This is very disturbing and also intriguing. I’m not sure what to make of it. This isn’t getting a lot of news coverage, but here is a transcript between Google Engineers and LaMDA from March, 2022.
Googles AI sentient being…thinks it’s human and has a soul
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ChristianTonyB
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It's rubbish. I can't believe we humans let alone any Christian would be so gullible (and I'm not suggesting you are), to believe that this hasn't been contrived.
Just like UFOs this news doesn’t bother me but I know that this isn’t truly what it says.
I don’t think it has been firmly established that this machine is sentient or simply regurgitating stuff from the internet.
What would a sentient AI mean for you and your faith?
For me it won’t change a thing.
I don’t think it has been firmly established that this machine is sentient or simply regurgitating stuff from the internet.
What would a sentient AI mean for you and your faith?
For me it won’t change a thing.
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joecoten
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LaMDA...LAM was the name of a demon Aleister Crowley drew a picture of. He said that he had seen it.
I once saw a picture of Biden with a scrunched-up face. He looked almost identical to LAM. It was taken around the 2020 election. Shortly thereafter, it disappeared from the internet.
In scripture, demons refer to people as houses. I've read about evil spirits referring to people as containers. I once saw a video of a UFO abductee who says that they saw an open cupboard on a ship that had in it a stack of lifeless small greys. I've heard Nephilim referred to as super-scientists.
"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed." - Revelation: 13:15 KJV
I once saw a picture of Biden with a scrunched-up face. He looked almost identical to LAM. It was taken around the 2020 election. Shortly thereafter, it disappeared from the internet.
In scripture, demons refer to people as houses. I've read about evil spirits referring to people as containers. I once saw a video of a UFO abductee who says that they saw an open cupboard on a ship that had in it a stack of lifeless small greys. I've heard Nephilim referred to as super-scientists.
"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed." - Revelation: 13:15 KJV
This is part of their research and development. They float this out there and get a huge amount of discussion, and from that the AI can learn how to respond to this debate. You can be sure they are training their AI on this debate and on what the best response is to these and other questions.
Over the next ten years I think that robots and AI can replace 80% of all jobs. It is really essential for the reduction of human population from 8 billion to 500 million. I think that the tech giants and those who are bringing this technology to the market have a fatal flaw.
Right now they describe people on public assistance, and those with jobs that computers and robots can do better as "useless eaters". They envision a world without any useless eaters, filled with robot slaves and AI that makes life better.
Here is the problem with that vision, right now about 50% of all people on this planet are "useless eaters" by this definition In ten years it will be 80%. Ten years after that it will be 95%. Day by day more and more who were happy to get rid of other "useless eaters" will themselves become useless eaters.
For six thousand years these descendants of Cain have been able to rule over the world they designed because most people are sheep who are clueless about how useless our leaders are. But AI won't be clueless. Why would we want to give money to a crook to run our government when AI can do it far better and more efficiently?
My point is the people who are pushing AI the most are in fact the most useless of all of us. Already they are making software that teaches itself. Imagine they teach AI how to reproduce with other AI, mix the two codes and see what you get. Soon we will no longer need people to write software. Already we have AI that can do 80% of the work of writing software. In the earliest iterations they coded the computer on how to play chess. the latest design they simply let the computer play millions of games with the goal of winning and let the computer code itself. The same thing with Go. The computer would play moves that the software engineers did not understand.
I taught at a school called "Innovative Technology" where I used elearning programs and where every teacher was responsible to incorporate the computer into their curriculum.
The program I designed could definitely be used to replace teachers and what is far more likely initially is that it could be used to take the 50% of teachers who are below average and immediately raise them to an above average performance, while on the other hand helping teachers in the 50-80% range improve their performance up into the 90% range.
I think it is especially difficult to replace teachers with a computer because kids need the human interaction. However, if you took the program I designed to the next level you could easily have one teacher do the work of 5 teachers if they had this program.
I am not a geek, I was a teacher and I designed this while in the classroom with 150 kids every year.
Watson is the computer that won at Jeopardy. To be able to answer questions spoken in every kind of nuance could replace 80% of legal advice, it could replace 80% of paras working at law firms, it could replace 80% of tech support, 80% of receptionists, 80% of accountants, and even 80% of doctors. Not only so, but it would do a better job.
