Beware of Leftist "Christianity Today"

[ZNP]

If you were there too then you should know why we were there, because they rigged the election and overthrew the government via a rigged election. Stop trying to justify the coup of liars that rigged an election and killed 5 peaceful protestors invited to DC by the sitting President of the United States to the Capitol the seat of the People, the American citizens. You could have went, anyone could have, it is not illegal, public means public, you can't shoot the public for showing up to public property for a public event.

I am not justifying the crime.

But the Lord teaches us we must walk the narrow way that leads to life. Someone else committing a crime does not justify you or anyone else committing a crime.

We all know that it was Antifa and anarchist groups that were brought in to break into the capitol organized by the deep state. If no MAGA or Trump supporters entered the capitol they would have been fully exposed. They would have had to arrest someone. But because you have these idiots, fools and morons walking in there they were the ones arrested and framed.

This was a major set back for the Stop the Steal movement and it put the main stream media on the offensive for the narrative.

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

I am not justifying the crime.

But the Lord teaches us we must walk the narrow way that leads to life. Someone else committing a crime does not justify you or anyone else committing a crime.

We all know that it was Antifa and anarchist groups that were brought in to break into the capitol organized by the deep state. If no MAGA or Trump supporters entered the capitol they would have been fully exposed. They would have had to arrest someone. But because you have these idiots, fools and morons walking in there they were the ones arrested and framed.

This was a major set back for the Stop the Steal movement and it put the main stream media on the offensive for the narrative.

No I saw no antifa people there. That's all just the insane lie of the glowies and lazy fatboys that stayed home conspiracy theorizing on youtube, they were not there and are not the rightwing, they're just snarkshark npcs and pseudointellectuals, ever compromising away the truth. The true rightwing was there, the most loyal most conservative Christian patriots were there.

 

[jaybo]

No I saw no antifa people there. That's all just the insane lie of the glowies and lazy fatboys that stayed home conspiracy theorizing on youtube, they were not there and are not the rightwing, they're just snarkshark npcs and pseudointellectuals, ever compromising away the truth. The true rightwing was there, the most loyal most conservative Christian patriots were there.

"the most loyal most conservative Christian patriots were there." By "conservative Christian patriots" you mean the people that attacked the Capitol at Trump's command, destroying property, attacking law enforcement, and trying (vainly) to overthrow the lawful election? The actions of those people show clearly that they were neither Christians nor patriots.

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

"the most loyal most conservative Christian patriots were there." By "conservative Christian patriots" you mean the people that attacked the Capitol at Trump's command, destroying property, attacking law enforcement, and trying (vainly) to overthrow the lawful election? The actions of those people show clearly that they were neither Christians nor patriots.

Nah that's all a lie that the left media spout because they rigged an election, installed a puppet via a coup and military occupation, murdered 5 innocent Americans, and are detaining political prisoners for crimes that at the very most are like minor misdemeanors. Some windows got broken that's the most egregious crime the protestors committed, and that wouldn't have even happened if the democrats didn't obstruct the public from entering the capitol as it was open to the public for the public ceremony that has always been public.

Whoever was there is the most Christian and conservative in our time era now and in our American culture. These are the true believers, the ones with the most faith, the Jedi of our time era.

 

[jaybo]

I am not justifying the crime.

But the Lord teaches us we must walk the narrow way that leads to life. Someone else committing a crime does not justify you or anyone else committing a crime.

We all know that it was Antifa and anarchist groups that were brought in to break into the capitol organized by the deep state. If no MAGA or Trump supporters entered the capitol they would have been fully exposed. They would have had to arrest someone. But because you have these idiots, fools and morons walking in there they were the ones arrested and framed.

This was a major set back for the Stop the Steal movement and it put the main stream media on the offensive for the narrative.

This is all total nonsense.

Nah that's all a lie that the left media spout because they rigged an election, installed a puppet via a coup and military occupation, murdered 5 innocent Americans, and are detaining political prisoners for crimes that at the very most are like minor misdemeanors. Some windows got broken that's the most egregious crime the protestors committed, and that wouldn't have even happened if the democrats didn't obstruct the public from entering the capitol as it was open to the public for the public ceremony that has always been public.

