Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

PennEd

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The Lord's coming is immediately after this union between Satan and Man.

Luke 12:35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. 37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. 38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. 40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

This is a big reveal. What wedding is this? It isn't the Lord's. The Lord is not going to gird Himself and serve his servants when He gets back from His wedding. Also the Lord's wedding would be at His Father's house. This is someone else's wedding and it takes place immediately before the thief comes in verse 39 and 40. We don't know the day or the hour of the Lord's coming but we do know it comes immediately after this wedding.

This wedding is not taking place in the Father's house and it is not something that the faithful servants of the Lord who are watching for the Lord's appearing are involved in. There is a union between two others that the Lord attends and that is the sign that immediately precedes the hour that the thief comes. In fact if you read verse 39 it is not unreasonable to equate the thief breaking into the house with this wedding. At the very least it appears the two happen at the same time.

So then I must conclude that this wedding must be Satan's attempt to usurp man has finally resulted in his union with man. Satan is the thief and man is the temple of God. The thief breaking into the house is a description of Satan breaking into this temple, into man. We have heard that man's genetic makeup has the image and superscription of God on it. You can see the name of God on man's DNA. We are also led to understand that when God said that Noah was perfect it indicated his DNA had not been infected with the fallen angels mating with the daughters of men. The earth was filled with this impure mixture called Nephelim which the flood was sent to wipe out.

Therefore, just as the days of Noah, I suspect this wedding refers to this unholy union between Satan and Man.

The picture is this, Satan is celebrating his union with man, injecting his DNA into man and corrupting man. The servants of the Lord who are watching for His return are guarding the house. Their loins are girded for battle, their lights are lit in this dark night and the house is locked tight which is why they are ready the minute the Lord comes to open up and let him in. In another place we are told that the evil servants of the Lord's house attack these ones who are watching and they went to this wedding to eat and drink with the drunken.

If you want to be part of this one world economic and physical union with Satan you would be at this wedding drinking their koolaid. This is where the adulterers, the fornicators, the LGBTQ+, the sorcerers, and all the brainwashed cult members are. This is where we also would have been had we not been rescued out of this evil age and saved into the kingdom of light.

This wedding is that despicable orgy that Moses came to on Tammuz 17 when he ground their idol to powder and made them drink the bitter water. Moses is a type of Jesus and that is where Jesus is right now. Right now He is grinding to powder their idols and making them drink the bitter water. This will reveal who is guilty of adultery and who isn't. When Moses called who is on the Lord's side the Levites answered immediately. Those are the faithful servants who are girded and have their lights lit and are watching for the Lord ready to open to Him immediately when He calls.
This is very good insight. I’m not sure I’m onboard with everything here, but the general concept is spot on.
 

ZNP

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Sorry to say, that Satan injects his DNA in humans is really nonsense. He dont need to do this. Everybody who is not belonging to Jesus Christ he has already.
Maby you give Satan a little bit to much honor?
Wow, you should go tell Moses because he obviously didn't have your insight when he wrote Genesis.

6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
 

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It is my understanding Moses was guided to put down the Pentateuch as one word, without breaks or punctuation, it was given to him.
 

ZNP

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It is my understanding Moses was guided to put down the Pentateuch as one word, without breaks or punctuation, it was given to him.
If only wolfwint had been there on the mountain with him.
 

wolfwint

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Wow, you should go tell Moses because he obviously didn't have your insight when he wrote Genesis.

6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
This was past, right. And it was not Satan, that were Angels.
What this has to do with the vaccine against Covid?
 

ZNP

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A recent video I saw compares WWII with the Tribulation

Anti Christ -------------------- Hitler
False Prophet ---------------- Pope Pius XII
Beast -------------------------- Mussolini
Mark ---------------------------- Star of David --> Number tatooed to arm
Concentration Camps ------- Re-Education camps
7 years-------------------------- 7 years
Jews Trouble------------------ Jacob's trouble
World War --------------------- World War

Now Hitler had a minister of public enlightenment and propaganda, I can see that during the Tribulation, but the question I have is about the coerced human experiments done under the Nazi's which has become a major reference point in modern bioethics. Ultimately I think you have to say Heinrich Himmler was the chief architect of this research though there were obviously real doctors involved in the research and experiments.

