Were Nephilim (Gen 6) judged differently by God?
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Your sin is exposed for you said this = "the angels despised dominion" = this is adding to the word of God and is sin on your part.
The filthy dreamers are the ones despising dominion, just as you now are doing by twisting scripture around
i suggest you humble yourself before God as you think yourself smarter then the Word.
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6
The filthy dreamers are the ones despising dominion, just as you now are doing by twisting scripture around
i suggest you humble yourself before God as you think yourself smarter then the Word.
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6
I was reading 2 Peter and I noticed how it ended.
There are some things hard to understand in them. The untaught and unstable will twist them to their own destruction, as they also do with the rest of the Scriptures.
17Therefore, dear friends, since you know this in advance, be on your guard, so that you are not led away by the error of lawless people and fall from your own stable position. 18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity.
This part here is especially the message that I think is so important today: be on your guard, so that you are not led away by the error of lawless people and fall from your own stable position.
This is the message of Gen 6. It has always been the message throughout the entire bible.
A Judgment of Fire is coming. When the Son of Man comes again to judge the world it will be like it was in the days of Noah. People will be marrying ungodly people with no thought of turning to God any time soon, focused on the pleasures of this life and suddenly the judgment will come and they will suffer eternal destruction.
Peter did not want people to talk about Nephilim fantasies when they read his letter but Peter wanted them to be on your guard, so that you are not led away by the error of lawless people and fall from your own stable position.
Christians are falling away by the millions. They have been for decades. Some are coming back, hearing the call to repent before they wake up in hell with eternal regret.
We don't have time to talk about angel human hybrid giant babies. It is a distraction from this message:...
be on your guard, so that you are not led away by the error of lawless people and fall from your own stable position.
There are some things hard to understand in them. The untaught and unstable will twist them to their own destruction, as they also do with the rest of the Scriptures.
17Therefore, dear friends, since you know this in advance, be on your guard, so that you are not led away by the error of lawless people and fall from your own stable position. 18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity.
This part here is especially the message that I think is so important today: be on your guard, so that you are not led away by the error of lawless people and fall from your own stable position.
This is the message of Gen 6. It has always been the message throughout the entire bible.
A Judgment of Fire is coming. When the Son of Man comes again to judge the world it will be like it was in the days of Noah. People will be marrying ungodly people with no thought of turning to God any time soon, focused on the pleasures of this life and suddenly the judgment will come and they will suffer eternal destruction.
Peter did not want people to talk about Nephilim fantasies when they read his letter but Peter wanted them to be on your guard, so that you are not led away by the error of lawless people and fall from your own stable position.
Christians are falling away by the millions. They have been for decades. Some are coming back, hearing the call to repent before they wake up in hell with eternal regret.
We don't have time to talk about angel human hybrid giant babies. It is a distraction from this message:...
be on your guard, so that you are not led away by the error of lawless people and fall from your own stable position.
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Jude also said:
“In the end time there will be scoffers living according to their own ungodly desires.” 19These people create divisions and are worldly, not having the Spirit.
I really don't care if people want to believe that the sons of God were angels or not. The message of Jude was not focused on that. It would be a shame to miss everything Jude had to say because one was focusing on the brief reference to angels.
Jude and Peter have a powerful message to the saints to be on their guard against teachings that will lead them astray into worldliness and justifying sin rather than repenting of it and turning from it.
When we draw near to the Lord and obey the Spirit and separate ourselves from all manner of worldliness we will realize just how desensitized we were before.
“In the end time there will be scoffers living according to their own ungodly desires.” 19These people create divisions and are worldly, not having the Spirit.
I really don't care if people want to believe that the sons of God were angels or not. The message of Jude was not focused on that. It would be a shame to miss everything Jude had to say because one was focusing on the brief reference to angels.
Jude and Peter have a powerful message to the saints to be on their guard against teachings that will lead them astray into worldliness and justifying sin rather than repenting of it and turning from it.
When we draw near to the Lord and obey the Spirit and separate ourselves from all manner of worldliness we will realize just how desensitized we were before.
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He indeed did call the word of God 'fantasy' = Post #203
He said: "Peter did not want people to talk about Nephilim fantasies..."
