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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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posthuman

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So fair enough the war in the Pacific wasn't over but the war in Europe was declared a victory and that can be seen as the greatest victory in US history.
VJ day refers to the end of the Pacific war, not the European war.
do you even read your own links

August 15 is the day Hirohito broadcast a surrender message. September 2nd is the day he signed a formal surrender.
the war in Europe ended before the war in the Pacific.
 

ZNP

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VJ day is September 2 1945.
it means 'victory over Japan day' -- the war in the Pacific ended at this point.

VE day, victory in Europe, was May 8 1945.


you are picking arbitrary days to fit a supposed mystical calendar that doesn't even have the right Jubilee years.
why?
I didn't pick anything. I gave you the reference and misread it. However, I gave you the link.

The celebrations on V-E Day (Victory in Europe), May 8, 1945, were spontaneous and joyful, yet everyone knew that the end of the War in Europe gave the world only partial peace. The War in the Pacific raged on with increased savagery. On August 6th, 1945, facing the prospect of an invasion of the Japanese home islands, President Harry Truman ordered the dropping of the newly-developed atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. In a single flash, four square miles of the city were destroyed and 130,000 people were killed. Three days later a second atomic bomb was dropped on the city of Nagasaki. This bomb killed between 65,000 and 75,000 people. On the same day, forces of the Soviet Union invaded Japanese-held Manchuria. On August 14th, 1945, facing armies and new weapons they could never hope to overcome, the Japanese government accepted defeat. The next day, August 15th, 1945, was proclaimed Victory over Japan (VJ) Day, although the signing of the official instrument of surrender was not to occur until September 2nd, 1945, aboard the USS Missouri, in Tokyo Bay.

No one is picking August 15th randomly. The Japanese accepted defeat on August 15th, 1945, that wasn't the official signing but it was exactly like the US government passing the Church Amendment.

On this date the Japanese threw in the towel, in 1973 the US government threw in the towel.
 

ZNP

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Teddy Roosevelt never said this.

currently ZNP is mad at me because i am telling him the truth.
I didn't post that. Nor am I mad at you. I have no issue with clarifying the dates and don't deny that it can be confusing.

However, when you say you told me the truth that is ignoring all the mistruths.

1. I didn't pick any of these dates. I was referencing the links to Rabbi Cahn and also the link to the surrender of Japan in Post #3243

2. I'm not mad.

3. I didn't post the quote from TR

4. You claim the dates were "utter misinformation" yet in both dates either Japan or the US admitted defeat.
 

posthuman

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I didn't pick anything. I gave you the reference and misread it. However, I gave you the link.

The celebrations on V-E Day (Victory in Europe), May 8, 1945, were spontaneous and joyful, yet everyone knew that the end of the War in Europe gave the world only partial peace. The War in the Pacific raged on with increased savagery. On August 6th, 1945, facing the prospect of an invasion of the Japanese home islands, President Harry Truman ordered the dropping of the newly-developed atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. In a single flash, four square miles of the city were destroyed and 130,000 people were killed. Three days later a second atomic bomb was dropped on the city of Nagasaki. This bomb killed between 65,000 and 75,000 people. On the same day, forces of the Soviet Union invaded Japanese-held Manchuria. On August 14th, 1945, facing armies and new weapons they could never hope to overcome, the Japanese government accepted defeat. The next day, August 15th, 1945, was proclaimed Victory over Japan (VJ) Day, although the signing of the official instrument of surrender was not to occur until September 2nd, 1945, aboard the USS Missouri, in Tokyo Bay.

No one is picking August 15th randomly. The Japanese accepted defeat on August 15th, 1945, that wasn't the official signing but it was exactly like the US government passing the Church Amendment.

On this date the Japanese threw in the towel, in 1973 the US government threw in the towel.
1945 was not a Jubilee year.
2022 is not a Jubilee year.
the next Jubilee is 2067.

the official surrender of Japan took place on September 2 1945.

WWII was not an 'American war' it was a worldwide war, hence the name.
 

posthuman

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I didn't post that. Nor am I mad at you. I have no issue with clarifying the dates and don't deny that it can be confusing.

However, when you say you told me the truth that is ignoring all the mistruths.