Whoever was there is the most Christian and conservative in our time era now and in our American culture. These are the true believers, the ones with the most faith, the Jedi of our time era.

I don't know if you're serious or a troll. Either way, what you're writing is nothing but baseless propaganda. You've clearly swallowed the lies of the people who want to destroy the US. Trump refused to call of the rioters after inflaming them and now Bannon has been found guilty, so there is hope yet for the US. Whoever was there is the least Christian in our American culture!

I am putting you on ignore, as I have no desire to read any more of your nonsense!

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

This is all total nonsense.


I don't know if you're serious or a troll. Either way, what you're writing is nothing but baseless propaganda. You've clearly swallowed the lies of the people who want to destroy the US. Trump refused to call of the rioters after inflaming them and now Bannon has been found guilty, so there is hope yet for the US. Whoever was there is the least Christian in our American culture!

I am putting you on ignore, as I have no desire to read any more of your nonsense!

We all know they rigged the election, they did it, poorly at that, in front of our faces. It took them three days to rig it, that's how obvious and poorly they did it. The US is in jeopardy the Republic was overthrown in coup. Look at the results too how God insta-curses the illegitimate regime in the illegitimate land full of illegitimates trying to usurp the rightful heirs.

 

[ZNP]

I am putting you on ignore, as I have no desire to read any more of your nonsense!

Likewise

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

Trump 2024: Last Chance To Save America

 

[Nehemiah6]

Trump refused to call of the rioters after inflaming them and now Bannon has been found guilty, so there is hope yet for the US.

From where did you get this rubbish? Do you even know the facts about what really happened on January 6? And was Bannon even given due process (which is his right)? Christians should not be promoting or supporting the lies of the American Leftists. Here is how the Leftist media have treated Trump vs Biden:

 

[Hazelelponi]

If Christians are to be persecuted, let it be for our witness for Christ, and not for petty crimes that can be used to their shame and against that witness.

While there are points of political agenda that run directly counter to our faith and our morals, we also have to be careful how we move forward politically.

We aren't here building a Kingdom, Christ did that already and His Kingdom isn't from here. Here Satan will at some point believe himself to have won and it is that point Christ will return and have total victory.

Let us remember this as we move forward, and try our best to move forward with great wisdom and discernment.

 

[ZNP]

If Christians are to be persecuted, let it be for our witness for Christ, and not for petty crimes that can be used to their shame and against that witness.

Are you referring to January 6th? 884 people were charged with crimes. You cannot say that all of them were Christians. But maybe 500 were. There were at least 500,000 to 1,000,000 at that rally. This means that 99.9% of the people at the rally were not charged with a crime. Enough with the slander. Entering the capitol after police moved aside barricades and waved them in is foolishness. Storming the front door and breaking windows was criminal. But neither of those things were done by 99.9% of those who attended the rally.

While there are points of political agenda that run directly counter to our faith and our morals, we also have to be careful how we move forward politically.

They were careful. Even though there were Antifa at every rally trying to create a fight they never had one because they had security, the Proud Boys. However, Bowser arrested the Proud Boys the night before stripping the rally of their security. If we had security they could have prevented the 0.01% of the foolish and ignorant from trespassing.

We aren't here building a Kingdom, Christ did that already and His Kingdom isn't from here. Here Satan will at some point believe himself to have won and it is that point Christ will return and have total victory.

 

[ChristianTonyB]

From where did you get this rubbish? Do you even know the facts about what really happened on January 6?

Most of us are choosing to believe the conclusions the electoral officials, the courts, and the January 6 committee which is ostensibly being run by GOP loyalists using information given by GOP loyalists, and now the DOJ are coming to. They're preferring not to be misled by the bizarre conspiracy claims by Trump and his loyalists. Bannon has shot himself in the foot more than once, but I doubt if his pride and ego will ever let him realise that. Bannon down, Trump is about to follow it seems. There's no doubt in my mind that will be a better outcome for the US.

I will agree with you about the obvious bias that various news and Op Ed broadcasters display though, to both sides of the political divide. That's a disgrace, and the press ought be brought to order IMO.

