Were Nephilim (Gen 6) judged differently by God?

[iamsoandso]

The text is about how God Has and Can show judgment before the final judgment.

2 Peter 2
4For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.

2 Peter 3
4They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

Jude
5Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

As you can clearly see by a careful reading both Peter and Jude are correcting the false idea that God will not judge. Or that everything has continued unabated since the beginning of creation with no judgment from God interfering like the Godly keep saying is coming. Both Peter and Jude correct this wrong idea by reminding them of how God has intervened on several occasions.

Each is an example of God's judgment. There is nothing here about angels messing up genomes and no one could get that from the text without forcing an interpretation that Peter and Jude are not talking about.

Peter and Jude are focused on examples of how God had judged already... before the end time judgment.

To think that there will be no judgment until the end of the world is bad theology.

Remember the flood? Peter is saying. He is not talking about angels having sex. He is saying that God judged already, so why are they saying that things have continued the same? No they haven't. Remember the Flood?

Remember that the angels that fell with satan are currently bound in chains of darkness? Judgment.

Then he says in a Similar way Sodom was judged. Similar as in another example of God judging and intervening like these other examples.

Not, that Sodom's sin was similar in details to the angels. But that Sodom is a similar example of God intervening with Judgment and that things don't always "continue unabated from creation" like what these false teachers suggested.

If you stick to the intended message of the authors it is about how God has judged in the past. That is what they were addressing. This was an argument to combat a wrong idea. Their opponents did not say anything about angels having sex with women. Their opponents were saying "Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”

They remind them of the previous judgment examples to prove that God has intervened before. They did not bring up angels having sex with women and anyone who tries to insert that into the text is NOT Understanding, but I will not say they are "hardened" it is probably a simple matter of having made a mistake in careful exegesis of the text.

Trying to help here. Don't get angry if I am correct.

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Revelation 12:9 although the Serpent,Satan,,the Devil,,, though he is the same as the one mentioned in the Garden, he is not numbered with those who are "bound in chains" until the day of judgment right? If not and he has already been intervened upon as those you mention how then does he still exist unchained after the flood in Job?

 

[Magenta]

sometimes we think we know but it’s just what we think

Indeed.

 

[DavidTree]

We are probably miscommunicating about the term.

I could have said, "those who are expert in the original languages and manuscripts in extant, and who are born again and believe that the bible is inspired, and who have spent a great deal of their lives studying and discussing all the details of a particular book of the bible and written commentaries that have a good reputation among their peers who know as much as they do on the subject" But that takes too long; so I say Biblical Scholar.

I would love to live long enough to be one. I don't think that is probably what will happen but I do think it is a valuable contribution to the body of Christ.

You said: "I don't think that is probably what will happen but I do think it is a valuable contribution to the body of Christ."

Get rid of this thought as it is not from God.

The Holy Spirit is not a respecter of persons and HE is fully able to unlock the Scriptures to anyone.
Study of the original text/language is not required.

Go back to my statement - 'Bible Scholars??? Giants of confusion'

Keep this in mind and heart - the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, HE only guides us into Truth.
The Scripture is Coded by Him and is unlocked by Him thru Child like Faith and Obedience to = "It is written."

Few christians follow the Eternal Law of Truth: Deuteronomy 4:1-2 , Proverbs 30:5-6 , Revelation 22: 18-19

 

[DavidTree]

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Revelation 12:9 although the Serpent,Satan,,the Devil,,, though he is the same as the one mentioned in the Garden, he is not numbered with those who are "bound in chains" until the day of judgment right? If not and he has already been intervened upon as those you mention how then does he still exist unchained after the flood in Job?

Satan was not part of the delegation of fallen angels who came to earth and "took the daughters of men."

Satan is the Cherubim, the Ark Angel, the DRAGON whose tail drew a third of the stars = the fallen angels obey him.

Only a few fallen angels (compared to the vast number of them) came to earth to corrupt the human bloodline.

 

[PennEd]

Bullet points that should definitively prove the "sons of God" are angelic beings:

1. The term sons of God, Bene Elohim, is ONLY found in Genesis 6, and the Book of Job. The Job references make clear this term refers to Angels. Here's one of the mentions in Job.