1. I didn't pick any of these dates. I was referencing the links to Rabbi Cahn and also the link to the surrender of Japan in Post #3243

2. I'm not mad.

3. I didn't post the quote from TR
so what.

so whoever this Rabbi Cahn guy is, he is absolutely wrong and a source of FAKE NEWS.

why do you promote him?
 

posthuman

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i think you should get out of this conspiracy forum, get out of all those sites you get your head filled with crazy secular political conspiracy lies in, and just go sit under a tree somewhere reading the Bible.

that's where i'm off to.

bye for now.
 

ZNP

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1945 was not a Jubilee year.
2022 is not a Jubilee year.
the next Jubilee is 2067.
You have the right to your opinion. However, there are three compelling facts that would make 1917 and 1967 Jubilee years. A rabbi had a prophecy about 500 years before 1917 saying that this Balfour declaration would be a jubilee year and the return of Jerusalem would take place 50 years later in a jubilee year. That would make 2016/2017 a jubilee year. You cannot measure jubilee years which are based on the Hebrew calendar using the Gregorian calendar.

The Year begins on the 1st of Tishri -- which will be in September or October every year on the Gregorian calendar.

the official surrender of Japan took place on September 2 1945.
Yes, true, and I have clarified that Japan surrendered on August 15th, though the ceremony was not until a few days later. Likewise, with Vietnam. In both cases the date in which either Japan or the US admitted defeat was August 15th.

WWII was not an 'American war' it was a worldwide war, hence the name.
I didn't say it was an American war, I said it was America's greatest victory.

I have come to the conclusion that you are not trying to clarify these dates but are willfully trying to distort and twist what I have said. This is malicious and a form of lying.
 

ZNP

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Rabbit Holes I have been down*

*Thanks to Posthuman for pointing this out.

Election Fraud Rabbit Hole -- I don't know why I fell for this but I became very interested in the Stop the Steal Rallies, I went to all the ones in Washington DC as well as Harrisburg and Atlanta. After seeing for myself I became convinced that the MSM was not telling me the truth, I felt that the Antifa thugs who wanted to attack us were the real criminals whereas these people at the rallies were just normal people who loved God and were standing for righteousness. I liked Mike Lindell, heard his testimony and felt he was someone I could trust. I watched Absolute Proof, I watched Rigged and I watched 2,000 Mules. Anyway not only do I believe that the 2020 election was stolen, I also believe that Biden will be removed from office shortly, that many people in the deep state will be arrested and tried in tribunals and that DJT will return to office as President. I can't help it, I know I have been told repeatedly not to believe this (sorry Posthuman) but when I look at the evidence it seems beyond any reasonable doubt.

Great Depression rabbit hole -- it must be the conspiracy news that I watch like Steve Bannon and all the economic analysis they do, but I believe we are headed to the worst depression mankind has ever experienced. Sure, everyone can see that baby formula is in short supply, that we have huge supply chain issues, that truckers are protesting, that ships are lined up offshore, that China has shut down 46 cities, that Russia has invaded Ukraine and as a result we don't have enough fertilizer or wheat. Everyone can see that, but in addition to that I see an escalation in WWIII that will result in the US being attacked. Why do I say that? Well as bad as the situation is in the US it is nothing compared to a number of other countries like Russia and Pakistan and Iran. However, there is a simple solution for them and that is to attack Israel. But they could never win as long as the US is supplying and supporting Israel, so they will attack the US first with a surprise nuclear attack that will devastate the US. But why attack Israel? If Russia controls the Middle East they get to be the reserver currency, that means they can print money and all their problems are gone. However, this attack on the US will be devastating to the global economy. We will have nationwide blackouts and nuclear attacks that take out about ten square blocks in more than 10 cities in the US. Shut down the power and the trucks will not be able to run and without trucks bringing in supplies the cities will all become hell holes.

Plandemic and Kill shot rabbit hole -- I got caught up in this whole conspiracy theory by watching Steve Bannon's Warroom Pandemic. Back in January of 2020 he was saying this virus out of Wuhan could become a pandemic back when that was tin foil hat stuff. Soon it did become a pandemic but he also brought in experts that said it originated in the Wuhan bioweapons lab when we were told in no uncertain terms by the MSM that it didn't originate there and that was tin foil hat stuff. He also brought in a number of doctors that warned of the risks and dangers of the EAU vaccine and the various violations of international law. Again, more conspiracy rabbit holes. I was so bought into this I refused to get a vaccine, my wife and I resigned/retired from our jobs and we moved out of NYC because of the mandates. But try as I might all those who told me this was a conspiracy theory just look like clowns to me with big red noses. Sorry nonhuman, I mean parthuman, no its posthuman.

