Constantine probably wasn't even a Christian

[Jackson123]

Listen, nobody empties the Royal Treasuries to build Glorious Churches to Jesus Christ for his own sake. No, Constantine did it for the love of Jesus Christ, and he will enjoy his eternal reward with the Lord in Heaven, no matter what this man or that man may say about it.

He did not store his Treasures on Earth. He emptied them for the Love of Christ, as Christ taught to do, and thus stored them in Heaven.

In Christ,
Xavier.

How do you know, how you read what is in his mind?

 

[ResidentAlien]

Listen, nobody empties the Royal Treasuries to build Glorious Churches to Jesus Christ for his own sake. No, Constantine did it for the love of Jesus Christ, and he will enjoy his eternal reward with the Lord in Heaven, no matter what this man or that man may say about it.

He did not store his Treasures on Earth. He emptied them for the Love of Christ, as Christ taught to do, and thus stored them in Heaven.

"However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says:

'Heaven is My throne,​

And earth is My footstool.​

What house will you build for Me? says the Lord,​

Or what is the place of My rest?​

Has My hand not made all these things?' "—Acts 7:48-50​

While Constantine was building these "glorious churches" in Constantinople he was also busy erecting a statue of Sol Invictus. "Constantinople," now there's a name that rings with humility.

 

[Jackson123]

Listen, nobody empties the Royal Treasuries to build Glorious Churches to Jesus Christ for his own sake. No, Constantine did it for the love of Jesus Christ, and he will enjoy his eternal reward with the Lord in Heaven, no matter what this man or that man may say about it.

He did not store his Treasures on Earth. He emptied them for the Love of Christ, as Christ taught to do, and thus stored them in Heaven.

In Christ,
Xavier.

So he get support from Christian to make himself great and strong

 

[Aaron56]

“The Roman church was not corrupt. Here, they even wrote historical accounts that say so. Don’t mind us, we’re over here worshipping the bones of dead saints.”
-Roman church

 

[Aaron56]

"However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says:

'Heaven is My throne,​

And earth is My footstool.​

What house will you build for Me? says the Lord,​

Or what is the place of My rest?​

Has My hand not made all these things?' "—Acts 7:48-50​

While Constantine was building these "glorious churches" in Constantinople he was also busy erecting a statue of Sol Invictus. "Constantinople," now there's a name that rings with humility.

Statues of pagan gods were common in Constantine’s day. Rome just converted them into statues of saints. Because of female gods, he created the “mother of heaven” title for Mary. Both were done to satisfy the populous embroiled in pagan practices. Both were concessions to evil.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Statues of pagan gods were common in Constantine’s day. Rome just converted them into statues of saints. Because of female gods, he created the “mother of heaven” title for Mary. Both were done to satisfy the populous embroiled in pagan practices. Both were concessions to evil.

True, no argument there. "Mary" is more important to Catholics than Jesus. I put Mary in quotes because the goddess they call Mary isn't the Mary of the Bible.

 

[Magenta]

Listen, nobody empties the Royal Treasuries to build Glorious Churches to Jesus Christ for his own sake.

Reminds me of the popes. Look at all the glorious churches in Italy! My goodness, they are certainly beautiful.
But you are right. They did not empty their treasuries to build these edifices, since bankers' best guesses about
the Vatican's wealth put it at $10 billion to $15 billion in 1965. Of this wealth, Italian stockholdings alone run
to $1.6 billion, 15% of the value of listed shares on the Italian market. The Vatican has big investments in
banking, insurance, chemicals, steel, construction, and real estate. Much of its assets are near impossible
to evaluate because they will never be sold off, such as its gold-laden palatial church property and priceless
works of art by the likes of Michelangelo and Raphael. An investigation by the Economist estimated that the
American Catholic church alone – which has the fourth largest follower base by country, behind Brazil, Mexico
and the Philippines – spent $170 billion in 2010 on things like healthcare, schools and parishes. And from what
I have heard, the RCC has not given up its despicable practice of selling indulgences, either!
source source
Yes, they build beautiful churches showing off their wealth, which attract
untold numbers of tourists to ogle the display and pay homage to the popes.

 

[Blik]

Constantine himself didn't decide anything. One of his most famous decisions was asking the Bishops themselves to convene in the Council of Nicea - 320 Bishops from all over the world, many of whom still bore visible scars of persecution - in the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. Constantine took part in the Council, but it was the Bishops who drafted the Nicene Creed.

318 Bishops acknowledged and professed the Divinity of Christ. 2 Bishops did not and were excommunicated by the rest.

Constantine did not change Christianity, but Christianity changed Constantine imo. He may not have been perfect, but he loved Christ.

God Bless.

Church history divides the history of the church to Apostle Age, and after the council of Nicaea, history feels that council that Constantine asked for changed Christianity.

Even though he said he would let the council make their own decisions, his influence was tremendous. Constantine made the statement that if the Jews do it, we must not because they are an evil people.