Job 38:7
New International Version
while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?
Read full chapter
Footnotes
a. Job 38:7 Hebrew the sons of God

2. Seth was not a "son of God". He was born in Adam's fallen image and likeness.

Genesis 5:3
New King James Version
And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.

NO ONE post Adam's fall is a son of God until they are born again from above. A direct creation of God. Or if you like, Jesus KNEW you.
OT saints were held in the good part (Abraham's Bosom) of Sheol/Hades until Jesus' victory at the cross.

3. Both Peter and Jude tell us that these fallen angels are being held in "prison" (Tartarus), for their sin.
Jude goes so far as to tell us the sin committed is of a sexual nature.

Jude 6-7
King James Version
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

4. One of the main points used to say the sons of God aren't angels is this verse.

Matthew 22:30
New King James Version
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels [a]of God in heaven.

This passage actually HELPS make the case for sons of God being angels. Note the last two words Jesus said here:
IN HEAVEN.
If we go back to Jude verse 6, we can see that they left, or "took off" their Heavenly bodies (Habitation). Greek Word oikétérion
The word rendered "habitation" is used only one other time in Scripture. There it is referring to the Heavenly body WE will receive:

2 Corinthians 5
New King James Version
Assurance of the Resurrection
5 For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation (oikétérion) which is from heaven,

Angels are recorded to have taken human form in Scripture. The starkest example is during their visit to Abraham, where they physically ate, and subsequently were sexually desirable to Sodom's men. The Bible also says that some of us may have entertained Angels and not have been aware they were Angels.


There is so much more, but on these points alone, without even going into the Nephilim, I don't see how the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 can be ANYTHING other than some type of angelic beings.

 

[walknlight]

The Author separates and denotes 'sons of God' as distinct from 'daughters of men'

God's Word is written for children.

Get this,
By the analogy of some, From Genesis 1-6, men didn't realize women were beautiful ..........until Gen 6..??!!..

God Bless!

 

[DavidTree]

Yes even children know to look to see if the sons of God and daughters of men were mentioned before this statement and they are in Chapter 4. Chapter 4 is not going to go away. I have made a better case using context with Chapter 4 than the Jewish/Greek Myth so I will let it go for now.

Please post it.

 

[DavidTree]

Get this,
By the analogy of some, From Genesis 1-6, men didn't realize women were beautiful ..........until Gen 6..??!!..

God Bless!

This was GREAT and i good laugh from it - Thank You

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Indeed.

yes I was just saying that from personal
Experience having been wrong a lot but thinking I was right beforehand, now days I just know the Bible is right and I still have learning to do and believe that’s true of all of us

 

[Shepherd]

Genesis 4
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

If you look in the Book of Luke chapter 3 starting with verse 23, it gives the genealogy of Christ all the way back to Adam, and the last verse(38) says that Adam was "the son of God". The only way that a person can become a "son of God" is by calling upon the name of the Lord in faith. The Bible even says that no angel can be a "son of God" (Hebrews 1:5). A "son" must be "fathered" or "gendered" if you will. Human beings can only be so "gendered" or "born of God" by faith. Anyway, all of the men mentioned in Genesis 5 are in that genealogy of Christ mentioned in Luke 3:23-38. These men were believers who had begun "calling upon the name of the Lord" back in Genesis 4. They are the "sons of God" in Genesis 6.

 

[PennEd]

was

Was directly created as a son of God. BEFORE the fall. After the fall EVERYONE conceived by men has sin imputed to them through Adam.
This is THE reason Jesus had to come in the first place.

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

There is great disagreement amongst scholars over what this passage means. Many say this is a NEGATIVE thing that they did. If it was a positive, then many more would have been saved in the Flood.

That's why Jesus had to come from the seed of the woman (virgin conception), as stated in Gen 3. All sin is imputed to Adam, NOT Eve.

Brief text from Got Questions:
Adam, as the head of the human race, caused every person after him to be born into a fallen condition or sinful state. This effect of Adam’s sin is known as original sin and is often referred to as inherited sin. All human beings have inherited a sinful nature through Adam’s original act of disobedience (Romans 5:12–14).

In addition to receiving a fallen nature, all people who came after Adam have been credited with the guilt of Adam’s sin (Romans 5:18). That is the meaning of imputed sin. An imputation is an attribution or a crediting of something. Imputed sin is Adam’s guilt attributed to or credited to us. All humans are counted as having sinned in Adam and thus deserving the same punishment for sin as Adam. Imputed sin affects our standing before God (we are guilty, condemned), whereas original sin affects our character (we are morally ruined). Both original and imputed sin make us subject to God’s judgment.

