-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Not in school but they all had serious warning signs and despite documented mental problems they also had run ins with the law. Often times they tell people before they go on a rampage. But like the link I posted, there is no profile for a mass shooter but we have plenty of circumstantial evidence or micro agressions that when added up points to a potential problem that needs to be evaluated by a professional very quickly. If deemed a threat to self or others they should be held in the psych ward for further evaluation and investigation. If proven to be a threat, they should be barred from buying a gun for a certain amount of years. Once that time is up, if the individual has improved and now a productive citizen then they should be allowed to have their 2nd amendment rights back. If not then they are barred again.
-
2
- Show all
In my estimation, you're talking about the wrong "g" (guns) here.
Death is inevitable, regardless of how it comes...except for those Christians who will yet be alive and caught up to meet the Lord in the air at his second coming.
With such being the case, let our focus be on the right "g"...the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I've been sharing the word with my own three children since they were infants.
They pay most attention to it when they're face to face with the reality of death because someone they know or know of has died.
As horrific as this is for the victims and those who are left behind to grieve, again, death is inevitable, and it only has one cure:
The resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.
In all your talking points, make sure that you're talking about that.
Death is inevitable, regardless of how it comes...except for those Christians who will yet be alive and caught up to meet the Lord in the air at his second coming.
With such being the case, let our focus be on the right "g"...the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I've been sharing the word with my own three children since they were infants.
They pay most attention to it when they're face to face with the reality of death because someone they know or know of has died.
As horrific as this is for the victims and those who are left behind to grieve, again, death is inevitable, and it only has one cure:
The resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.
In all your talking points, make sure that you're talking about that.
-
1
- Show all
I will,
cause and effect as I stated. the shooter of the sandy hook was suffering from many cognitive issues that were hidden by his mother and the current school he was going to before he was 20. The mother also a teacher purchased the guns for him KNOWING her son had issues. from his letters and emails and texting, there is much to see and read about his mindset. The shooter's school prior to his leaving because of age documented many disturbing things.
1. he was disruptive to his class so much that they took him out and placed him in a lower grade level for the day. This happened repeatedly with no action to correct the bad behavior. He went through the school system with no help just appeasement. after he was out of School and clearly NOT prepared he became very angry at his overly protective mommy, and decided to fixate his displeasure on his mother and her school. Then took his own life. The school system and politicians shouted guns guns guns!!!!
When the cause was not guns, it was the effect of poor parenting, not addressing serious issues, BUT hiding them. Then create a false narrative so schools don't have to answer for it as they hide behind "minor laws" that help them keep A LID ON THIS.
cause and effect as I stated. the shooter of the sandy hook was suffering from many cognitive issues that were hidden by his mother and the current school he was going to before he was 20. The mother also a teacher purchased the guns for him KNOWING her son had issues. from his letters and emails and texting, there is much to see and read about his mindset. The shooter's school prior to his leaving because of age documented many disturbing things.
1. he was disruptive to his class so much that they took him out and placed him in a lower grade level for the day. This happened repeatedly with no action to correct the bad behavior. He went through the school system with no help just appeasement. after he was out of School and clearly NOT prepared he became very angry at his overly protective mommy, and decided to fixate his displeasure on his mother and her school. Then took his own life. The school system and politicians shouted guns guns guns!!!!
When the cause was not guns, it was the effect of poor parenting, not addressing serious issues, BUT hiding them. Then create a false narrative so schools don't have to answer for it as they hide behind "minor laws" that help them keep A LID ON THIS.
My issue is with the comment that schools are hiding information on children which if made public would help identify potential shooters before the event.
Obviously anything someone posts on social media is already public. Of course Facebook and law enforcement should be monitoring that.
Again, I know that killers have warning signs before hand. They torture animals, so it could be that parents would know about that and should treat it seriously and get psychiatric help for your kid, but doubt they would want to make any issues with their kids public. If a mental health professional is made aware of threats of violence to others they can warn the police. But the idea is you want people to feel they can talk freely to a psychiatrist.
Obviously anything someone posts on social media is already public. Of course Facebook and law enforcement should be monitoring that.
Again, I know that killers have warning signs before hand. They torture animals, so it could be that parents would know about that and should treat it seriously and get psychiatric help for your kid, but doubt they would want to make any issues with their kids public. If a mental health professional is made aware of threats of violence to others they can warn the police. But the idea is you want people to feel they can talk freely to a psychiatrist.
