Withing the veil Part 6 (being perfected in love)
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hahaha, just so you no i have no affiliation with nar or any other organization. I am a bible believing follower of Christ. Nothing more, nothing less 
However I do know the difference between dispensationism, and historic premillennialism
However I do know the difference between dispensationism, and historic premillennialism
bring out all your tired doctrines that have been debunked long ago.
bible beliving follower of Jesus Christ and nothing else? NOT A SINGLE PRESUPPOSITION YOU PICKED UP ALONG THE WAY?
nonsense....but i know who you are.
here's who i am:
REFORMED
COVENANT
AMILLENNIAL
CESSATIONIST
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mmm....
You say you believe in Jesus with all your heart, love Him more than life, hear His voice which are all very good.
none of which make you a false prophet but none of which makes you a prophet either.
Do you intentionally lie? no I have not seen where you have. You tend to say what you believe. I may not agree with what you believe and will tell you so but if you speak truly when you say that you believe in Jesus with all your heart and have faith in Him. He will justify His people so why complain of persecution? why not instead do as God tells you?
Matthew 5:43-45
New King James Version (NKJV)
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
why do I not address Zone you may ask? well zone and I had it out a while back. She'll read my words and do what she wants and what she believes the Holy Spirit leads her to do despite anything I say.
Besides we are told to test prophets and see if they come from God or not.
lies are not blantant they normally are like the hook covered with worms of truth to catch and hook people for Jesus told His apostles to be fishers of men. Jesus used nets of love and truth. Satan uses a hook of lies and bunched up truth and flesh.
2 Corinthians 10:3-6
New King James Version (NKJV)
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.
anyways, are you putting zone back on ignore VW
by the way VW your summary of Zone position is off. had to research and question her about it but anyways...
You say you believe in Jesus with all your heart, love Him more than life, hear His voice which are all very good.
none of which make you a false prophet but none of which makes you a prophet either.
Do you intentionally lie? no I have not seen where you have. You tend to say what you believe. I may not agree with what you believe and will tell you so but if you speak truly when you say that you believe in Jesus with all your heart and have faith in Him. He will justify His people so why complain of persecution? why not instead do as God tells you?
Matthew 5:43-45
New King James Version (NKJV)
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
why do I not address Zone you may ask? well zone and I had it out a while back. She'll read my words and do what she wants and what she believes the Holy Spirit leads her to do despite anything I say.
Besides we are told to test prophets and see if they come from God or not.
lies are not blantant they normally are like the hook covered with worms of truth to catch and hook people for Jesus told His apostles to be fishers of men. Jesus used nets of love and truth. Satan uses a hook of lies and bunched up truth and flesh.
2 Corinthians 10:3-6
New King James Version (NKJV)
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.
anyways, are you putting zone back on ignore VW
by the way VW your summary of Zone position is off. had to research and question her about it but anyways...
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What makes me a prophet is the calling.
No, I am not putting her back on ignore, because I am reporting every posts that she makes which is attacking in a personal nature. Why am I doing this? Because I have seen enough of the enemy's words used to mislead and confuse issues, when rather than discuss the issue of the post or the teaching, the poster is attacked, which does nothing but distract from the post itself.
You tend to do the same thing.
What makes me most sad is that I wrote these things about drawing near to God, hearing the voice of the Spirit, and not one word from you or Zone about where I am wrong, (well, except where you completely missed scripture about the word condemn,) about the content of the message, about what the Spirit might be saying. Instead, what you both have done is find faults with me. Well, I am faulty. I never have and I never will claim absolute perfection, nor infallibility. Because I do fail. But so do you.
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personally i tend to test everyone so I do not do it because I think you are a "false" prophet but to see if you are deceived or just not finished talking yet..
i prefer finding out what the other person is actually saying before deciding if they are being lead by the Holy Spirit or down paths they should not be trending.