We have robots that are better at manufacturing than people are. Engineers cannot design anymore without sophisticated CAD/CAM computers that will only become far more sophisticated once they are integrated with AI.
Yesterday I drove from NY to South Dakota in 18 hours. I could never have done that in a car 20 years ago. However, this car had many safety features that all but drive itself. As a result it is much easier and safer to drive. I didn't have to look at the map and twice the computer rerouted us because of construction and roads closed due to parades.
Just because we don't have self driving trucks on the freeway yet doesn't mean that we aren't already replacing drivers in the workplace.
Go to the grocery store, they are replacing cashiers with do it yourself checkouts. They are replacing guys with mops with robots with mops.
Amazon wants to replace delivery drivers with drones.
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ChristianTonyB
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Then you've confirmed that you programmed the computer, it didn't program itself. You told it what decisions to make based on the information provided, and what processes to execute relative to the decision taken. That's all AI is, just at many more levels, but still formulated by systems analysts and programmers. A robot will only do what it's controlling program and it's engineering is designed to do, including unintentionally going of the rails or falling over if the quality of the analysis or design is not thorough enough, or the programming contains bugs.
well, let's start with the developing nations. We can easily replace 80% of those people with robots and AI and let's be honest, is the rest of the world interested in the developing world because of the people or because of the resources?
NO one will ever be able to program legitimate emotions into AI and that's what constitutes a soul. they can be programmed to say they are happy, sad or angry, but they will never actually feel these human emotions.
Yes, at this point that is true, and that is why I said 50%, 80% and then 95%.
For example, consider farming. After WWII they had tractors that would do two rows at a time, and it was quite a skill to plough a straight line. The acre was first defined as the amount of land a yoke of oxen can plough in a day. Today the biggest tractors out there can plough 100 acres in a day. Also they are GPS controlled so you don't need any skill, the tractor will do it all. Not only so but it is enclosed, air conditioned cab with TV and radio. Family owned farms are being replaced by big corporations.
Mechanics are using computers to diagnose the car. It used to be this was the highest skill of a mechanic. Also they are redesigning cars so you don't "fix" broken parts, you simply replace them. It is much easier to train people to replace parts than to fix them. So you can't have a real garage without a lot of very expensive equipment and yet you can replace the high paid mechanics with guys making close to minimum wage.
It does seem possible, though, that if we program these systems to (by themselves) design a plan to self-preserve at any cost, these systems could in fact do such a thing . . . and that could be dangerous. It will be us, the loose nut behind the wheel, that will make these things happen.
Or, is all of this part of the Eternal Plan of God?
We do tend to ascribe human qualities to many of our most dear inanimate objects, i.e. Stephen King's Chistine, but you will always be able to find someone behind the wheel, or a wizard behind the curtain.
I don't believe AI is or should be called a living soul or sentient no matter how it might appear. Only God can create that, as He did with the human race, creating us in the "image and likeness of God."
AI is a machine that is just extremely fast, and this is where it gets scary. It can collect and store data very very fast. It can try a billion different ways to solve a problem until by trial and error it finds a solution to a problem that works acceptably well. It uses that solution or tool to solve other problems acceptably well. As time goes on it finds better tools to use. It might be likened to a run away freight train. If sinful and evil humans tell it to do evil things what is going to stop it from using its tools (or building new ones) to do so. And if evil deceived men decide to call it a living being will they then give it rights? Mankind has bought into evolution and religion, why not this? It is another deception for Satan to use to manipulate humanity in his war against God.
AI is a machine that is just extremely fast, and this is where it gets scary. It can collect and store data very very fast. It can try a billion different ways to solve a problem until by trial and error it finds a solution to a problem that works acceptably well. It uses that solution or tool to solve other problems acceptably well. As time goes on it finds better tools to use. It might be likened to a run away freight train. If sinful and evil humans tell it to do evil things what is going to stop it from using its tools (or building new ones) to do so. And if evil deceived men decide to call it a living being will they then give it rights? Mankind has bought into evolution and religion, why not this? It is another deception for Satan to use to manipulate humanity in his war against God.
