes they are all one church. But they are also individual local churches and that is a biblical description. I did not make it up.
It's a biblical concept. Revelation 1-3. A local church is viewed by Jesus as the church in that location. Jesus himself called them churches. The seven churches. The angels of the seven churches. Paul talks about "the church at location" and many other references to churches.
We should continue this method of evangelism because it works. Find a community (the bigger the better, because it is about winning as many souls as possible) that needs a church and start having some kind of meetings, whether it is a home fellowship, or a storefront, or a hotel ballroom, school auditorium, or many other ideas and start a local fellowship that can continue reaching the community with the Gospel. Then go to the next community that does not have a soul winning church and start another one. Keep doing it until Jesus comes back again.
Yes they are all one church. But they are also individual local churches and that is a biblical description. I did not make it up.
Local churches are churches that are locale to a community with a gathering of believers under one body, one head.
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Hebrews is definitely written by the Apostle Paul.
Paul is the apostle who always goes deep into the Blood of Jesus, as His Gospel of the Grace of God.
He's very literal when talking about how this BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD of CHRIST: is the Gift of God that is the Blood Atonement.
No other Apostle is so literal and so vivid when they talk about Salvation being about the BLOOD of God who hung on The Cross.
So, when you get into Hebrews, especially from chapters 6-12, there is a lot of pure Pauline Theology in there, that is always the way he describes this beautiful Blood Atonement that is the Grace of God.
But there is even more to prove that Paul wrote Hebrews..
If you read Chapter 10, where Paul is having a real difficult situation with some Christ rejecting Hebrews, who are told they are "trodding underfoot the blood of Jesus"....and crucifying Him afresh with their UNBELIEF""... (there is that Blood again)....... and then you go to Acts 28. and read the last 10 verses......
You'll discover that Paul is again dealing with Christ rejecting Hebrews, exactly as he dealt with them in Hebrews Chapter 10, but this time, he tells them....'im done.... you wont listen, and i'll go now to the GENTILES".
And who is the Gentile Apostle?
Thats Paul. The same one who is talking to Christ rejecting Hebrews in Chapter 10.......and again in Acts 28
Paul is the apostle who always goes deep into the Blood of Jesus, as His Gospel of the Grace of God.
He's very literal when talking about how this BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD of CHRIST: is the Gift of God that is the Blood Atonement.
No other Apostle is so literal and so vivid when they talk about Salvation being about the BLOOD of God who hung on The Cross.
So, when you get into Hebrews, especially from chapters 6-12, there is a lot of pure Pauline Theology in there, that is always the way he describes this beautiful Blood Atonement that is the Grace of God.
But there is even more to prove that Paul wrote Hebrews..
If you read Chapter 10, where Paul is having a real difficult situation with some Christ rejecting Hebrews, who are told they are "trodding underfoot the blood of Jesus"....and crucifying Him afresh with their UNBELIEF""... (there is that Blood again)....... and then you go to Acts 28. and read the last 10 verses......
You'll discover that Paul is again dealing with Christ rejecting Hebrews, exactly as he dealt with them in Hebrews Chapter 10, but this time, he tells them....'im done.... you wont listen, and i'll go now to the GENTILES".
And who is the Gentile Apostle?
Thats Paul. The same one who is talking to Christ rejecting Hebrews in Chapter 10.......and again in Acts 28
Hebrews 10:25 ESV
Not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.
1 Corinthians 1:2 ESV
To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:
Romans 12:4-5 ESV
For as in one body we have many members, and the members do not all have the same function, so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.
Acts 14:23
When they had appointed elders for them in every church, having prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord in whom they had believed.
James 5:14
Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;
1 Corinthians 11:18
For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that divisions exist among you; and in part I believe it.
Not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.
1 Corinthians 1:2 ESV
To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:
Romans 12:4-5 ESV
For as in one body we have many members, and the members do not all have the same function, so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.
Acts 14:23
When they had appointed elders for them in every church, having prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord in whom they had believed.
James 5:14
Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;
1 Corinthians 11:18
For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that divisions exist among you; and in part I believe it.
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