The Mark of the Beast rabbit hole -- recently I have seen this push to digitize all currency, have a great reset, and hand over authority in our country to the WHO as steps towards the Mark of the Beast. I believe it will be in your hand or forehead like the Bible says, the number is 666 like the Bible says, and you won't be able to buy or sell without it, like the Bible says. I also believe they are ready to roll it out shortly.

The rapture and the tribulation rabbit hole -- I also see both of these happening quite soon. There are a long list of reasons why and I have summarized them in about 4,000 posts in my blog on the rapture. I see the arrest and destruction of the deep state will be like Pharaoh's army drowning in the Red Sea. The plandemic appears to have been prophesied about in the book of Joel. The stop the steal rallies remind me of the street protests in Jonah. Durham's investigation reminds me of Queen Esther and Haman. And there is the "great delusion" rabbit hole, they will say the rapture is aliens taking us.
 

Handyman62

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I'm not one given to having heroes. I am not impressed by what one has, but by what they have given up.
I have 3 heroes...Howard Ellis, John Wimber, and Donald J. Trump!
I'm sure there are countless others. These are the ones who have impacted me the most.
Never heard of Howard Ellis and would that be John Wimber of the Vineyard movement?
 

ZNP

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warning -- this will lead to another rabbit hole when you look into all the food processing plants that have burned up. 3 million eggs per day!

 

Handyman62

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Howard headed a local ministry and John was with the Vineyard, yes.
I was involved in small Vineyard Church for a few years in the mid 80s. Best bunch of Christians I ever got to know personally. I don't have any of the worship tapes from back then but I have found a few on utube and it brings tears to my eyes whenever I listen to them.
 

gb9

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Rabbit Holes I have been down*

*Thanks to Posthuman for pointing this out.

Election Fraud Rabbit Hole -- I don't know why I fell for this but I became very interested in the Stop the Steal Rallies, I went to all the ones in Washington DC as well as Harrisburg and Atlanta. After seeing for myself I became convinced that the MSM was not telling me the truth, I felt that the Antifa thugs who wanted to attack us were the real criminals whereas these people at the rallies were just normal people who loved God and were standing for righteousness. I liked Mike Lindell, heard his testimony and felt he was someone I could trust. I watched Absolute Proof, I watched Rigged and I watched 2,000 Mules. Anyway not only do I believe that the 2020 election was stolen, I also believe that Biden will be removed from office shortly, that many people in the deep state will be arrested and tried in tribunals and that DJT will return to office as President. I can't help it, I know I have been told repeatedly not to believe this (sorry Posthuman) but when I look at the evidence it seems beyond any reasonable doubt.

Great Depression rabbit hole -- it must be the conspiracy news that I watch like Steve Bannon and all the economic analysis they do, but I believe we are headed to the worst depression mankind has ever experienced. Sure, everyone can see that baby formula is in short supply, that we have huge supply chain issues, that truckers are protesting, that ships are lined up offshore, that China has shut down 46 cities, that Russia has invaded Ukraine and as a result we don't have enough fertilizer or wheat. Everyone can see that, but in addition to that I see an escalation in WWIII that will result in the US being attacked. Why do I say that? Well as bad as the situation is in the US it is nothing compared to a number of other countries like Russia and Pakistan and Iran. However, there is a simple solution for them and that is to attack Israel. But they could never win as long as the US is supplying and supporting Israel, so they will attack the US first with a surprise nuclear attack that will devastate the US. But why attack Israel? If Russia controls the Middle East they get to be the reserver currency, that means they can print money and all their problems are gone. However, this attack on the US will be devastating to the global economy. We will have nationwide blackouts and nuclear attacks that take out about ten square blocks in more than 10 cities in the US. Shut down the power and the trucks will not be able to run and without trucks bringing in supplies the cities will all become hell holes.

