We are afraid to die Paul afraid to live

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Jackson123

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We are afraid to die Paul is afraid to live
philippines 1
21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

who is afraid of profit
everyone is afraid of not making a profit, strangely according to Paul, death is profit
So according to Paul, the way to make a profit is dead
even though it says afraid to die or afraid to make a profit
I'm sure because Paul believed in God's promise when he died he moved to heaven, a house that costs trillions of dollars
We are strange people say there are rich people who offer a magnificent house in Parades Valley 20 million dollars, property tax and utility are paid instead of happy, I cry, fasting prayer to ask for help, may God thwart the gift, I am happy for my old house
This rich person thinks it's okay, this person is quite stupid
why i refuse maybe i accuse the rich man of lying
Likewise, if the doctor diagnoses that my life is only a week away, we are immediately sad, afraid to move a trillion dollar house
It's strange to move a magnificent house, why is it sad

Can some body tell me why move to magnificent house make us sad
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Likewise, if the doctor diagnoses that my life is only a week away, we are immediately sad
When I was told that I had prostate cancer, I was relieved. And then when I found out that virtually no one, if but only few, die of this form of cancer, I was a bit saddened.

Those who have felt the Raw, Almighty Power of God understand this kind of thinking.

Acts 9:1-6 NKJV - "Then Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked letters from him to the synagogues of Damascus, so that if he found any who were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem. As he journeyed he came near Damascus, and suddenly a light shone around him from heaven. Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?" And he said, "Who are You, Lord?" Then the Lord said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads." So he, trembling and astonished, said, "Lord, what do You want me to do?" Then the Lord said to him, "Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do."

In this moment, Paul's heart had been Spiritually Circumcised by Christ, meaning that he had been granted Holy Understanding. Later, Paul would be given Knowledge, the Indwelling Holy Spirit. These two gifts lead to Wisdom, that which represents a Godly relationship with the Father. Those who experience these "things" will understand that death is beautiful to the Lord.

Psalm 116:15 NKJV - "Precious in the sight of the LORD [Is] the death of His saints."
 

p_rehbein

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Can some body tell me why move to magnificent house make us sad
I "think" I understand your Post, but it is a wee bit confusing. How did you come to the Commercial Value of the Heavenly Mansions you priced? Why?

As for what the Apostle was saying, you need to read all of the Chapter to realize the full meaning..... As for me, I do not fear death. However; much like the Apostle Paul said, I believe I have far more to do here before I go to be with my God for eternity. I know that through death, I "gain" eternal life with Him, and this is surely a wonderful thing. It is only human to desire to continue to live here at this time in our earthly bodies. It is the "survival instince" God placed within each of us, so the quandry is understandable.
 

Jackson123

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When I was told that I had prostate cancer, I was relieved. And then when I found out that virtually no one, if but only few, die of this form of cancer, I was a bit saddened.

Those who have felt the Raw, Almighty Power of God understand this kind of thinking.

Acts 9:1-6 NKJV - "Then Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked letters from him to the synagogues of Damascus, so that if he found any who were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem. As he journeyed he came near Damascus, and suddenly a light shone around him from heaven. Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?" And he said, "Who are You, Lord?" Then the Lord said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads." So he, trembling and astonished, said, "Lord, what do You want me to do?" Then the Lord said to him, "Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do."

In this moment, Paul's heart had been Spiritually Circumcised by Christ, meaning that he had been granted Holy Understanding. Later, Paul would be given Knowledge, the Indwelling Holy Spirit. These two gifts lead to Wisdom, that which represents a Godly relationship with the Father. Those who experience these "things" will understand that death is beautiful to the Lord.

Psalm 116:15 NKJV - "Precious in the sight of the LORD [Is] the death of His saints."
Good, we have to convince that to die is a gain not great lost
Something that need to celebrate he I move to trillions dollar house soon not something that make us cry
Because we believe His promise is true, we are on the way to freedom
 

Jackson123

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I "think" I understand your Post, but it is a wee bit confusing. How did you come to the Commercial Value of the Heavenly Mansions you priced? Why?