 

[Shepherd]

Was directly created as a son of God. BEFORE the fall. After the fall EVERYONE conceived by men has sin imputed to them through Adam.
This is THE reason Jesus had to come in the first place.

There is great disagreement amongst scholars over what this passage means. Many say this is a NEGATIVE thing that they did. If it was a positive, then many more would have been saved in the Flood.

That's why Jesus had to come from the seed of the woman (virgin conception), as stated in Gen 3. All sin is imputed to Adam, NOT Eve.

Brief text from Got Questions:
Adam, as the head of the human race, caused every person after him to be born into a fallen condition or sinful state. This effect of Adam’s sin is known as original sin and is often referred to as inherited sin. All human beings have inherited a sinful nature through Adam’s original act of disobedience (Romans 5:12–14).

In addition to receiving a fallen nature, all people who came after Adam have been credited with the guilt of Adam’s sin (Romans 5:18). That is the meaning of imputed sin. An imputation is an attribution or a crediting of something. Imputed sin is Adam’s guilt attributed to or credited to us. All humans are counted as having sinned in Adam and thus deserving the same punishment for sin as Adam. Imputed sin affects our standing before God (we are guilty, condemned), whereas original sin affects our character (we are morally ruined). Both original and imputed sin make us subject to God’s judgment.

Adam was a "son of God" because he was a believer. One must be "begotten" to be a "son". Jesus Christ was "begotten" of the Father and believers are "begotten" by faith. You mention that Adam "was"; I suspect that, in this context, it's simply because he has died. You say that many more would have been saved in the flood: Please note that all of the men, the named individuals, in Genesis 5, died before the flood. The last one, Methuselah, died the same year as the flood and some say he lived the longest to demonstrate the longsuffering of God. At any rate, none of these "sons of God" (believers) perished in the flood. Noah is the only "son of God" (believer), in the Genesis 5 list, who made it to the other side.

 

[PennEd]

Adam was a "son of God" because he was a believer.

Where's that written?

Adam was a direct creation of God. The day Adam sinned, he spiritually died. We have no capacity to fully understand what that was like, because the OPPOSITE happens to us. We are born spiritually dead, and are born again by Him, as a direct creation, with a NEW heart, from God.

Noah is the only "son of God" (believer), in the Genesis 5 list, who made it to the other side.

Where is it stated that Noah was a "son of God"? It says he was blameless and perfect in his uncorrupted genes.

Please note that all of the men, the named individuals, in Genesis 5, died before the flood.

'and had sons and daughters.'... stated over and over in Gen 5. The Patriarchal line itself may have died pre-Flood, but certainly NOT their huge progeny.

 

[PennEd]

Adam was a "son of God" because he was a believer. One must be "begotten" to be a "son". Jesus Christ was "begotten" of the Father and believers are "begotten" by faith. You mention that Adam "was"; I suspect that, in this context, it's simply because he has died. You say that many more would have been saved in the flood: Please note that all of the men, the named individuals, in Genesis 5, died before the flood. The last one, Methuselah, died the same year as the flood and some say he lived the longest to demonstrate the longsuffering of God. At any rate, none of these "sons of God" (believers) perished in the flood. Noah is the only "son of God" (believer), in the Genesis 5 list, who made it to the other side.

Who are these beings, referred to in Job?


Job 1:6

New King James Version

Satan Attacks Job’s Character
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and [a]Satan also came among them.

Job 38:7

New King James Version

7 When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?


Who are these sons of God who shouted for joy upon seeing God's Creation?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Where's that written?

Adam was a direct creation of God. The day Adam sinned, he spiritually died. We have no capacity to fully understand what that was like, because the OPPOSITE happens to us. We are born spiritually dead, and are born again by Him, as a direct creation, with a NEW heart, from God.

Where is it stated that Noah was a "son of God"? It says he was blameless and perfect in his uncorrupted genes.


'and had sons and daughters.'... stated over and over in Gen 5. The Patriarchal line itself may have died pre-Flood, but certainly NOT their huge progeny.