Plandemic and Kill shot rabbit hole -- I got caught up in this whole conspiracy theory by watching Steve Bannon's Warroom Pandemic. Back in January of 2020 he was saying this virus out of Wuhan could become a pandemic back when that was tin foil hat stuff. Soon it did become a pandemic but he also brought in experts that said it originated in the Wuhan bioweapons lab when we were told in no uncertain terms by the MSM that it didn't originate there and that was tin foil hat stuff. He also brought in a number of doctors that warned of the risks and dangers of the EAU vaccine and the various violations of international law. Again, more conspiracy rabbit holes. I was so bought into this I refused to get a vaccine, my wife and I resigned/retired from our jobs and we moved out of NYC because of the mandates. But try as I might all those who told me this was a conspiracy theory just look like clowns to me with big red noses. Sorry nonhuman, I mean parthuman, no its posthuman.

The Mark of the Beast rabbit hole -- recently I have seen this push to digitize all currency, have a great reset, and hand over authority in our country to the WHO as steps towards the Mark of the Beast. I believe it will be in your hand or forehead like the Bible says, the number is 666 like the Bible says, and you won't be able to buy or sell without it, like the Bible says. I also believe they are ready to roll it out shortly.

The rapture and the tribulation rabbit hole -- I also see both of these happening quite soon. There are a long list of reasons why and I have summarized them in about 4,000 posts in my blog on the rapture. I see the arrest and destruction of the deep state will be like Pharaoh's army drowning in the Red Sea. The plandemic appears to have been prophesied about in the book of Joel. The stop the steal rallies remind me of the street protests in Jonah. Durham's investigation reminds me of Queen Esther and Haman. And there is the "great delusion" rabbit hole, they will say the rapture is aliens taking us.

you left out your planet x rabbit hole.

of course, that was such an epic fail, i would have ran from that one too.
 

ZNP

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you left out your planet x rabbit hole.

of course, that was such an epic fail, i would have ran from that one too.
Fair enough. Wormwood, or Planet X is thought to be a brown star that is part of a binary star system with our sun, I think this part of the story is very well supported by astronomical data such as the orbits of the planets, the pioneer probe, and a number of astronomers who have claimed to have heard about it.

This Brown dwarf has a couple of planets and a number of moons that revolve around it. They are on a very different orbit than the 8 planets that we generally associate with this solar system. Once again, this is supported by the orbits, of the planets we can see and the astronomers who have reported on it.

The orbit is very elliptical which means it only comes around about every 500 years. However, when it does it can have huge impacts on Earth. The gravitational attraction can cause huge earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and can even explain the time the sun stood still in Joshua. Many historical accounts over the last several thousand years might be explained by this brown dwarf star and the planets with it.

Several people have had some very remarkable comments about it.

1. They say that the Vatican invested in a very special and expensive telescope designed to see this and measure it and this telescope is in the US, I think it is in Arizona.

2. They say the US sent the Pioneer probe out to spot this thing and shortly thereafter the US (George Bush) advised all the leaders of other countries that this was going to cause cataclysmic events in the US.

3. After this the US has invested heavily in building underground bases, Russia has built a huge city under the Ural mountains, China, Europe, etc. I have posted some amazing videos of truck drivers driving 18 wheelers into these underground bases, driving for miles underground and apparently being hooked up to all kinds of train networks. It is also said that the Denver Airport has a huge underground base which is basically the center of this network.

4. The US moved a bioweapons lab which was on an island (Plum Island) to Kansas. It was on the island so that if there were a leak you would protect the rest of the country, but apparently they think when this brown dwarf buzzes the earth it will cause massive flooding.

5. I also posted articles from Forbes and other magazines pointing out that billionaires had increased the purchased of underground luxury bunkers by about 1,000%. Now it seems strange to pay a premium to live underground unless you knew something. To have a paranoid billionaire is one thing, but for all of them to want their own underground luxury bunker is an alarm.

These are all facts, I don't consider this anything that is really worth debating. If someone doesn't believe fine, but it does explain much of what we see in the book of Revelation including what is referred to as wormwood.

6. There are prophesies concerning 2029 and this thing causing incredible destruction then. I have reported that and posted links to that.

7. There is also a guy named Jeffrey McGaha who thought he could see warnings about this event encoded into Hollywood movies. The idea is that the rich elites want to be able to say that not only did they know beforehand but they "warned" us only we were too stupid to see the warnings. I posted some of his stuff. He thought he could see the date and time in which the Earth would be hit by a massive meteor shower. He was wrong. He came out and said he was wrong. I posted the link to the video where he said he was wrong.

