Adam and Eve first people on earth?

[posthuman]

Good point. From which tribe is the new bride?

Revelation 7:9-10
After these things I looked, and behold!
A great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!"

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

Says nothing of Adam being created as an immortal being.

In fact Scripture says God alone is immortal.

Eternal life will be granted to those who make the cut.

1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

We are contingently immortal as Granted by God and Advocated by Jesus. Adam was similarly endowed with the tree of life. Gen 3:22 says he would live forever if he had access to the tree of life. Adam was contingently immortal when he was made a living soul.

 

[Magenta]

Here I quote post #108
"But we see in Gen 1: 6 God commanded them to fill up the earth."

The correct verse is
Gen 1:6And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters, to separate the waters from the waters.”
Is this what you meant?

It's Genesis 1:28

God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule
over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

 

[Magenta]

Eternal life will be granted to those who make the cut.

1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

We are contingently immortal as Granted by God and Advocated by Jesus. Adam was similarly endowed with the tree of life. Gen 3:22 says he would live forever if he had access to the tree of life. Adam was contingently immortal when he was made a living soul.

The text nowhere says Adam ate from the Tree of Life. In fact it was
barred to him specifically so he could not eat from it and live forever.

Contingently immortal? No. We attain to life ever after by grace through
faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.

Adam was not created immortal. First comes the physical, then the spiritual.
Adam was of the natural world and did was was natural to the natural man.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

Revelation 7:9-10
After these things I looked, and behold!
A great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!"

I think we are in agreement. The bride is spiritual. The multitudes are a byproduct of salvation of many. Why are there so many? Because the fall of adam made us closer to animals such that we procreated. Jesus granted salvation of all the animals that strove to be immortal with God.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

It's Genesis 1:28

God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule
over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

Thanks. A confusion of numbers.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

The text nowhere says Adam ate from the Tree of Life. In fact it was
barred to him specifically so he could not eat from it and live forever.

Contingently immortal? No. We attain to life ever after by grace through
faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.

Adam was not created immortal. First comes the physical, then the spiritual.
Adam was of the natural world and did was was natural to the natural man.

The text says he was forbidden to eat the tree of knowledge. He and Eve were allowed to eat anything else. To eat the tree of life, and be healed of death or forsake the fruit of the life and you will surely die. I would chose the former.
BSB Ezekiel 47:12 Along both banks of the river, fruit trees of all kinds will grow. Their leaves will not wither, and their fruit will not fail. Each month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will be used for food and their leaves for healing.”
Reminescent of Book of Revelation.

Jesus life was given to the ownership of the covenants. His virgin birth - the Davidic Covenant. His fulfillment of the Tanakh - the Mosaic Covenant. The spiritual circumcision and destruction of the temple - the Abrahamic Covenant. His death - the Noahide Covenant. It is because of this we can access the tree of life again and wear the mantle of immortality in the name of Jesus.

Once again Gen 3:22 says otherwise. Adam was immortal (with the Grace of God). Jesus is the only way for the children of Adam.

 

[Live4Him3]

Adam was asked to choose a helper in Genesis 2, not to get it on with Eve. Right?!?

No.

Exceedingly wrong.

Genesis chapter 2

[18] And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
[19] And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
[20] And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
[21] And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
[22] And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
[23] And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
[24] Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
[25] And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

God brought the beasts of the field and every fowl unto Adam to see what he would call them.

Are you promoting bestiality?

You conveniently ignored the part that I actually mentioned.

Namely this:

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." (Genesis 1:28)

How did God intend for this to happen apart from sexual intercourse between Adam and Eve?

Try not to avoid my actual point/question should you choose to respond.

So tell me, from where do you come?!?

"The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." (John 3:8)

 

[Live4Him3]

Adam was never intended to be a sexual creature, so there is were your pre Adamic creature lies.

Are you striving for the heretical gold medal?

If so, then you're almost there.

What a bunch of embarrassing (seriously, hang your head in shame before God and repent) nonsense this is.

There are so many ways to refute this rubbish that I'm not even sure where to begin.

Here, try this on for size:

Galatians chapter 4

[4] But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
[5] To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

How in the world, in your ridiculous scenario, was Christ going to be born of Mary and born under the law to redeem them that were under the law in the fulness of time if Adam and Eve hadn't procreated?