“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭

not because Adam was a believer but because man is created as the only creature in creation in his own image and likeness mans true place in creation is to be his children. It’s mans place in creation to be Gods sons.

“Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:29‬ ‭

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the idea of Gods children comes from creation

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

mankind is the only creature in all the Bible made in Gods image and likeness they are his children “ Adam was the son mankind are the sons

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Who are these beings, referred to in Job?


Job 1:6

New King James Version

Satan Attacks Job’s Character
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and [a]Satan also came among them.

Job 38:7

New King James Version

7 When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?


Who are these sons of God who shouted for joy upon seeing God's Creation?

mankind . It’s a reference to the beginning when all was very good

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27, 31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the angels are never said to be made in his image are never called his offspring are said to be his spiritual ministers and the clear distinction between the children of flesh and blood is made known by what form Christ the son took he didn’t become and angel because thy children are mankind

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the sons are mankind different than angels angels are his ministers or servants and none have ever been called his sons

“being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:4-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the children are the heirs


“And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:15‬ ‭

Angels aren’t the hiers of God mankind is

 

[PennEd]

mankind . It’s a reference to the beginning when all was very good

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27, 31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the angels are never said to be made in his image are never called his offspring are said to be his spiritual ministers and the clear distinction between the children of flesh and blood is made known by what form Christ the son took he didn’t become and angel because thy children are mankind

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the sons are mankind different than angels angels are his ministers or servants and none have ever been called his sons

“being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:4-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the children are the heirs


“And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:15‬ ‭

Angels aren’t the hiers of God mankind is

So I want to make sure I didn't misunderstand you.

The sons of God, that witnessed God Creating the Universe and everything in it, in Job 38:7, are human Beings?

 

[Shepherd]

So I want to make sure I didn't misunderstand you.

The sons of God, that witnessed God Creating the Universe and everything in it, in Job 38:7, are human Beings?

Ok, I'm probably about to lose all "credibility'' here with some. So be it.
Question: why would God ask Job to "declare if thou hast wisdom" to the question "where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth" if the simple answer was "easy......I did not exist yet"? Suppose the answer DID require wisdom and it was NOT that simple?

Suppose that " the earth" , that is, earth the planet, does not have a physical cornerstone?
Suppose the foundations are the Gospel and the Cornerstone is Christ?
Suppose that not "all" of the "sons of God", namely believers, have even been born yet within the confines of time, but all will be present in the future?
Suppose that God, who is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the Great I Am, the one who "inhabits eternity" has indeed already laid the foundations "In Zion", and Christ is this Cornerstone in that future time?
Suppose that if Job had possessed that knowledge or "wisdom", he could have answered the question and said "I was there"? Because, from God's perspective, Job, a "son of God" indeed was already there; sure as I'm breathing.

You see, God does inhabit eternity. This means he's in the future, the present, and the past all at the same time. Hence, when Jesus said "Before Abraham WAS.......I AM" . That just blows my mind. Anyway....fire away. Oh yes, and those "sons of God" in Job chapters 1 and 2, they were human believers too. As Abraham and Moses were "before the Lord" so were they. They didn't have to go to Heaven to be "before the Lord." and when you go "before the Lord" at the altar in your church, likewise the Devil is there too just like in Job chapters 1 and 2. Incidentally, the word "angels" is mentioned in the same Book of Job, presumably penned by the same author so why didn't he call those "sons of God" too?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

So I want to make sure I didn't misunderstand you.

The sons of God, that witnessed God Creating the Universe and everything in it, in Job 38:7, are human Beings?

Mano that’s not what those scriptures say at all Is the thing. Your reading it like that because you already believe in giants and are trying to
Make this

“that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:2-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


to say “ the angels had sex with women”
And like the quotes you used earlier it’s not what’s there so you reject all the scripture showing you mankind both male and female are the children of God uniquely created in his image and likeness unlike any other creature to be his children from the first to the end mans purpose is to be Gods children

“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And man then was corrupted by wicked angels not through perverted pro creation but through deception spiritual deception accomplished through the devils work in Eden corrupting thier knowledge concerning the first commandment and forbidden knowledge in Eden

angels are Gods spiritual servants in creation that is their role in the creation to serve Gods Will and minister to those who inherit salvation Gods purposes from before creation children mankind alone.