 

[jaybo]

From where did you get this rubbish? Do you even know the facts about what really happened on January 6? And was Bannon even given due process (which is his right)? Christians should not be promoting or supporting the lies of the American Leftists. Here is how the Leftist media have treated Trump vs Biden:

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You're obviously so biased that you simply ignore the truth, even when it is obvious. You've clearly bought into the hateful propaganda instead of paying attention to Jesus Christ. He said, "love your neighbor as yourself", but clearly you won't obey Him.

The whole world knows exactly what happened on January 6. The assault on the Capitol, inspired by Trump, was televised for all to see. There is no hiding what happened!

Meanwhile, Trump's criminal inaction is being exposed by those who were with him. Stay tuned!

Bannon defied a Congressional subpoena and is paying the price. Stay tuned!

Also your cartoon is absurd. Trump lied about having Covid; Biden told the truth.

John 8:32, " ... you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Ged rid of your unChristian hatred!!! Mark 12:30-31, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ The second is: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

 

[ZNP]

You're obviously so biased that you simply ignore the truth, even when it is obvious. You've clearly bought into the hateful propaganda instead of paying attention to Jesus Christ. He said, "love your neighbor as yourself", but clearly you won't obey Him.

The whole world knows exactly what happened on January 6. The assault on the Capitol, inspired by Trump, was televised for all to see. There is no hiding what happened!

Meanwhile, Trump's criminal inaction is being exposed by those who were with him. Stay tuned!

Bannon defied a Congressional subpoena and is paying the price. Stay tuned!

Also your cartoon is absurd. Trump lied about having Covid; Biden told the truth.

John 8:32, " ... you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Ged rid of your unChristian hatred!!! Mark 12:30-31, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ The second is: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

I know what happened. I was there for a week. I went to four prayer meetings, three of which were candle light vigils. I fellowshipped with at least a hundred believers. I have video on my phone of 500,000 to 1,000,000 people at the event. I met Christians from all over the world, I also met an equal number of non Christians. This was not a "Christian event". There were very vocal homosexuals who were there supporting Trump, there were Anarchists who were there just to take advantage. I met the guy who put his feet on Pelosi's desk, he wanted me to go into the Capitol with him and I told him if you go in there they will shoot you.

I think it is very clear to everyone, regardless of your bias or political affiliation, that 99.9% of the people there were law abiding and did not violate any codes nor were they violent, or threatening, or irresponsible. Only 0.1% of the people at the rally were charged with a crime.

I also think that the vast majority of Americans would like a very good, non partisan investigation into what happened with witnesses, cross examination, and all the evidence put on the table. Release the video tape. Let's get Ray Epps in for questioning. Let's cross examine this woman who heard second hand that Donald Trump is actually the Hulk.

Let's get rid of all the exaggerations like AOC telling us she had PTSD because a policeman came to escort her out of the building when her office was about a mile away from the Capitol.

Instead let's focus on what is relevant like why Pelosi refused the National Guard which Trump had offered and why the people breaking into the capitol a mile from the speech began their assault before Trump finished his speech. Why were these people who are supposed to be MAGA supporters not even at the rally? Who planted the pipe bomb? Why did they lie about the policeman's death? Who shot Ashley Babbit?

 

[Nehemiah6]

They're preferring not to be misled by the bizarre conspiracy claims by Trump and his loyalists.

But you have decided to ignore the hard evidence regarding massive election fraud, and that is definitely not in keeping with Christ's requirement for both justice and mercy. You have also ignored the fact that 17 states brought a lawsuit to the Supreme Court about this election fraud, and SCOTUS refused to look at the evidence.

Had you been concerned with justice you would have investigated this matter as others have done. So you are in fact siding with evildoers, and those who do so become partakers of their evil deeds.

May 8, 2022
The riveting ‘2000 Mules’ proves there was massive election fraud

By Andrea Widburg


Dinesh D’Souza is an effective filmmaker and he didn’t disappoint with 2000 Mules, a riveting documentary examining the way leftist organizations used activists to stuff ballots in the 2020 election (and the 2020 Georgia run-off election that handed the Senate to the Democrats). However, after watching it, I felt there were some unanswered questions that also deserve scrutiny so I hope D’Souza follows up on these issues.