But who could we possibly view today as the chief architect of human experiments that will become a major reference point in bioethics in the future?
 

ZNP

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This was past, right. And it was not Satan, that were Angels.
What this has to do with the vaccine against Covid?
Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. 10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

Satan is a fallen angel. Satan desires to be the most powerful sorcerer in the world.
 

PennEd

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A recent video I saw compares WWII with the Tribulation

Anti Christ -------------------- Hitler
False Prophet ---------------- Pope Pius XII
Beast -------------------------- Mussolini
Mark ---------------------------- Star of David --> Number tatooed to arm
Concentration Camps ------- Re-Education camps
7 years-------------------------- 7 years
Jews Trouble------------------ Jacob's trouble
World War --------------------- World War

Now Hitler had a minister of public enlightenment and propaganda, I can see that during the Tribulation, but the question I have is about the coerced human experiments done under the Nazi's which has become a major reference point in modern bioethics. Ultimately I think you have to say Heinrich Himmler was the chief architect of this research though there were obviously real doctors involved in the research and experiments.

But who could we possibly view today as the chief architect of human experiments that will become a major reference point in bioethics in the future?
This is yet another interesting point.

The Bible tells us that prophecy is not only prediction and fulfillment, but pattern, modeling, or similitude. The entire account of Abraham’s sacrifice of Isaac is perhaps the starkest example. A model of how God would sacrifice His ONLY Son.

I believe 9/11 was a modeling of the fall of Babylon the great.

What you have outlined here could be a similitude of the Antichrist and his attack on the Jews. It was almost exactly 7 years from Kristallnacht to the end of the death camps in 1945.

“Kristallnacht or the Night of Broken Glass, also called the November pogrom, was a pogrom against Jews carried out by the Nazi Party's Sturmabteilung paramilitary forces along with civilians throughout Nazi Germany on 9–10 November 1938.”
 

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Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. 10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

Satan is a fallen angel. Satan desires to be the most powerful sorcerer in the world.
Yes, but if Satan is meant, he is called as Satan. According the word of God there is no Single hint that he belongs to the sons of God which were on earth before the flood.
There is also no Single hint that he will change or DNA in Future through any injections.
And again, what has this to do with the vaccine against Covid?
 

wolfwint

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A recent video I saw compares WWII with the Tribulation

Anti Christ -------------------- Hitler
False Prophet ---------------- Pope Pius XII
Beast -------------------------- Mussolini
Mark ---------------------------- Star of David --> Number tatooed to arm
Concentration Camps ------- Re-Education camps
7 years-------------------------- 7 years
Jews Trouble------------------ Jacob's trouble
World War --------------------- World War

Now Hitler had a minister of public enlightenment and propaganda, I can see that during the Tribulation, but the question I have is about the coerced human experiments done under the Nazi's which has become a major reference point in modern bioethics. Ultimately I think you have to say Heinrich Himmler was the chief architect of this research though there were obviously real doctors involved in the research and experiments.

But who could we possibly view today as the chief architect of human experiments that will become a major reference point in bioethics in the future?
And where are the miracles and wonders of the beast?
The Davidstern was for identify jews not all mankind.
And the allied who saved the jews and finnished the war were Jesus Christ and his army?
Come on,
Thats the result when man think they are wise.
 

ZNP

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And again, what has this to do with the vaccine against Covid?
The vaccine against Covid was an illegal human experiment. It violated the Nuremberg laws to mandate an experimental vaccine. They lied about this saying the vaccine was no longer experimental, yet they gave people the experimental one.

That alone ties this into Psalm 120: 1 In my distress I cried unto the Lord, and he heard me. 2 Deliver my soul, O Lord, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue.


The Psalms are prophetic of each year since 1901 with 120 being 2020, the year of the pandemic. (It would be much too long for me to go into this here, I have covered this extensively in my blog and there is a book on this called "The Prophecy in the Psalms" and I have linked many messages from S4C Global community which covers these prophecies extensively).

Joel tells us that a worldwide pandemic that shuts down the world's economy because God is proclaiming a sabbath rest is a sign that the day of the Lord is at hand. We have had pandemics before, but never one that shut down the worldwide economy.