Seriously, walk away from your keyboard, drop down on your knees, and confess your sins before God.

If not, then at least spare us any more of your madness and folly.

 

[Magenta]

Once again Gen 3:22 says otherwise. Adam was immortal (with the Grace of God).

Genesis 3:22 says no such thing.

 

[Live4Him3]

Genesis 3:22 says no such thing.

True, but reality means nothing to delusional people.

 

[Magenta]

The text says he was forbidden to eat the tree of knowledge. He and Eve were allowed to eat anything else. To eat the tree of life, and be healed of death or forsake the fruit of the life and you will surely die. I would chose the former.

It was forbidden for him to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but he did anyway.

We are not using what you would do thousands of years later to shape our theological beliefs.

 

[Live4Him3]

Consider
Genesis 1:28God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

versus
Genesis 2:20And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Adam was never intended to be a sexual creature, so there is were your pre Adamic creature lies.

I kinda agree with you but whin sin entered in he messed up God plan.

This race for the heretical gold medal between Ken and LactoseIntolerant is going down to the wire.

Listen closely, Ken...

God's plan of salvation from sin began BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.

We read:

I Peter chapter 1

[17] And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
[18] Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
[19] But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
[20] Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
[21] Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, God, in his foreknowledge, knew that Adam would sin and that Christ's blood would need to be spilled in order to redeem fallen mankind.

Got it?

Now, tell us how in the world Christ was going to be born in the fulness of times if "Adam was never intended to be a sexual creature" as the other heretic alleges?

For crying out loud, Ken, Mary would have never been born, Jesus would have never been born, and you and I would have never been born.

Excuse my plainness of speech, but in light of your persistent heresies, it would be better for you if you had never been born...unless you come to your senses and repent of your heretical nonsense.

 

[Dino246]

The notion that God created the universe and earth to be populated is very primitive type of thinking. The universe was made for Jesus and by means of Jesus. According to you, for the sake of procreation. Am I wrong?

Yes, you’re wrong.

The universe wasn’t made “for the sake of procreation” (where do you get such goofy ideas?) but Adam and Eve were given the task of filling the earth by procreating.

 

[Magenta]

The notion that God created the universe and earth to be populated is very primitive type of thinking. The
universe was made for Jesus and by means of Jesus. According to you, for the sake of procreation. Am I wrong?

You seem to think God's original plan was to create just one man and one man only to give Him glory.

I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’ and to the south, ‘Do not hold them back!’ Bring My sons from afar,
and My daughters from the ends of the earth— everyone called by My name and created for My glory,
whom I have indeed formed and made. Bring out a people who have eyes but are blind, and who have
ears but are deaf. All the nations gather together and the peoples assemble. Who among them can
declare this, and proclaim to us the former things? Let them present their witnesses to vindicate
them, so that others may hear and say, “It is true.” “You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and
My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may consider and believe Me and understand that
I am He. Before Me no god was formed, and after Me none will come."

Isaiah 46:10

 

[posthuman]

I think we are in agreement. The bride is spiritual. The multitudes are a byproduct of salvation of many. Why are there so many? Because the fall of adam made us closer to animals such that we procreated. Jesus granted salvation of all the animals that strove to be immortal with God.

so you see that Jesus could not take an earthly wife =]

 

[posthuman]

Because the fall of adam made us closer to animals such that we procreated.

but animals - who are also living souls - have no sin

 

[Magenta]

but animals - who are also living souls - have no sin

Nor did animals need to eat from the Tree of Life to sustain their existence

You know I know you don't say, think, or believe that But some do

 

[Dino246]

Because the fall of adam made us closer to animals such that we procreated.

More rank heresy.

Jesus granted salvation of all the animals that strove to be immortal with God.

Do you come up with this hogwash all by yourself, or do you have help?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Here I quote post #103
"If adam was not made to be sexual. He would not have been created with the organs and tools to have sex and or procreate.
sometimes people just have to think "

dude, nothing in tat post states Adams main purpose is sexual as you are claiming

Get over yourself

if you keep calling me atheistic I will quickly put you on ignore.