 

[Jackson123]

Reminds me of the popes. Look at all the glorious churches in Italy! My goodness, they are certainly beautiful.
But you are right. They did not empty their treasuries to build these edifices, since bankers' best guesses about
the Vatican's wealth put it at $10 billion to $15 billion in 1965. Of this wealth, Italian stockholdings alone run
to $1.6 billion, 15% of the value of listed shares on the Italian market. The Vatican has big investments in
banking, insurance, chemicals, steel, construction, and real estate. Much of its assets are near impossible
to evaluate because they will never be sold off, such as its gold-laden palatial church property and priceless
works of art by the likes of Michelangelo and Raphael. An investigation by the Economist estimated that the
American Catholic church alone – which has the fourth largest follower base by country, behind Brazil, Mexico
and the Philippines – spent $170 billion in 2010 on things like healthcare, schools and parishes. And from what
I have heard, the RCC has not given up its despicable practice of selling indulgences, either!
source source
Yes, they build beautiful churches showing off their wealth, which attract
untold numbers of tourists to ogle the display and pay homage to the popes.

yep Jesuit own federal reserve
Print money from thin air, loan it to us government and tax payer pay the interest, it is robbery so Vatican is robber

 

[Nehemiah6]

Print money from thin air, loan it to us government and tax payer pay the interest, it is robbery so Vatican is robber

What about the robbery of souls? That is far more serious.

 

[Jackson123]

What about the robbery of souls? That is far more serious.

Agree, rob money as a tool to bribe congress to make a law that rob soul, example legal abortion law

 

[Aaron56]

It is estimated that between $4 to $8 Billion has been paid by the Roman church in restitution to victims of child abuse and rape and sexual impropriety since 1950. And thats just what we know.

 

[williamjordan]

This video makes a strong case that Constantine wasn't a Christian at all but a sun worshipper. He made Jesus into a sun god similar to Apollo or Mithras. He didn't see Him as any different, just another form.

On Constantine's arch, which he had erected after his victory at the Milvian bridge, there are no Christian symbols at all, but all kinds of pagan symbolism. In the earliest account of his victory by Eusebius, there's no mention of a vision of the cross or anything Christian. This seems to be a myth that developed after the fact.

It's very easy to see the elements of sun worship in Catholicism if a person looks. Images of the sun are profuse and can be seen everywhere in Catholic cathedrals and imagery.

Constantine was the one who made the Jewish sabbath illegal and forced people to observe "the venerable day of the sun," Sunday. Does that like the act of a Christian?

My goodness; all the things that get attributed to Constantine! How about some honest and truthful history?

In 321 Constantine ordered that Sunday, the day on which Christians worship, be kept free of legal proceedings. Prior to this Christians could be dragged into legal proceedings on their day of worship, and if they objected… well, who cared? They’re just Christians. Constantine did not change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. Justin Martyr, who was writing centuries before Constantine was even born writes,

“And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things, Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying, Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And those who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows, and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds, and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world, and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn [Saturday]; and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them those things, which we have submitted for your consideration.” (Ante-Nicene Fathers, 1.186)

In the Letter of Barnabas (mid 2nd c.) the first day of the week in which Christians worship is referred to the eighth day to contrast it with the Sabbath,

“Finally He saith to them; ‘Your new moons and your Sabbaths I cannot away with.’ You see what is His meaning; it is not your present Sabbaths that are acceptable [unto Me], but the Sabbath which I have made, in the which, when I have set all things at rest, I will make the beginning of the eighth day which is the beginning of another world. Wherefore also we keep the eighth day for rejoicing, in the which also Jesus rose from the dead, and having been manifested [He] ascended into the heavens.” (Barnabas 15.8-9)

This exerpt from the Book of Barnabas (while not Scripture, is a real historical document) was penned a hundred years before Constantine. To attribute such things to Constantine in anachronistic and reads history completely backwards. In addition, I would argue that anyone suggesting such a thing does not even understand the NT narrative!

 

[Blik]

My goodness; all the things that get attributed to Constantine! How about some honest and truthful history?

In 321 Constantine ordered that Sunday, the day on which Christians worship, be kept free of legal proceedings. Prior to this Christians could be dragged into legal proceedings on their day of worship, and if they objected… well, who cared? They’re just Christians. Constantine did not change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. Justin Martyr, who was writing centuries before Constantine was even born writes,



In the Letter of Barnabas (mid 2nd c.) the first day of the week in which Christians worship is referred to the eighth day to contrast it with the Sabbath,



This exerpt from the Book of Barnabas (while not Scripture, is a real historical document) was penned a hundred years before Constantine. To attribute such things to Constantine in anachronistic and reads history completely backwards. In addition, I would argue that anyone suggesting such a thing does not even understand the NT narrative!

All of these facts you have found does not change that before Constantine church policy was determined by what the apostles had learned from Christ, after Constantine church policy was determined by councils of men.

 

[Blade]

Hmm from what we know.. we don't know for sure. We know his mother was so he might of heard from her..

 

[Zen]

Yes, Constantine was a Christian. I recommend Church Historian Eusebius work on how Constantine's reign helped Christianity to spread and fulfilled prophecy. Constantine was a Great Emperor because he promoted the Reign of Jesus Christ as King of kings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great#Executions_of_Crispus_and_Fausta
Sounds like a murdering idolater to me. Anyone changing God's commandments isn't someone to look up to, but rather look down on.

 

[Blik]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great#Executions_of_Crispus_and_Fausta
Sounds like a murdering idolater to me. Anyone changing God's commandments isn't someone to look up to, but rather look down on.

It seems to me that it is important for us to bring up every one of God's commands that Constantine made it a law of the church to be sure it was a law from God or a law that men thought up.

Historians have found a quote of Constantine saying anything the Jews do we are not to do. That is a reason given for changing Passover to Easter.

 

[Zen]

It seems to me that it is important for us to bring up every one of God's commands that Constantine made it a law of the church to be sure it was a law from God or a law that men thought up.

Historians have found a quote of Constantine saying anything the Jews do we are not to do. That is a reason given for changing Passover to Easter.

Reading your post was kind of funny because when you said "anything the Jews do we are not to do" I laughed to myself. If a Jew told me the sky was blue I'd have to go outside and check for myself.