This comment is adding to God's word and, in sin calling God's words "fantasy"
And this statement he made is 'mocking' the word of God =
"We don't have time to talk about angel human hybrid giant babies. It is a distraction from this message:.."
Ironically, this is what Jude warns us not to do.
Both yourself and Brother Amanuensis need to be humble before the Word with Holy fear so that you refrain from such sinful activity.
Now God knows our hearts and there is such a error that we have ALL have committed = willful ignorance.
So now is the time to go before our Great High Priest and seek His Blessing to enlarge your understanding.
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a
shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6
He said: "Peter did not want people to talk about Nephilim fantasies..."
This comment is adding to God's word and, in sin calling God's words "fantasy"
And this statement he made is 'mocking' the word of God =
"We don't have time to talk about angel human hybrid giant babies. It is a distraction from this message:.."
Ironically, this is what Jude warns us not to do.
Both yourself and Brother Amanuensis need to be humble before the Word with Holy fear so that you refrain from such sinful activity.
Now God knows our hearts and there is such a error that we have ALL have committed = willful ignorance.
So now is the time to go before our Great High Priest and seek His Blessing to enlarge your understanding.
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a
shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6
You are 100% CORRECT = calling God's words "fantasy" and mocking does absolutely NOTHING GOOD.
ALSO, i do have sincere LOVE of Christ in my heart for both of you and therefore i tell you the 100% Truth according to Scripture
When i know of it.
AND
i also receive your LOVE and fellowship in Christ = REJOICE = we are Brothers covered by HIS BLOOD
ALSO, i do have sincere LOVE of Christ in my heart for both of you and therefore i tell you the 100% Truth according to Scripture
When i know of it.
AND
i also receive your LOVE and fellowship in Christ = REJOICE = we are Brothers covered by HIS BLOOD
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Yes, being kind and assuming the best about each other will help us stick to the task of explaining our reasons for our interpretations.
The issue is not whether you think you know your interpretation is the Word of God or not. Telling people how sure that we are about our interpretation does not help them know the correct interpretation of a scripture. We naturally think that cranking up the emotions convinces people but it does not convince the thinking man. He needs reasons. Reasons that are considered authoritative.
Thinks like context, original language meaning, other things that the author has said about it. etc...
I am not 100% sure I have these passages figured out. They are some of the least understood in the bible.
I remain humble and gather information. I can put things on a shelf until I have more information. I don't always need to commit to a view right away and I NEVER allow pressure or accusations of not believing the Word of God to pressure me into a view. That is just a sign that someone is not capable of supporting their position with exegesis and is usually because their position is wrong.
It is better to present reasons based on rules of interpretation. Keep an open mind to new information.
If you want to help someone know the truth of the Word of God as you claim that you do, you would need to explain the text and give reasons why it should be interpreted that way. If they don't see it, let it go. It is not you that they need to agree with, but God and he is able to show them as they keep an open mind. I don't want anyone to decide on an interpretation unless they can explain on their own why the text means that. It should not be because I said it did.
This particular topic is one that many avoid because they don't think there is going to be any profit from it.
Maybe this verse is appropriate for this conversation:
2 Tim 2:
23Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.
My reason for discussing it is that it is an opportunity for people to learn how to exegete the scriptures and use rules of hermeneutics to discover authorial intent. If one sticks to the rules of exegesis and hermeneutics and does not launch into personal attacks false accusations and emotional rhetoric.
Able to teach is a concise way of saying having the skills to lay out a reason of an interpretation based on the text.
I hope that all those who use CC will allow it to help them repent of flesh and sinful rhetoric and strife, venting, anger, rage, and learn to be kind and patient. Learn to communicate with politeness and be easy to be entreated. To learn how to give reasons and exegete scripture with a heart to identify authorial intent and never to argue or have the last word. All that one upping and striving, and desire to "destroy" the other persons points, is ungodly flesh and we must avoid it like we would any other sin.
I am going to order a couple of good commentaries on 2 Peter and Jude. Not to debate this topic but because I have become quite interested in these two books during this conversation. I look forward to the study.