Everyone is under spiritual attack until they find rest in Christ Jesus. When we wake we will be tempted to stray from doing what God has revealed for us to do. thoughts and emotions will try and distract us from God's purpose.
for example being told that I'm immature and misusing scripture would normally piss me off and if it was a few years ago I would just ignore you and stop talking to you and leave you with the attacking spirits and even hope you sucummbed to their attacks and deception but God has shown me how that is not what He wants us to do but we should love others even if they piss us off and make us mad.
we need to over come our personal emotions that are based on pride and instead continue to do what God wants us to do despite of it.
when people are under attack they rest in their shield of faith. they hear in their hearts the love and peace of God, but the demons hover outside that shield and whisper lies into their minds to weaken their shield of faith. they demons tempt people to reject God's safety to open the window and sneak out of the safety of the house God has placed to protect us.
why is this? so that our lives and our testimony may be destroyed. so that we are not able to win souls to Christ by telling them of His salvation and His grace.
we do not do good works to win our salvation but we do it because they are fruits of salvation. we do it because of the over flowing love God has placed in our hearts upon the moment of salvation. repentance and confession is the beginning. the gift of the Holy spirit is when people are born again and is the true mark of salvation and the seal of God.
anyways.... i wonder if anyone is actually reading any of this. if you do thanks for listening to my babblings, lol
i prefer finding out what the other person is actually saying before deciding if they are being lead by the Holy Spirit or down paths they should not be trending.
Everyone is under spiritual attack until they find rest in Christ Jesus. When we wake we will be tempted to stray from doing what God has revealed for us to do. thoughts and emotions will try and distract us from God's purpose.
for example being told that I'm immature and misusing scripture would normally piss me off and if it was a few years ago I would just ignore you and stop talking to you and leave you with the attacking spirits and even hope you sucummbed to their attacks and deception but God has shown me how that is not what He wants us to do but we should love others even if they piss us off and make us mad.
we need to over come our personal emotions that are based on pride and instead continue to do what God wants us to do despite of it.
when people are under attack they rest in their shield of faith. they hear in their hearts the love and peace of God, but the demons hover outside that shield and whisper lies into their minds to weaken their shield of faith. they demons tempt people to reject God's safety to open the window and sneak out of the safety of the house God has placed to protect us.
why is this? so that our lives and our testimony may be destroyed. so that we are not able to win souls to Christ by telling them of His salvation and His grace.
we do not do good works to win our salvation but we do it because they are fruits of salvation. we do it because of the over flowing love God has placed in our hearts upon the moment of salvation. repentance and confession is the beginning. the gift of the Holy spirit is when people are born again and is the true mark of salvation and the seal of God.
anyways.... i wonder if anyone is actually reading any of this. if you do thanks for listening to my babblings, lol
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you statement is confusing....
I do think people should draw near to God and listen to the voice of the Spirit......
where you are wrong? well ummm the scriptures about the word condemn was kind of a question about what you really meant by it.
about the content of the message?
what the Spirit might be saying?
find faults in you?
I find faults in your words and how you convey what you mean and acknowledge it may be because I do not understand you or how you communicate so that fault may be partially mine. but I do take offense that you always think I'm attacking you when all I am doing is asking you to clarify your points and positions to say more clearly what you are trying to convey.
I believe that words are not the best way to communicate and know that God has better methods but words is what we have. therefore if you really are what you claim then you would pray that you would have the words to explain what it is your words are really trying to convey or that God would reveal their meaning instead of getting all offended and huffy about it.
this is a Bible discussion board. I quote the Bible because I think it is a good idea for everyone to read scripture daily if possible instead of just spouting their own opinions all the time.
Yes i do fail but that is not the point since I'm not attacking you and wished you'd get over the victim mentality.
Psalm 19
7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple;
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart;
The commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes;
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold,
Yea, than much fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them Your servant is warned,
And in keeping them there is great reward.
12 Who can understand his errors?
Cleanse me from secret faults.
13 Keep back Your servant also from presumptuous sins;
Let them not have dominion over me.
Then I shall be blameless,
And I shall be innocent of great transgression.
14 Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
Be acceptable in Your sight,
O LORD, my strength and my Redeemer.
you statement is confusing....
I do think people should draw near to God and listen to the voice of the Spirit......
where you are wrong? well ummm the scriptures about the word condemn was kind of a question about what you really meant by it.
about the content of the message?
what the Spirit might be saying?
find faults in you?