2000 Mules begins with the premise that Trump voters have found it impossible to believe that Trump lost the election. When they contrast his campaign appearances (60,000 screaming fans) with Biden’s campaign appearances (6 vaguely animated lumps sitting in little circles); the bellwether counties states showing Trump winning by a large margin; the significant gains Trump made with Hispanics and Blacks; the millions of votes Trump gained over the four years of his presidency; and the mysterious overnight counting shut-down in the states that ultimately gave Biden his “victory,” they know that something is wrong.

The folks at True the Vote also suspected that something was wrong, very wrong. The founder, Catherine Engelbrecht, working with Gregg Philips and a team of computer analysts, came up with a very clever way to determine whether there was fraud. They suspected as much, thanks to the way in which Democrats in key states used COVID as an excuse to increase absentee voting. That included states which allowed only absentee voting with drop boxes across cities and towns, where there had been massive ballot harvesting. That is, people, both real and fake, didn’t fill out their own ballots. Instead, they were collected, completed, and put into drop boxes by partisan and paid activists.

To prove this theory, True the Vote obtained geo-tracking information for major urban areas in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona, allowing them to follow cell phone signals. They marked all the drop boxes and all the facilities for left-wing non-profits. They then looked for cell phones that traveled between the non-profits and drop boxes at least ten times (to be sure to winnow out statistical noise). Through FOIA requests, they also obtained as many videos as they could showing people stuffing multiple ballots into the drop boxes, a completely illegal act.

Their data revealed 2,200 mules in just five cities, visiting between 20 and 45 drop boxes each, at which they dropped off an average of five ballots. When you do the math, the numbers are staggering: https://electionfraud20.org/2000-mules/

They only get worse when you contemplate the fact that 10 trips per mule is an exceptionally high bar and that these were just mules in five cities. When one considers the small margin by which Biden “won” in the disputed states, had these mules not been active, Trump would have won the election by a medium to huge margin.

D’Souza also speaks to Hans von Spakovsky about the various methods of committing election fraud and to a think-tank head (whose name I forgot to note down) who explains how various leftist non-profits, helped with Zuckerberg’s $419,000,000 handout, focused on creating voters, rather than promoting their candidate.

The movie is clear and competent: D’Souza carefully walks Engelbrecht and Philips through their methodology and findings. He also talks to well-known Salem Radio* hosts (Sebastian Gorka, Dennis Prager, Charlie Kirk, Larry Elder, and Eric Metaxas) to gauge the effect information had on their preconceived ideas about election fraud. All but Prager suspected fraud before seeing the evidence and felt that the data proved it. As for Prager, he went from being agnostic to believing that there was indeed significant fraud in the election.

As for me, I’ve long felt that Biden could only have attained the White House through fraud, for the reasons mentioned above, so the evidence True the Vote gathered merely confirmed my suspicions. However, I was left with two questions.

The first was which left-wing organizations made the fraud happen. The movie never names them, presumably because they are being investigated or because D’Souza wants to avoid a defamation suit. Both are good reasons but not identifying them diminished the movie a little.

Second, and more importantly, the movie failed to explain what happened the night of the election. As best as I could tell (and I could be completely wrong about this), the mules were operating for days or even weeks before the election—as opposed to frantic drop box fraud the night of the election itself. Assuming my version of events, on the night of the election, in all the jurisdictions in which the mules were at work, Trump had a compelling lead as of 11 at night. And then, in each of those jurisdictions, something happened that had never happened before: The counting stopped.

When it resumed, Biden was magically in the lead. Did the mules affect those numbers too? Or was it the case that, even with help from the mules, the numbers still didn’t add up for Biden, so the Democrats had to go to Plan B?

(By the way, AP immediately “fact checked” the movie. I didn’t find the “fact check” compelling because it ignored something important: True the Vote didn’t just look at people who repeatedly went near a drop box. As the movie carefully explained, it also made sure that the people repeatedly went to leftist non-profits and visited multiple drop boxes. It is a frantic, angry, aggressive, and incomplete “fact check.” In other words, just what you’d expect from AP.)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo..._proves_there_was_massive_election_fraud.html

 

[Nehemiah6]

You're obviously so biased that you simply ignore the truth, even when it is obvious.