The issue is not whether you think you know your interpretation is the Word of God or not. Telling people how sure that we are about our interpretation does not help them know the correct interpretation of a scripture. We naturally think that cranking up the emotions convinces people but it does not convince the thinking man. He needs reasons. Reasons that are considered authoritative.
Thinks like context, original language meaning, other things that the author has said about it. etc...
I am not 100% sure I have these passages figured out. They are some of the least understood in the bible.
I remain humble and gather information. I can put things on a shelf until I have more information. I don't always need to commit to a view right away and I NEVER allow pressure or accusations of not believing the Word of God to pressure me into a view. That is just a sign that someone is not capable of supporting their position with exegesis and is usually because their position is wrong.
It is better to present reasons based on rules of interpretation. Keep an open mind to new information.
If you want to help someone know the truth of the Word of God as you claim that you do, you would need to explain the text and give reasons why it should be interpreted that way. If they don't see it, let it go. It is not you that they need to agree with, but God and he is able to show them as they keep an open mind. I don't want anyone to decide on an interpretation unless they can explain on their own why the text means that. It should not be because I said it did.
This particular topic is one that many avoid because they don't think there is going to be any profit from it.
Maybe this verse is appropriate for this conversation:
2 Tim 2:
23Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.
My reason for discussing it is that it is an opportunity for people to learn how to exegete the scriptures and use rules of hermeneutics to discover authorial intent. If one sticks to the rules of exegesis and hermeneutics and does not launch into personal attacks false accusations and emotional rhetoric.
Able to teach is a concise way of saying having the skills to lay out a reason of an interpretation based on the text.
I hope that all those who use CC will allow it to help them repent of flesh and sinful rhetoric and strife, venting, anger, rage, and learn to be kind and patient. Learn to communicate with politeness and be easy to be entreated. To learn how to give reasons and exegete scripture with a heart to identify authorial intent and never to argue or have the last word. All that one upping and striving, and desire to "destroy" the other persons points, is ungodly flesh and we must avoid it like we would any other sin.
I am going to order a couple of good commentaries on 2 Peter and Jude. Not to debate this topic but because I have become quite interested in these two books during this conversation. I look forward to the study.
Yes, being kind and assuming the best about each other will help us stick to the task of explaining our reasons for our interpretations.
The issue is not whether you think you know your interpretation is the Word of God or not. Telling people how sure that we are about our interpretation does not help them know the correct interpretation of a scripture. We naturally think that cranking up the emotions convinces people but it does not convince the thinking man. He needs reasons. Reasons that are considered authoritative.
Thinks like context, original language meaning, other things that the author has said about it. etc...
I am not 100% sure I have these passages figured out. They are some of the least understood in the bible.
I remain humble and gather information. I can put things on a shelf until I have more information. I don't always need to commit to a view right away and I NEVER allow pressure or accusations of not believing the Word of God to pressure me into a view. That is just a sign that someone is not capable of supporting their position with exegesis and is usually because their position is wrong.
It is better to present reasons based on rules of interpretation. Keep an open mind to new information.
If you want to help someone know the truth of the Word of God as you claim that you do, you would need to explain the text and give reasons why it should be interpreted that way. If they don't see it, let it go. It is not you that they need to agree with, but God and he is able to show them as they keep an open mind. I don't want anyone to decide on an interpretation unless they can explain on their own why the text means that. It should not be because I said it did.
This particular topic is one that many avoid because they don't think there is going to be any profit from it.
Maybe this verse is appropriate for this conversation:
2 Tim 2:
23Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.
My reason for discussing it is that it is an opportunity for people to learn how to exegete the scriptures and use rules of hermeneutics to discover authorial intent. If one sticks to the rules of exegesis and hermeneutics and does not launch into personal attacks false accusations and emotional rhetoric.
Able to teach is a concise way of saying having the skills to lay out a reason of an interpretation based on the text.
I hope that all those who use CC will allow it to help them repent of flesh and sinful rhetoric and strife, venting, anger, rage, and learn to be kind and patient. Learn to communicate with politeness and be easy to be entreated. To learn how to give reasons and exegete scripture with a heart to identify authorial intent and never to argue or have the last word. All that one upping and striving, and desire to "destroy" the other persons points, is ungodly flesh and we must avoid it like we would any other sin.