I find faults in your words and how you convey what you mean and acknowledge it may be because I do not understand you or how you communicate so that fault may be partially mine. but I do take offense that you always think I'm attacking you when all I am doing is asking you to clarify your points and positions to say more clearly what you are trying to convey.
I believe that words are not the best way to communicate and know that God has better methods but words is what we have. therefore if you really are what you claim then you would pray that you would have the words to explain what it is your words are really trying to convey or that God would reveal their meaning instead of getting all offended and huffy about it.
this is a Bible discussion board. I quote the Bible because I think it is a good idea for everyone to read scripture daily if possible instead of just spouting their own opinions all the time.
Yes i do fail but that is not the point since I'm not attacking you and wished you'd get over the victim mentality.
Psalm 19
7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple;
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart;
The commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes;
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold,
Yea, than much fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them Your servant is warned,
And in keeping them there is great reward.
12 Who can understand his errors?
Cleanse me from secret faults.
13 Keep back Your servant also from presumptuous sins;
Let them not have dominion over me.
Then I shall be blameless,
And I shall be innocent of great transgression.
14 Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
Be acceptable in Your sight,
O LORD, my strength and my Redeemer.
who cares if you're sad. YOU'RE IN A LOT OF TROUBLE VW.
1) this Word/Faith obsession and inordinate focus on the voice of the Holy Spirit as opposed to the Good Shepherd is the problem - eyes off Emmanuel, ear to voices.
2) not one word from me about where you're wrong? mmmm......well, i do have better things to do, but i know where all the posts are. i'll go get some and prove you're a liar (still).
3) claiming to "ignore" someone as an out for later claiming there's been no substantive refute is....well.....GRADE 3? MAYBE GRADE 4. BUT YOUR PROFILE SAYS YOU'RE NEARLY 60 YEARS OLD.
4) the "content" of the message? which message VW? the one that is in "Christ's" very words?
do you STAND BY THAT PROPHETIC WORD FROM "THE LORD"? is it the details of your offices and gifts within the NAR? maybe all the rubbish soteriology you've built around twisting a few verses?
5) "what the Spirit might be saying." NOT CLOSE ENOUGH.
too late for that.
with YOU?
YOU?
know nothing about YOU and don't care to.
your posts on the other hand are all that's required to find faults cracks and holes in your new foundation.
you're not infallible?
what about your prophecies? are THEY INFALLIBLE AND AUTHORITATIVE?
1) this Word/Faith obsession and inordinate focus on the voice of the Holy Spirit as opposed to the Good Shepherd is the problem - eyes off Emmanuel, ear to voices.
2) not one word from me about where you're wrong? mmmm......well, i do have better things to do, but i know where all the posts are. i'll go get some and prove you're a liar (still).
3) claiming to "ignore" someone as an out for later claiming there's been no substantive refute is....well.....GRADE 3? MAYBE GRADE 4. BUT YOUR PROFILE SAYS YOU'RE NEARLY 60 YEARS OLD.
4) the "content" of the message? which message VW? the one that is in "Christ's" very words?
do you STAND BY THAT PROPHETIC WORD FROM "THE LORD"? is it the details of your offices and gifts within the NAR? maybe all the rubbish soteriology you've built around twisting a few verses?
5) "what the Spirit might be saying." NOT CLOSE ENOUGH.
too late for that.
with YOU?
YOU?
know nothing about YOU and don't care to.
your posts on the other hand are all that's required to find faults cracks and holes in your new foundation.
you're not infallible?
what about your prophecies? are THEY INFALLIBLE AND AUTHORITATIVE?
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I don't believe that the way you ask makes it possible to clarify any points. And you have already decided that I am a false prophet, based on the way you have twisted a few scriptures, and supposed messages from angels. I have always had a problem with your spiritual foundation, but have prayed and kept praying for you, rather than attacking you in the group.
If you remember, you first contacted me privately. And now, I resist the feeling of betrayal that I receive because of your actions and words. And so in His love I keep praying.
In Christ,
If you remember, you first contacted me privately. And now, I resist the feeling of betrayal that I receive because of your actions and words. And so in His love I keep praying.
In Christ,