As for what the Apostle was saying, you need to read all of the Chapter to realize the full meaning..... As for me, I do not fear death. However; much like the Apostle Paul said, I believe I have far more to do here before I go to be with my God for eternity. I know that through death, I "gain" eternal life with Him, and this is surely a wonderful thing. It is only human to desire to continue to live here at this time in our earthly bodies. It is the "survival instince" God placed within each of us, so the quandry is understandable.
I put an estimate price to attract non Christian to accept Jesus, seem to me non Christian put they interest in money
But yes to gain we must work for Christ Life for Christ couse death as a profit
 
J

joecoten

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When I was told that I had prostate cancer, I was relieved. And then when I found out that virtually no one, if but only few, die of this form of cancer, I was a bit saddened.

Those who have felt the Raw, Almighty Power of God understand this kind of thinking.

Acts 9:1-6 NKJV - "Then Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked letters from him to the synagogues of Damascus, so that if he found any who were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem. As he journeyed he came near Damascus, and suddenly a light shone around him from heaven. Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?" And he said, "Who are You, Lord?" Then the Lord said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads." So he, trembling and astonished, said, "Lord, what do You want me to do?" Then the Lord said to him, "Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do."

In this moment, Paul's heart had been Spiritually Circumcised by Christ, meaning that he had been granted Holy Understanding. Later, Paul would be given Knowledge, the Indwelling Holy Spirit. These two gifts lead to Wisdom, that which represents a Godly relationship with the Father. Those who experience these "things" will understand that death is beautiful to the Lord.

Psalm 116:15 NKJV - "Precious in the sight of the LORD [Is] the death of His saints."
I understand. I'm absolutely sure of where I'm going when I die...I've already been there. I had an NDE. I'll be here for the Lord's purpose for as long as He wants me here, but when I breathe my last breath, it will be a sigh of relief. (I'm not suicidal)
I love You, Lord...I love You, Lord
All of my days, I will seek Your face
All of my days, I will seek Your face
All of my days are in Your hands -tc
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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I understand. I'm absolutely sure of where I'm going when I die...I've already been there. I had an NDE. I'll be here for the Lord's purpose for as long as He wants me here, but when I breathe my last breath, it will be a sigh of relief. (I'm not suicidal)
I love You, Lord...I love You, Lord
All of my days, I will seek Your face
All of my days, I will seek Your face
All of my days are in Your hands -tc
Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Very few have been granted your level of thinking and awareness. You have been given a tremendous gift.
 
J

joecoten

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Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Very few have been granted your level of thinking and awareness. You have been given a tremendous gift.
He is beautiful...altogether lovely. Thanks brother, you encourage me. :)
 

Jackson123

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I understand. I'm absolutely sure of where I'm going when I die...I've already been there. I had an NDE. I'll be here for the Lord's purpose for as long as He wants me here, but when I breathe my last breath, it will be a sigh of relief. (I'm not suicidal)
I love You, Lord...I love You, Lord
All of my days, I will seek Your face
All of my days, I will seek Your face
All of my days are in Your hands -tc
Thank for your testimony would you kind enough to tell what you saw there?
I am sure will envouragement for me that also waiting to be there
 
J

joecoten

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Thank for your testimony would you kind enough to tell what you saw there?
I am sure will envouragement for me that also waiting to be there
I had a rare reaction to a medication that put me into a coma. As I lay on a table in the hospital's emergency department, my heart stopped 3 times. They were able to restart it twice, but after trying for 7 minutes to restart it a third time without success, they gave up.
As the nurse was filling out my time of death, my heart started beating again. 3 nights later, I woke to find myself propped up on a hospital bed. I had in my mind the image of looking down into the waiting room of a travel agency. I knew I'd just come back from somewhere.
One day during early 2021, I was going through an unusually painful time, due to health issues. As I was playing my guitar, it was like words started squeezing up out of my gut. I started singing, "I am on the road...to my home...in the New Jerusalem."
Then there was a flash in my mind and I remembered standing on a street, looking to my left. I saw a boulevard with grass and a few shrubs. Past this were other streets, and other boulevards with shrubs, trees, and I think some benches. It was like a downtown city park.
There was a low-hanging mist on the ground that had a golden hue to it. I turned my head forward and looking up, I saw Jesus standing a few feet in front of me. He was looking into my eyes. I could feel His love for me. Amazing love. He was smiling at me. That's all.
 

