Who is a Jew?

[The_Watchers_2017]

Romans 2
28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

this is for us Gentiles.
Romans 11 is about the state of Israel and what God is going to do with them.
there's a big difference here.

 

[RichGladden]

Paul speaks of both the seed of Abraham (people) and the Nation will be saved.
Romans 11:1 I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Romans 11:26 and in this way all Israel will be saved,

so which ones aren't saved?

Paul includes both ALL people and Nation of Israel will be saved.

Have you that little understanding? Paul is telling you that Jesus didn't reject them, they rejected Him, and gives himself as an example.

Are you even capable of learning?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Have you that little understanding? Paul is telling you that Jesus didn't reject them, they rejected Him, and gives himself as an example.

Are you even capable of learning?

learning what?

why did they reject Him?

if they knew He was the Messiah would they have really killed Him?

why couldn't they see He was the Messiah...could it be because they were BLINDED and HARDENED?

 

[RichGladden]

learning what?

why did they reject Him?

if they knew He was the Messiah would they have really killed Him?

why couldn't they see He was the Messiah...could it be because they were BLINDED and HARDENED?

You know, I would rather have this discussion with a wall. I will get far better results and less density. Go your way and take your shadow with you.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

You know, I would rather have this discussion with a wall. I will get far better results and less density. Go your way and take your shadow with you.

most people when faced with the FACTS run away.
enjoy!

 

[oyster67]

this is for us Gentiles.

This is for every man, woman, and child on the planet.

Colossians 3
9Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

As I said earlier, many Jews will come in at the last hour, but it will be because they will come to the light just like the rest of us have. They will be given one last chance, but none of them will float in without coming to Jesus just like their gentile brethren. The plan of salvation is single.

We do so many seek to complicate the simple plan of salvation that applies to all?

 

[oyster67]

SOME will Believe and SOME will not?

Elementary, my dear Watson.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

This is for every man, woman, and child on the planet.

Colossians 3
9Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

As I said earlier, many Jews will come in at the last hour, but it will be because they will come to the light just like the rest of us have. They will be given one last chance, but none of them will float in without coming to Jesus just like their gentile brethren. The plan of salvation is single.

We do so many seek to complicate the simple plan of salvation that applies to all?

because Paul says when the FULLNESS of the GENTILES take place they will.

why can't they before that?

Paul says God hardened/blinded them.

why is this not acceptable from what Paul said?

it's not their time and Paul said they will ALL be saved when it is their time again.

 

[RichGladden]

This is for every man, woman, and child on the planet.

Colossians 3
9Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

As I said earlier, many Jews will come in at the last hour, but it will be because they will come to the light just like the rest of us have. They will be given one last chance, but none of them will float in without coming to Jesus just like their gentile brethren. The plan of salvation is single.

We do so many seek to complicate the simple plan of salvation that applies to all?

Correct again. And I dare say many Jews will not and get their just rewards. They, like us Gentiles, will have to do it the same way. And get this......they will no longer be just Jews, they will be Messianic Jews.

 

[oyster67]

because Paul says when the FULLNESS of the GENTILES take place they will.

why can't they before that?

Paul says God hardened/blinded them.

Many of the Judaizers will not see the error of their way until after the Rapture.
They could have come to Jesus before that. The offer of salvation is open to all today, but some will not receive salvation until the Tribulation period. Paul has told the total truth and it does not seem complicated at all.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Many of the Judaizers will not see the error of their way until after the Rapture.
They could have come to Jesus before that. The offer of salvation is open to all today, but some will not receive salvation until the Tribulation period. Paul has told the total truth and it does not seem complicated at all.

isn't the Rapture and the Fullness of the Gentiles same thing?

 

[RichGladden]

isn't the Rapture and the Fullness of the Gentiles same thing?

Does the Bible state they are?
Where?
Do they have to be?
Aren't Jews coming to Christ even now?
Does that mean God is a respecter of persons?
Did Andrew Klavan lie about being a Jew converting to Christianity and writing a book "The Great Good Thing"?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Does the Bible state they are?
Where?
Do they have to be?
Aren't Jews coming to Christ even now?
Does that mean God is a respecter of persons?
Did Andrew Klavan lie about being a Jew converting to Christianity and writing a book "The Great Good Thing"?

Oyster mentioned after the Rapture Jews will come to Christ.

so i am asking him since we know they come to Christ at the Fullness of the Gentiles, does HE think they are the same thing?

 

[RichGladden]

Oyster mentioned after the Rapture Jews will come to Christ.

so i am asking him since we know they come to Christ at the Fullness of the Gentiles, does HE think they are the same thing?

They are coming now! Who know when or if? Do YOu? Control you demons!

 

[RichGladden]

Oyster mentioned after the Rapture Jews will come to Christ.

so i am asking him since we know they come to Christ at the Fullness of the Gentiles, does HE think they are the same thing?

That is not what he said. He said they well not see the error of their ways until after the rapture. That is not the same as coming to Christ. Learn to read, no wonder you are having so much trouble.
And no, we do not know they come to Christ at the fullness of the Gentiles. We know that is when the blindness ends. Pray for discernment and reading conprehension.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

They are coming now! Who know when or if? Do YOu? Control you demons!

the ones who are not hardened are indeed coming. but you seem to disregard anything Paul states. the only demon i have seen in this thread is someone claiming to be a preacher whose last name is Anderson. and of course his minions who follow him.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

That is not what he said. He said they well not see the error of their ways until after the rapture. That is not the same as coming to Christ. Learn to read, no wonder you are having so much trouble.
And no, we do not know they come to Christ at the fullness of the Gentiles. We know that is when the blindness ends. Pray for discernment and reading conprehension.

i know what he said and i have a reason why i presented what i did. who are you to interfere in our conversation or suggest you are adequate enough to comprehend?

 

[RichGladden]

the ones who are not hardened are indeed coming. but you seem to disregard anything Paul states. the only demon i have seen in this thread is someone claiming to be a preacher whose last name is Anderson. and of course his minions who follow him.

and you would.

 

[RichGladden]

i know what he said and i have a reason why i presented what i did. who are you to interfere in our conversation or suggest you are adequate enough to comprehend?

Is this not call a thread where anyone can post? Or did you suddenly become god?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

and you would.

it's called the Gift of Discernment, which those who follow Anderson desperately lack!