Yes. My question is you have said that the school's hiding information was an issue. Presumably you have some change in policy you are recommending. What should the school have done differently with this kid?
As you pointed out they documented everything, they changed his classes. What else were they supposed to do? How do you "correct bad behavior"?
I have already pointed out that 2,600 kids are expelled each year, you can assume that they are expelled for bad behavior. For every kid expelled it seems you would have 100 that schools try other approaches with first (like moving them to a different class, etc). So it is probably safe to assume that 200,000 kids are written up for bad behavior each year.
As you pointed out they documented everything, they changed his classes. What else were they supposed to do? How do you "correct bad behavior"?
I have already pointed out that 2,600 kids are expelled each year, you can assume that they are expelled for bad behavior. For every kid expelled it seems you would have 100 that schools try other approaches with first (like moving them to a different class, etc). So it is probably safe to assume that 200,000 kids are written up for bad behavior each year.
they are hiding information. they are also not acting on what they know and you don't have to make it public that's why it is a false narrative. they take disruptive students out of their class and place them in other grade levels and disrupt that class. this is welknown and many teachers will tell you this. BUT dare not say anything of fear. I am not talking about Facebook. there were hearing on these shootings and documented reports on the shooters.
Yeap, just like the man not too long ago who was fleeing from the police and used his SUV to plow through a parade. Laws do nothing when not enforced, law enforcement isn't funded, public healthcare facilities are poorly managed due to government influence, or due to high crime the prison systems are maxed out in occupancy due to rise in crime and limited staff.
-
1
-
1
- Show all
This is backwards
If you look at anyone who commits a mass killing I suspect you will discover that the vast majority of them if not 100% all have "issue" as kids. But if you take that same issue that Adam Lanza had (Sandy Hook) or Nikolas Cruz had (Parkland) you may find 100,000 others who had the same issue and didn't go out and commit mass murder.
You don't change a school policy and basic law of protecting minors at school by keeping those records private because 1 out of 100,000. You will damage, defame, and slander 100,000 kids in the thought that you will get that one mass murderer? On the contrary you will probably create 10 more for every 1 we have right now.
If a kid threatens to harm others then of course, teachers are mandated to report that and make that report the same day they hear it. Once the report is made it is referred to the proper authorities, and if the report alleges criminal behavior it is referred to the police. Anyone who works in schools knows this.
However, this process is the most abused process in the school system. In order to encourage people to make reports when they aren't sure everything is anonymous. As a result half of these reports are just people trying to slander and harm others.
If you look at anyone who commits a mass killing I suspect you will discover that the vast majority of them if not 100% all have "issue" as kids. But if you take that same issue that Adam Lanza had (Sandy Hook) or Nikolas Cruz had (Parkland) you may find 100,000 others who had the same issue and didn't go out and commit mass murder.
You don't change a school policy and basic law of protecting minors at school by keeping those records private because 1 out of 100,000. You will damage, defame, and slander 100,000 kids in the thought that you will get that one mass murderer? On the contrary you will probably create 10 more for every 1 we have right now.
If a kid threatens to harm others then of course, teachers are mandated to report that and make that report the same day they hear it. Once the report is made it is referred to the proper authorities, and if the report alleges criminal behavior it is referred to the police. Anyone who works in schools knows this.
However, this process is the most abused process in the school system. In order to encourage people to make reports when they aren't sure everything is anonymous. As a result half of these reports are just people trying to slander and harm others.
Yeap, I have heard it before when parents are told their child needs medication or therapy but they only get defensive and deny it. I dealt with this the other day by a kid who was obviously not only mentally ill but definitely had a bad home life. His mother was crying to me for help but she turned down any of my ideas for help. Basically living with a bomb and praying it won't blow up one day.
I get it though from a caring parents standpoint, we don't want our kids to be labeled or forced into all these medications and therapy but we must accept that, the alternative is no way for that child to live.
But most of the time they also do not have caring parents either.
It is sad that children revert to such evil but often times so much evil created them.
I get it though from a caring parents standpoint, we don't want our kids to be labeled or forced into all these medications and therapy but we must accept that, the alternative is no way for that child to live.
But most of the time they also do not have caring parents either.
It is sad that children revert to such evil but often times so much evil created them.
-
1
- Show all