Jackson123

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I had a rare reaction to a medication that put me into a coma. As I lay on a table in the hospital's emergency department, my heart stopped 3 times. They were able to restart it twice, but after trying for 7 minutes to restart it a third time without success, they gave up.
As the nurse was filling out my time of death, my heart started beating again. 3 nights later, I woke to find myself propped up on a hospital bed. I had in my mind the image of looking down into the waiting room of a travel agency. I knew I'd just come back from somewhere.
One day during early 2021, I was going through an unusually painful time, due to health issues. As I was playing my guitar, it was like words started squeezing up out of my gut. I started singing, "I am on the road...to my home...in the New Jerusalem."
Then there was a flash in my mind and I remembered standing on a street, looking to my left. I saw a boulevard with grass and a few shrubs. Past this were other streets, and other boulevards with shrubs, trees, and I think some benches. It was like a downtown city park.
There was a low-hanging mist on the ground that had a golden hue to it. I turned my head forward and looking up, I saw Jesus standing a few feet in front of me. He was looking into my eyes. I could feel His love for me. Amazing love. He was smiling at me. That's all.
Great experience when Jesus Himself smiling at you, I am longing to see Jesus also smile at me
 
J

joecoten

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Great experience when Jesus Himself smiling at you, I am longing to see Jesus also smile at me
You will see the sparkle in His eyes as He is looking into yours! :D
 

oyster67

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We are afraid to die Paul is afraid to live
philippines 1
21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

who is afraid of profit
everyone is afraid of not making a profit, strangely according to Paul, death is profit
So according to Paul, the way to make a profit is dead
even though it says afraid to die or afraid to make a profit
I'm sure because Paul believed in God's promise when he died he moved to heaven, a house that costs trillions of dollars
We are strange people say there are rich people who offer a magnificent house in Parades Valley 20 million dollars, property tax and utility are paid instead of happy, I cry, fasting prayer to ask for help, may God thwart the gift, I am happy for my old house
This rich person thinks it's okay, this person is quite stupid
why i refuse maybe i accuse the rich man of lying
Likewise, if the doctor diagnoses that my life is only a week away, we are immediately sad, afraid to move a trillion dollar house
It's strange to move a magnificent house, why is it sad

Can some body tell me why move to magnificent house make us sad
Indeed, Heaven is a much nicer place that Earth, but it is only in the here-and-now that we can sow and reap and store up everlasting treasure.

Matthew
6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
 

Jackson123

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Indeed, Heaven is a much nicer place that Earth, but it is only in the here-and-now that we can sow and reap and store up everlasting treasure.

Matthew
6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Yep, we go to school 20 years pay a lot of money to invest for our 50 years future to be a doctor or other good and high pay job, but for eternity that more than trillions wage in heaven we forget invest our time
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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I had a rare reaction to a medication that put me into a coma. As I lay on a table in the hospital's emergency department, my heart stopped 3 times. They were able to restart it twice, but after trying for 7 minutes to restart it a third time without success, they gave up.
As the nurse was filling out my time of death, my heart started beating again. 3 nights later, I woke to find myself propped up on a hospital bed. I had in my mind the image of looking down into the waiting room of a travel agency. I knew I'd just come back from somewhere.
One day during early 2021, I was going through an unusually painful time, due to health issues. As I was playing my guitar, it was like words started squeezing up out of my gut. I started singing, "I am on the road...to my home...in the New Jerusalem."
Then there was a flash in my mind and I remembered standing on a street, looking to my left. I saw a boulevard with grass and a few shrubs. Past this were other streets, and other boulevards with shrubs, trees, and I think some benches. It was like a downtown city park.
There was a low-hanging mist on the ground that had a golden hue to it. I turned my head forward and looking up, I saw Jesus standing a few feet in front of me. He was looking into my eyes. I could feel His love for me. Amazing love. He was smiling at me. That's all.
Right on, Brother. I Love this testimony! Life-changing, I'm sure of it.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Great experience when Jesus Himself smiling at you, I am longing to see Jesus also smile at me
The single most important thing for you to know, Understand and seek, is the Spiritual Circumcision of Christ. If you receive the Circumcision of Jesus Christ, you will experience His Peace and Love like you had never thought possible (as it awaits you in Heaven). If you're lucky, it is possible to feel and receive a glimpse of that remarkable, Powerful, Almighty Power while here on earth. I hope that you do, for it would change even the ways of Gary Ridgeway if the Lord impressed Himself upon that unholy murderer.
 