“There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil. And his sons went and feasted in their houses, every one his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them. And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.”
‭‭Job‬ ‭1:1, 4-7‬ ‭KJV‬

this is about jobs children who are a faithful servant of Gods descendants , just like abrahams children were Gods people and become Gods children.

when man used to come to Gos in the ot Satan was there to accuse them like this also another example

“And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.

And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?”
‭‭Zechariah‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they had an accuser who appeared before God day and night against them but Christ has cast him out of that role now d we have advocate with God on our behalf a merciful and forgiving advocate Jesus Christ who’s for us and not accusing us of sin but remitting and forgiving our sins when we repent.

The children are mankind the hiers of creation

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

not to angels did he give the created things no brother he gave the creation to the hiers because they are his children

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:26-27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He is the father and we are the children but we were deceived by angels and led astray into sin and death so they could do evil and rule creation through mankind the children of God and heirs of eternal salvation and the new earth

“But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the angels have thier place in creation that’s what it is thoer the ministers brother some rebelled with satan In eden. they aren’t the children and heirs of God we in Christ are and mans place has always been since the first man adam the son.

the sons of God are the faithful in God who had atonement through seths priesthood line written in genesis . it’s the line of Seth and that genealogy mentioned , cains genealogy is the fallen sinful lineage of humans . Gods people had mixed with cains daughters.

You have to have dna to breed flesh and blood angels are spiritual beings that possess people they don’t have super flesh and blood dna thier ministering heaven heavenly spirits

The giants are rhetorical and it’s about the amount of thier renown and accomplishment and they lived a thousand year lifespans image how much of a rhetorical giant a man could be a legend in 700 , 800 years see how it sort of interprets otself here

“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they were great men like super men old ancient long lasting men

 

[PennEd]

Mano that’s not what those scriptures say at all Is the thing. Your reading it like that because you already believe in giants and are trying to
Make this

“that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:2-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


to say “ the angels had sex with women”
And like the quotes you used earlier it’s not what’s there so you reject all the scripture showing you mankind both male and female are the children of God uniquely created in his image and likeness unlike any other creature to be his children from the first to the end mans purpose is to be Gods children

“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And man then was corrupted by wicked angels not through perverted pro creation but through deception spiritual deception accomplished through the devils work in Eden corrupting thier knowledge concerning the first commandment and forbidden knowledge in Eden

angels are Gods spiritual servants in creation that is their role in the creation to serve Gods Will and minister to those who inherit salvation Gods purposes from before creation children mankind alone.

“There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil. And his sons went and feasted in their houses, every one his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them. And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.”
‭‭Job‬ ‭1:1, 4-7‬ ‭KJV‬

this is about jobs children who are a faithful servant of Gods descendants , just like abrahams children were Gods people and become Gods children.

when man used to come to Gos in the ot Satan was there to accuse them like this also another example

“And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.

And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?”
‭‭Zechariah‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they had an accuser who appeared before God day and night against them but Christ has cast him out of that role now d we have advocate with God on our behalf a merciful and forgiving advocate Jesus Christ who’s for us and not accusing us of sin but remitting and forgiving our sins when we repent.

The children are mankind the hiers of creation

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

not to angels did he give the created things no brother he gave the creation to the hiers because they are his children

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:26-27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He is the father and we are the children but we were deceived by angels and led astray into sin and death so they could do evil and rule creation through mankind the children of God and heirs of eternal salvation and the new earth

“But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the angels have thier place in creation that’s what it is thoer the ministers brother some rebelled with satan In eden. they aren’t the children and heirs of God we in Christ are and mans place has always been since the first man adam the son.

the sons of God are the faithful in God who had atonement through seths priesthood line written in genesis . it’s the line of Seth and that genealogy mentioned , cains genealogy is the fallen sinful lineage of humans . Gods people had mixed with cains daughters.

You have to have dna to breed flesh and blood angels are spiritual beings that possess people they don’t have super flesh and blood dna thier ministering heaven heavenly spirits

The giants are rhetorical and it’s about the amount of thier renown and accomplishment and they lived a thousand year lifespans image how much of a rhetorical giant a man could be a legend in 700 , 800 years see how it sort of interprets otself here

“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they were great men like super men old ancient long lasting men

Yeah. I didn’t read any of this.

I just would like to know if you believe what you said, that the beings in Job 38 were human beings.

A yes or no will suffice.