I am going to order a couple of good commentaries on 2 Peter and Jude. Not to debate this topic but because I have become quite interested in these two books during this conversation. I look forward to the study.
The issue is not whether you think you know your interpretation is the Word of God or not. Telling people how sure that we are about our interpretation does not help them know the correct interpretation of a scripture. We naturally think that cranking up the emotions convinces people but it does not convince the thinking man. He needs reasons. Reasons that are considered authoritative.
Thinks like context, original language meaning, other things that the author has said about it. etc...
I am not 100% sure I have these passages figured out. They are some of the least understood in the bible.
I remain humble and gather information. I can put things on a shelf until I have more information. I don't always need to commit to a view right away and I NEVER allow pressure or accusations of not believing the Word of God to pressure me into a view. That is just a sign that someone is not capable of supporting their position with exegesis and is usually because their position is wrong.
It is better to present reasons based on rules of interpretation. Keep an open mind to new information.
If you want to help someone know the truth of the Word of God as you claim that you do, you would need to explain the text and give reasons why it should be interpreted that way. If they don't see it, let it go. It is not you that they need to agree with, but God and he is able to show them as they keep an open mind. I don't want anyone to decide on an interpretation unless they can explain on their own why the text means that. It should not be because I said it did.
This particular topic is one that many avoid because they don't think there is going to be any profit from it.
Maybe this verse is appropriate for this conversation:
2 Tim 2:
23Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.
My reason for discussing it is that it is an opportunity for people to learn how to exegete the scriptures and use rules of hermeneutics to discover authorial intent. If one sticks to the rules of exegesis and hermeneutics and does not launch into personal attacks false accusations and emotional rhetoric.
Able to teach is a concise way of saying having the skills to lay out a reason of an interpretation based on the text.
I hope that all those who use CC will allow it to help them repent of flesh and sinful rhetoric and strife, venting, anger, rage, and learn to be kind and patient. Learn to communicate with politeness and be easy to be entreated. To learn how to give reasons and exegete scripture with a heart to identify authorial intent and never to argue or have the last word. All that one upping and striving, and desire to "destroy" the other persons points, is ungodly flesh and we must avoid it like we would any other sin.
I am going to order a couple of good commentaries on 2 Peter and Jude. Not to debate this topic but because I have become quite interested in these two books during this conversation. I look forward to the study.
The "thinking man" cannot know the things of God because it requires THREE elements.
A.) Submission/Surrender unto "It is written"
B.) The Holy Spirit
C.) Deuteronomy 4:1-2 , Proverbs 30:5-6 , Revelation 22:18-19
The Word of God is foolishness to the intellectual.
"At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight."
A person can 'exegiasis' all day long, and still be clueless.
Submission, Worship and Faith is the only proper 'exegesis' approved by God.
35 Years ago i embraced God's Way of Understanding.
Speaking for myself.: I believe that the nephilim were simply big tall fierce warriors for lack of a better description. They were not The offspring of angels meeting with women LOL that interpretation is a fantasy because that belief is not in accordance with what the word of God says somebody has twisted the word of God to make the angel hybrid theory I will say that again it is a fantasy. But just to clarify because you don't seem to be getting it..... it is your belief that is a fantasy the word of God is not.
NO - you own your words and will answer for everyone (all of us).
You have declared God's words a : "lol", "fantasy" and "man's belief"
Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.
So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.”
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—
and afterward as well—when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men.
And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.
Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great upon the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was altogether evil all the time. And the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, “I will blot out man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—every man and beast and crawling creature and bird of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them.” - Genesis ch6
But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their proper domain,
but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
You own your words.................right now you have time to repent = change your mind to have it LINE UP with God's words.
You have declared God's words a : "lol", "fantasy" and "man's belief"
Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.
So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.”
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—
and afterward as well—when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men.
And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.
Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great upon the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was altogether evil all the time. And the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, “I will blot out man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—every man and beast and crawling creature and bird of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them.” - Genesis ch6
But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their proper domain,
but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
You own your words.................right now you have time to repent = change your mind to have it LINE UP with God's words.