Jackson123

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The single most important thing for you to know, Understand and seek, is the Spiritual Circumcision of Christ. If you receive the Circumcision of Jesus Christ, you will experience His Peace and Love like you had never thought possible (as it awaits you in Heaven). If you're lucky, it is possible to feel and receive a glimpse of that remarkable, Powerful, Almighty Power while here on earth. I hope that you do, for it would change even the ways of Gary Ridgeway if the Lord impressed Himself upon that unholy murderer.
When I was about 9 years old when I ask Jesus in, I was experience a happy felling ever, but not last long, and I am not see Jesus, I know why, I am not maintain my holy life, sin, sin and sin
I work to keep abide in Him.
I believe we have free will. God not force you to abide, He call you to abide but your choice to say yes or no
 

FredVB

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How deep is the fear? I feel the failure to do what I am here for. I have had a real confrontation with my mortality. I know time is precious commodity that diminishes, from our perspective. I must seek to accomplish what I am here for, further, while I can't get the time back to do that more. It is still in God's hands, and God can choose when it will be that God will take me. I can only hope then it will not be a very painful or excruciating way to go. For me it might be an experience like suffocating as I am smothered by a pillow pushed on my face. I still am assured I will go to be with God, restored. But God might allow it when others do something to finish me off, and I pray that God does not permit that to happen, that I might do further what I am here for, and may God show that to me further.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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When I was about 9 years old when I ask Jesus in, I was experience a happy felling ever, but not last long, and I am not see Jesus, I know why, I am not maintain my holy life, sin, sin and sin
I work to keep abide in Him.
I believe we have free will. God not force you to abide, He call you to abide but your choice to say yes or no
Hello Jackson,

Just curious . . . do you feel that God was asking Abraham to "Walk" and be "Blameless," or do you think that perhaps God's Words were a Holy Edict? I am offering that God was not asking these things from Abrahan, but qualifying him to Walk and qualifying him, Abraham, as Blameless.
 

Pilgrimshope

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We are afraid to die Paul is afraid to live
philippines 1
21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

who is afraid of profit
everyone is afraid of not making a profit, strangely according to Paul, death is profit
So according to Paul, the way to make a profit is dead
even though it says afraid to die or afraid to make a profit
I'm sure because Paul believed in God's promise when he died he moved to heaven, a house that costs trillions of dollars
We are strange people say there are rich people who offer a magnificent house in Parades Valley 20 million dollars, property tax and utility are paid instead of happy, I cry, fasting prayer to ask for help, may God thwart the gift, I am happy for my old house
This rich person thinks it's okay, this person is quite stupid
why i refuse maybe i accuse the rich man of lying
Likewise, if the doctor diagnoses that my life is only a week away, we are immediately sad, afraid to move a trillion dollar house
It's strange to move a magnificent house, why is it sad

Can some body tell me why move to magnificent house make us sad
I think it’s the unknown brother many don’t look at what the Bible says about death so they don’t know what’s coming after they pass away it’s unknown and scary

believers should realize the Bible’s promises are mostly all aimed at rewards after we pass through this world into the certain and sure next

we fear what we don’t know , we don’t know because we can’t hear. There was a time death should have scared man but when Jesus overcame death after dying on our behalf that fear should disappear d an expectation of glory to come should move in

Jesus died and rose so we can live beyond the death of our earthly body it’s what the gospel is all about

I think some fear death because they havent really and truly heard about eternal life to the point they believe it more than the temporal we see

only the gospel can teach us about the unknown plans of God that mostly exist after we pass through this fallen world

if Christian’s could see the subject matter in the Bible and how death is not the end but only a stepping stone that all have to eventually take then we can overcome any fear of death once we realize Christ holds the keys of death now and promised us life and glory and reward with him forever why would we fear the day we see him face to face ?

what we hear and believe is going to lead our faith oaul believes and also preached this aspect of where to stay focused

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Paul was looking at the wternal
Kingdom Jesus promised and knew death was only a step to reach home that’s why we should be full of joy , thankful and give our lives to the lord in truth he’s offered us everlasting life beyond death which we all face Life without end where death no longer exists

he’s overcome the afterlife for us and set a kk grin in order and beckons us to enter in through the gate