It should be crystal clear to anyone who has been following the TRUTH that you are the one ignoring the truth. There was NO INSURRECTION on January 6. That was a false-flag operation to attack Trump and deflect from the massive election fraud.

As to hatred, anyone who backs up the lies of the hate-filled Leftists has no business talking about about hatred. Ever since Trump let it be known that he would run for president, there has been nothing except hatred day after day since 2016, from the same people who are now systematically destroying America. They hate America, the Constitution, the rule of law, Trump, conservatives, and Christians. They hated the idea that he would "Make America Great Again". Now all they want to do is to make America a third-class, third-world lawless banana republic.

 

[jaybo]

It should be crystal clear to anyone who has been following the TRUTH that you are the one ignoring the truth. There was NO INSURRECTION on January 6. That was a false-flag operation to attack Trump and deflect from the massive election fraud.

As to hatred, anyone who backs up the lies of the hate-filled Leftists has no business talking about about hatred. Ever since Trump let it be known that he would run for president, there has been nothing except hatred day after day since 2016, from the same people who are now systematically destroying America. They hate America, the Constitution, the rule of law, Trump, conservatives, and Christians. They hated the idea that he would "Make America Great Again". Now all they want to do is to make America a third-class, third-world lawless banana republic.

Okay, I'm putting you ignore. I don't pay any attention to hatred. Jesus said "love your neighbor as yourself". I choose to follow Him, not you or trump.

 

[ZNP]

ANTIFA

The first Stop the Steal rally I went to was in Washington DC, there were about 100,000 people there maybe more, as we walked to the Supreme court building there were a group of 20 Antifa on the side they wanted a fight but were so completely outnumbered they were simply a joke. Still when we got to the Supreme court there were two of them hiding behind a chain link fence yelling curse words at us. Pretty foul when you consider all the kids that were there. I went home afterwards, but then on the news I learned that these cowards when after women, children and the elderly at night. I went to another rally in DC, one in Atlanta and one in Harrisburg. In every case we were harassed by Antifa but we had security that kept the peace and protected the women and children. In Atlanta Antifa were dressed up for combat, wearing helmets like you have in hockey and having garbage can lids for a shield and baseball bats. There were about 20 of them. Again we outnumbered them 50:1 and we had men walking around with rifles slung over their shoulders so there was no event and I saw women with babies who were calm as could be knowing these men were there to protect them.

But on January 6th Mayor Bowser arrested the security for the rally the night before. In all the rallies nationwide there had not been a single incident where the rally was guilty of violence or even of inciting violence. They were attacked a few times and defended themselves. But they were also threatened at every event. So it was, IMO, irresponsible of Bowser to arrest the Proud boys.

 

[ZNP]

Okay, I'm putting you ignore. I don't pay any attention to hatred. Jesus said "love your neighbor as yourself". I choose to follow Him, not you or trump.

Let me see if I got this right, you were an outspoken atheist, God did not put you on ignore and you did get saved.

But you are saying you are following the Lord's command?

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Are you referring to January 6th? 884 people were charged with crimes. You cannot say that all of them were Christians. But maybe 500 were. There were at least 500,000 to 1,000,000 at that rally. This means that 99.9% of the people at the rally were not charged with a crime. Enough with the slander. Entering the capitol after police moved aside barricades and waved them in is foolishness. Storming the front door and breaking windows was criminal. But neither of those things were done by 99.9% of those who attended the rally.


They were careful. Even though there were Antifa at every rally trying to create a fight they never had one because they had security, the Proud Boys. However, Bowser arrested the Proud Boys the night before stripping the rally of their security. If we had security they could have prevented the 0.01% of the foolish and ignorant from trespassing.

We aren't here building a Kingdom, Christ did that already and His Kingdom isn't from here. Here Satan will at some point believe himself to have won and it is that point Christ will return and have total victory.

I believe you completely misunderstand my position here. I'm talking about the political as it is, all the way around, not the rally in specific - aka, this is a Christian forum and so I posted speaking to other fellow Christians about our reactions to injustice, and the political in general.