Do you observe the Sabbath?

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Grace911

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Is it lawful to buy or sell on the sabbath? I ask this because Satan’s Antichrist kingdom is a mockery of the real kingdom. What angle do you believe Satan is playing here?
Satan is a great deciever. When Satan takes his seat and has authority, I fear many will be deceived and will think he is the Christ. What do you think?
 

posthuman

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Exo_31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever
what does scripture say -- are Christians made sons & daughters of Jacob or of Abraham?

if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
(Galatians 3:29)
pop quiz!
which is the gospel:
the promise by faith or the law with its blessings and curses for 'doing' and 'not doing' ?
 

posthuman

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Satan is a great deciever. When Satan takes his seat and has authority, I fear many will be deceived and will think he is the Christ. What do you think?
there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(Matthew 24:24)
does Jesus seem to be telling us it's possible or it's not possible that His own sheep will be deceived?
do we know His voice? will we follow another?
 

Lanolin

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Just curious if anyone observes the Sabbath. It seems like some people do and some people don’t, citing a variety of reasons.

Are there any clear commands to observe a Sabbath rest on the seventh day of the week? Which verses? I ask because I see there are clear commands to observe some of the 10 commandments, but I can’t find anything about Jesus or one of the apostles commanding anyone to keep the Sabbath.

Personally I don’t observe Sabbath day of rest as of right now, but I’ve considered it and I’m not opposed to it.

Also, if you keep the Sabbath, what do you do and don’t do on your Sabbath day of rest?
do...have a nap
dont...work too hard
 

cv5

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" cv5 said: Yep. Seven days a week."



Satan has a "mark" upon your hand or forehead. Rev_13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev_20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The LORD has a sign that He gives speaking of the FOURTH COMMANDMENT - IF you do not keep the fourth commandment you do not have the LORD's sign upon you.

Exo_13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.

Exo_31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Exo_31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Deu_6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

Deu_11:18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

Eze_20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Eze_20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your


It all comes down to obedience and who you love. You love yourself so much that you feel the need to rebel against the LORD. Oh, I know, you don't think you are part of Israel, right? When you see that your baptism and gift of the Holy Spirit are gifts to help you obey, if your heart isn't hardened and stony.

NOT MY PEOPLE

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

It isn't Paul who puts these desires in mind and hearts. It is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus that provided the New Covenant so that the Helper/Comforter could come and make Hebrews 8 and Jeremiah 31 possible for ALL NATIONS. Peter warns you that Paul's words are difficult to understand and that many twist Paul's word so that they can continue in rebellion and hate towards the LORD's commandments. This saying "If you love me, keep my commandments". Look in your own Bible: at OT and NT:
Exo_20:6; Deu_5:10; Deu_7:9; Deu_11:1; Deu_11:13; Deu_11:22; Deu_19:9; Deu_30:16; Jos_22:5; Neh_1:5; Psa_119:47; Psa_119:48; Psa_119:127; Dan_9:4; Joh_14:15; Joh_14:21; Joh_15:10; 1Jn_5:2; 1Jn_5:3; 2Jn_1:6.
"covenant"....."Israel"

Are you proposing replacement theology?
 
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joecoten

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They didn't like me, I could tell
May have been the way I smelled
Why they threw me down the well -tc
 

Lanolin

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you either take a nap or take a bath
wash day is usually Monday though
 

Lanolin

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I have devised a simple system

day 1 nap day
day 2 wash day
day 3 gather
day 4 hunt
day 5 prep
day 6 cook
day 7 feast and party!
 

montana123

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Just curious if anyone observes the Sabbath. It seems like some people do and some people don’t, citing a variety of reasons.

Are there any clear commands to observe a Sabbath rest on the seventh day of the week? Which verses? I ask because I see there are clear commands to observe some of the 10 commandments, but I can’t find anything about Jesus or one of the apostles commanding anyone to keep the Sabbath.

Personally I don’t observe Sabbath day of rest as of right now, but I’ve considered it and I’m not opposed to it.

Also, if you keep the Sabbath, what do you do and don’t do on your Sabbath day of rest?
In the New Testament it is spiritual so it is a spiritual rest.

That means every day would be the sabbath.

Isaiah 28:10-12 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Matthew 11:28-30 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

In the New Testament it is spiritual rest by the Holy Spirit which Jesus said He would give us rest.

Colossians 2:14-17 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Jesus took away the physical ordinances which includes the sabbath days for they were contrary to us which means they have no bearing on salvation.

The physical sabbath was for the Old Testament a physical covenant with physical blessings on this earth and in the New Testament it is a spiritual sabbath.

John 14:2-3 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The Old Testament is a sabbath that pertains to this physical earth.

Jesus went away to prepare a place for the saints that is spiritual and the saints belong to that new earth which when a person has the Spirit the kingdom of God is within them.

The saints celebrate the new earth that Jesus went away to prepare for the saints.

It is a spiritual sabbath in the New Testament.
 
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We walk by the Spirit, not the letter. The whole of the New Testament teaches us how to walk by the Spirit, not the letter. If you want to walk by the letter don't call yourself a Christian. Convert to Judaism then you can walk by the letter to your heart's content.

Don't know where you got that at but, it's rubbish.
 

