Did you ever notice?

[posthuman]

Now cleanse doesn't mean heal. What next?

The process described in Leviticus 14 does not heal a leper. It makes them ceremonially clean AFTER they have been healed.
So it was never used, ever, until Jesus appeared and started healing lepers.

 

[Edify]

Since Jesus is the great high priest, he has authority to heal AND to cleanse.
He did both.

 

[pottersclay]

The process described in Leviticus 14 does not heal a leper. It makes them ceremonially clean AFTER they have been healed.
So it was never used, ever, until Jesus appeared and started healing lepers.

See how the Holy Spirit takes us back to the law if we want to fully understand new testament scripture?
Sad to say that many christians disregard the old and try to christize the new.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

8 When Jesus came down from the mountainside, large crowds followed him. 2 A man with leprosy[a] came and knelt before him and said, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.”

3 Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. “I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!” Immediately he was cleansed of his leprosy. 4 Then Jesus said to him, “See that you don’t tell anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the gift Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.”

Ah saints sit back and enjoy.

Leprosy is cleansed not healed. Leporsy is considered sin or a type of it.
When a person had this dreadful condition he was isolated from the populas. Hehad to declare him self unclean publicly as to comute to one place or another.
This disease starts at the small digits of the body. First looking like a rash then to the digets such as the ears, fingers, eyes, lips,toes ect rotting them off.
So in the story above you can imagine what this man looked like. What jesus was looking at.
Notice he said "to make him clean" not heal him. Only GOD can make us clean.
As the song goes...... What can wash our sins away? Nothing but the blood of jesus.
As the Lord says....though your sins are as scarlet... I will make them white as snow.

But theres more.

Jesus after he cleansed him siad not to tell anyone....but go to the priest and offer the gift moses commanded. Lev 14
You would think that word of mouth by him would bring others to jesus in time.
But Jesus knowing the scriptures knew that untill this day lev 14 was never fully completed.
You see after the priest did all that they had to do accordingto the law they had to gather all the jews together and publicly pronounce the man clean....and how.

Now can you imagine the chaos in the temple not only searching the scriptures that they never preformed but the testamony of "who done it".?

I don't get it. If the leper was only cleansed, which is a non-physical process, why would he, the leper, need to "show" himself to the priest?

I'd say that once again, the NLT has this right:

Matthew 8:2-4 NLT - "Suddenly, a man with leprosy approached him and knelt before him. "Lord," the man said, "if you are willing, you can heal me and make me clean." 3 Jesus reached out and touched him. "I am willing," he said. "Be healed!" And instantly the leprosy disappeared. 4 Then Jesus said to him, "Don't tell anyone about this. Instead, go to the priest and let him examine you. Take along the offering required in the law of Moses for those who have been healed of leprosy. This will be a public testimony that you have been cleansed."

 

[pottersclay]

I don't get it. If the leper was only cleansed, which is a non-physical process, why would he, the leper, need to "show" himself to the priest?

I'd say that once again, the NLT has this right:

Matthew 8:2-4 NLT - "Suddenly, a man with leprosy approached him and knelt before him. "Lord," the man said, "if you are willing, you can heal me and make me clean." 3 Jesus reached out and touched him. "I am willing," he said. "Be healed!" And instantly the leprosy disappeared. 4 Then Jesus said to him, "Don't tell anyone about this. Instead, go to the priest and let him examine you. Take along the offering required in the law of Moses for those who have been healed of leprosy. This will be a public testimony that you have been cleansed."

In short brother we are not sinners because we sinned ...but rather...we are sinners because we sin.

There is a constant washing that takes place in all of us. With the word and with the blood.
We are being transformed.
Bibical leporsy is sin or a form of it that only Christ can cleanse......if we allow.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1 John 1:7, 9 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

It does not say heal but cleanse just like the lepers. Your NLT might need a little adjustment.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Your NLT might need a little adjustment.

Except that all translations clearly state that the leper was to "show" himself to the priest, that the "showing" would be a testimony to "them."

The NLT isn't mine. It is a translation that I use (along with about 13 or 14 others). I don't limit myself to one translation as do most.

 

[pottersclay]

Except that all translations clearly state that the leper was to "show" himself to the priest, that the "showing" would be a testimony to "them."

The NLT isn't mine. It is a translation that I use (along with about 13 or 14 others). I don't limit myself to one translation as do most.

Did you read post 5?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Did you read post 5?

No. Not yet.

 

[Amanuensis]

As much as I want to agree with you about how Jesus cleanses us from the leprosy of sin, we really can't go all maverick with the scriptures to make that point.

There is no question that Luke 17:15 says healed. ἰάθη (iathē)

Luke 17
14When he saw them, he told them, “Go and show yourselves to the priests.” And while they were going, they were cleansed.
15But one of them, seeing that he was healed, returned and, with a loud voice, gave glory to God. 16He fell facedown at his feet, thanking him. And he was a Samaritan.

Leprosy was indeed healed that day according to Luke 17:15. Both are true. They were cleansed and they were healed. Luke did not make a distinction. Luke said he was healed. Therefore it is not correct to teach that the scriptures do not say that Leprosy was healed in the New Testament when it does exactly say iathē healed.

And it is not a translation issue. All the English translations agree. He was healed.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Did you read post 5?

So I read post number five where you noted that Jesus told him not to say anything to anyone. However, if we look at the Mark account, we find that He did the opposite of what Jesus told him to do.

Mark 1:44-45 NKJV - ". . . and said to him, "See that you say nothing to anyone; but go your way, show yourself to the priest, and offer for your cleansing those things which Moses commanded, as a testimony to them." 45 However, he went out and began to proclaim it freely, and to spread the matter, so that Jesus could no longer openly enter the city, but was outside in deserted places; and they came to Him from every direction."

I think that it is safe to say that "they came to Him from every direction" because just as Jesus is capable of healing the stinky dead Lazarus with rotting flesh (from the dead), Jesus can simply remove leprosy.

Honestly, I'm not sure what this thread is about. Sorry.

By the way, the Mark account states that the leprosy "left him." This is a healing, not just a cleansing.

Mark 1:42 KJV - 42 "And as soon as he had spoken, immediately the leprosy departed from him, and he was cleansed."

You pretty much knocked the NLT translation, but the above is the KJV. Do you also disapprove of the KJV?

We find the same thing with the Luke rendition:

Luke 5:13 KJV - "And he put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will: be thou clean. And immediately the leprosy departed from him."

The Luke rendition tells us why everyone came to Jesus from different directions. The text is clear:

Luke 5:15 KJV - "But so much the more went there a fame abroad of him: and great multitudes came together to hear, and to be healed by him of their infirmities."

 

[Edify]

I don't get it. If the leper was only cleansed, which is a non-physical process, why would he, the leper, need to "show" himself to the priest?

I'd say that once again, the NLT has this right:

Matthew 8:2-4 NLT - "Suddenly, a man with leprosy approached him and knelt before him. "Lord," the man said, "if you are willing, you can heal me and make me clean." 3 Jesus reached out and touched him. "I am willing," he said. "Be healed!" And instantly the leprosy disappeared. 4 Then Jesus said to him, "Don't tell anyone about this. Instead, go to the priest and let him examine you. Take along the offering required in the law of Moses for those who have been healed of leprosy. This will be a public testimony that you have been cleansed."

The law says the High priest declares a person unclean or clean.
The declaration of clean allowed the person to enter back into the public again. Otherwise they stayed outside the cities.