What I don't think anyone can dispute (IMO it is a waste of time disputing it, just like the US government mocking and ridiculing people who reported UFO's for 70 years only to then come out and say they were right all along) is that our solar system is a binary star system and the other star is on a very elliptical orbit that takes hundreds of years to swing past the sun. When it does it can have disastrous effects on earth, the leaders know this, they are monitoring it, they are preparing for disaster and just like UFO's they aren't telling anyone anything.
 

ZNP

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Rabbit Holes I have been down*

*Thanks to Posthuman for pointing this out.
This is stunning to me. I list 5 things that were called conspiracy theories, tin foil hat theories but are now proven to be indisputably true and yet there are still those who want to call them "rabbit holes".

1. The people who railed against those who were claiming there was election fraud, ridiculing and mocking them. We now have the indisputable evidence. Why would you still listen to them? Turn off CNN, turn off MSNBC. Turn off NPR. Turn off Leslie Stahl, etc., etc. They lied to you, you know they lied to you and yet you continue to listen to them. Hey, you will share in their judgment because you loved the lie and hated the truth.

2. The people like Jim Kramer who said to "buy on the dip", turn him off. The people who gushed about Biden and his economic policy. Turn them off. Idiots like AOC and all those pushing this woke agenda that causes an economic collapse. Turn them off.

3. Same thing with the vaccine. They are poisoning you, killing you, and yet you still won't wake up? How many people need to lie to your face repeatedly before you wake up? So the people that tell you the truth you hate, while those that lie to you, steal from you, clean out your bank account, take your house, shutter your job, and now want to kill you, those are the ones you listen to?

4. All these tech giants and Economists pushing this digital mark of the beast, a vaccine passport, digital currency, injected RFID chip, and they have total control over you. This is what you want, to be their slave? It is your choice, but please don't pretend to be a Christian, the only one you are fooling is yourself.

5. Then after proving you are the biggest ignoramus, a fool like no other fool, then you want to tell us what we can and cannot read in the Bible, what is acceptable and not acceptable? The Lord tells us to watch for His coming and you say we can't. The Lord says it's like when a woman has a baby, you don't know the day or the hour so you have to watch. You interpret that to mean that hey, we don't know so stop watching! You wonder why no one is interested in what you have to say or what your opinions are, it is because they don't want to be rude and call you an idiot.

However, I don't include Planet X because what are you going to do about it? Do you have a multi million dollar bunker that you will hide in during the great day of the Lord's wrath? If not then it doesn't matter. If you do then it is time to wake up and get right with God because living in a hole in the ground will not save you from the wrath of God.

What is stunning to me is that people think that since the truth is outrageous that it can't be true. They released a bioweapon to kill millions of people! That can't be true. Really, if you aren't going to use the bioweapons why are they spending millions to develop them? The US government just told you that UFO's are real. Shocking, but the real story is the same people who lied to you for 70 years about UFOs are now supposed to be believed and trusted.
 

Solemateleft

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Teddy Roosevelt never said this.
neither did Winston Churchill.
the quote doesn't seem to have ever appeared in media until 2007.
it's FAKE NEWS misinformation.
Thanks for the correction... I went to duckduckgo.com as a neutral and trusted search engine to confirm your findings...
Correction: "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." Unknown Author

“The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything. Do not be afraid to make mistakes providing you do not make the same one twice.” Theodore Roosevelt

NOTE: THE INFORMATION IS NOT NECESSARILY INCORRECT - it is merely associated with the WRONG Author...

The REAL CORRUPT FAKE NEWS MSM Networks and SM PLATFORMS would benefit from having MORE Credible FACT CHECKERS conduct this type of vetting and corrections - as OPPOSED to PUSHING the CORRUPT ONE SIDED DS NARRATIVE... :)
 

Solemateleft

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X22Report: Military Intelligence! People’s Intelligence! All Systems Go! The Best Is Yet To Come! - Must Video
Monday, May 30, 2022 18:10

The [DS] deploying assets and positioning themselves for the midterms, the pandemic is being pushed, monkeypox lockdowns are being pushed, the 16 year plan is being pushed, they are trying everything, this is having the opposite effect, it is waking the people up. The only forward is the military with the people and this is where this is all headed. All systems are a go, the patriots are prepared and the people are going to see the true agenda of the [DS].
The best is yet to come.