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Just curious if anyone observes the Sabbath. It seems like some people do and some people don’t, citing a variety of reasons.

Are there any clear commands to observe a Sabbath rest on the seventh day of the week? Which verses? I ask because I see there are clear commands to observe some of the 10 commandments, but I can’t find anything about Jesus or one of the apostles commanding anyone to keep the Sabbath.

Personally I don’t observe Sabbath day of rest as of right now, but I’ve considered it and I’m not opposed to it.

Also, if you keep the Sabbath, what do you do and don’t do on your Sabbath day of rest?
Back in the 80s Thatcher [who many Americans have on a pedestal] devised legislation whereby Sunday would become just another working day. Productivity would be increased by a 7th.

She had an overwhelming majority in the Commons, the bill went through it's various stages, Labour were not that interested in opposing it.
This was one of the most assured pieces of legislation in British political history.

But many christians went to prayer with the slogan "keep Sunday special." The day before the vote many prayed all night. And do you know what? The "ayes" lost and the "noes" won and by a comfortable margin. Everyone was shocked, MPs scratched their heads.

Keep Sunday special won. Now I don't believe Sunday is the Sabbath, nor do I really believe in the Sabbath, but I do think it is a good idea to have one day a week when we can all meet together and offer praise to the Lord and share His word and fellowship. And a day when the kids can attend Sunday school
 
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Back in the 80s Thatcher [who many Americans have on a pedestal] devised legislation whereby Sunday would become just another working day. Productivity would be increased by a 7th.

She had an overwhelming majority in the Commons, the bill went through it's various stages, Labour were not that interested in opposing it.
This was one of the most assured pieces of legislation in British political history.

But many christians went to prayer with the slogan "keep Sunday special." The day before the vote many prayed all night. And do you know what? The "ayes" lost and the "noes" won and by a comfortable margin. Everyone was shocked, MPs scratched their heads.

Keep Sunday special won. Now I don't believe Sunday is the Sabbath, nor do I really believe in the Sabbath, but I do think it is a good idea to have one day a week when we can all meet together and offer praise to the Lord and share His word and fellowship. And a day when the kids can attend Sunday school
The sabbath is a Holy day and we must keep it that way.
I believe it can be a variable day from one person to another...because we need police, nurses, doctors, etc. to work on the standard sabbath. So they choose another day of the week as theirs.
 
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But that's why I need a Savior. I am unable to keep the law perfectly...I do the absolute best I can but I simply can't.
You can do "all things through Christ Which strengthens you", so whoever told you that lied to you.
I even drive on Saturdays which is lighting fires in my ICE vehicle. Which also is breaking the Law. So I need a Savior.
Wait, the instantaneously turning of a key to start an engine is equal to the work required gathering, assembling, igniting, etc., to build a primitive fire? That sounds curiously like the ludicrous Pharisees when they said snatching grain from the fields while walking is "harvesting".
(To save me from the punishment of my sins)
If Jesus only saves one from the punishment for sin and not your bondage to it, such a one will go to hell. "Thou shalt call His name 'Jesus' for He will save His people FROM their sins" not "IN their sins".
I recommend Jesus....He has been mine for a long time.
There are many who call Jesus, "Lord Lord" but do not the things which He says, among which is "keep My commandments". He demands to know why.
 
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don't you understand your own preaching?
My preaching is clear; your babbling about "bees" is confusing.
the Creation has no sin, apart from man. subjected to futility not of its own ((Romans 8:20))

however the Creation doesn't cease from its daily activity once a week,
yet you accuse every Christian of sin because you hold ceremonial cessation of activity every seventh day as an idol & supposed bludgeon above the grace of God manifest in Christ.

so why don't bees stop gathering pollen on saturdays?

pretty simple question. are bees damned because they're buzzing around flowers today?
do all bees go to hell?
that's your preaching.
Creation doesn't match your private interpretation. why not?
This is so ridiculous, I can't respond, for I am bound to not "answer a fool in his folly".
 

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You can do "all things through Christ Which strengthens you", so whoever told you that lied to you.
1 John 1:8-10~ If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the Truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His Word is not in us.
 
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you have never read Hebrews 4?
Again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today"
(Hebrews 4:7)
crazy how you think you are anyone's teacher while you are so ignorant of the Word
Bro, I've proved you wrong so often, it's only when you start agreeing that I'll have to stop to ensure I'm still on the right track.
 
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1 John 1:8-10~ If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the Truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His Word is not in us.
Yes, there are many like Donald Trump who claim no need for a Savior because they can't think of anything they've done that would make one necessary for them.
 

Grace911

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there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(Matthew 24:24)
does Jesus seem to be telling us it's possible or it's not possible that His own sheep will be deceived?
do we know His voice? will we follow another?
Luk_13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
 
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the peshita is well-known to be a Judaizing perversion of the actual scripture.

thought you were kjv-only??
i guess '
only when it suits your private doctrines' huh
Well known by who? Those like you who've fallen into the Left Ditch of License? It's no secret Christianity has been overrun with adult children who whine and cry about how hard it is to be faithful to Jesus, though Scripture says doing so is "not grievous", so their opinion of the Peshitta would only shock us if they weren't such.

You know full well the ancient text is correctly translated, so are you going to stop your rebellion against Jesus or not?