Revelation tells us that the sorcerers will be severely judged, these are not a few weirdo witch doctors in some tribe in the Amazon or Africa. These guys impacted the entire world and will be judged accordingly. The vaccine was pushed by liars, was a major sign of the Lord's return, and was created in a Frankenstein lab of sorcerers.
 

ZNP

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And where are the miracles and wonders of the beast?
The Davidstern was for identify jews not all mankind.
And the allied who saved the jews and finnished the war were Jesus Christ and his army?
Come on,
Thats the result when man think they are wise.
Many worshipped Hitler and Mussolini, even today.

In the Holocaust 1/3 of all Jews on Earth died.

During the Great tribulation Revelation says that 1/3 of all people on earth will die.

It is righteous judgement, as you have done, it will be done to you.

WWII brought in a new age where the Jews return to Israel.

The tribulation brings in a new age where Jesus reigns in the millennial kingdom.
 

wolfwint

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The vaccine against Covid was an illegal human experiment. It violated the Nuremberg laws to mandate an experimental vaccine. They lied about this saying the vaccine was no longer experimental, yet they gave people the experimental one.

That alone ties this into Psalm 120: 1 In my distress I cried unto the Lord, and he heard me. 2 Deliver my soul, O Lord, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue.


The Psalms are prophetic of each year since 1901 with 120 being 2020, the year of the pandemic. (It would be much too long for me to go into this here, I have covered this extensively in my blog and there is a book on this called "The Prophecy in the Psalms" and I have linked many messages from S4C Global community which covers these prophecies extensively).

Joel tells us that a worldwide pandemic that shuts down the world's economy because God is proclaiming a sabbath rest is a sign that the day of the Lord is at hand. We have had pandemics before, but never one that shut down the worldwide economy.

Revelation tells us that the sorcerers will be severely judged, these are not a few weirdo witch doctors in some tribe in the Amazon or Africa. These guys impacted the entire world and will be judged accordingly. The vaccine was pushed by liars, was a major sign of the Lord's return, and was created in a Frankenstein lab of sorcerers.
Ok this is an pure men made speculation. But no Single proof of it.
Which scripture of Joel you mean?

This vaccine is new, right, and it was not really known how it will effect the people right. Seriously, you would let people die and wait 5-10 years for to find out what effects and danger are for the people.
Please consider, throug the vaccine you get the same sideeffects, but not in such potenz, like through the virus itself.

You can ignore it and believe your sources.

But fact is still that throuh covid much more people died then trough the Vaccine.

100 years ago between 25 and 50 millons people died ( most young people) because of the spain flu worldwide. They had no vaccine.
If the would have the vaccine had they use it even it is without longtime expierience?
They had no choice and the people survived or died.
Today there was a choice. And you now blame them. Because they used a vaccine without longtime expierience. I cant understand such a way of thinking.
You should work some weeks on an Covid ICU.
But you better believe some conspiracy theorys. But you should not expect that these are true.
 

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The vaccine against Covid was an illegal human experiment. It violated the Nuremberg laws to mandate an experimental vaccine. They lied about this saying the vaccine was no longer experimental, yet they gave people the experimental one.

That alone ties this into Psalm 120: 1 In my distress I cried unto the Lord, and he heard me. 2 Deliver my soul, O Lord, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue.

The Psalms are prophetic of each year since 1901 with 120 being 2020, the year of the pandemic. (It would be much too long for me to go into this here, I have covered this extensively in my blog and there is a book on this called "The Prophecy in the Psalms" and I have linked many messages from S4C Global community which covers these prophecies extensively).

Joel tells us that a worldwide pandemic that shuts down the world's economy because God is proclaiming a sabbath rest is a sign that the day of the Lord is at hand. We have had pandemics before, but never one that shut down the worldwide economy.

Revelation tells us that the sorcerers will be severely judged, these are not a few weirdo witch doctors in some tribe in the Amazon or Africa. These guys impacted the entire world and will be judged accordingly. The vaccine was pushed by liars, was a major sign of the Lord's return, and was created in a Frankenstein lab of sorcerers.
Thanks ZNP! I had heard the teaching on the Psalms1 -120 having prophetic meaning before and I appreciate the reminder.
 

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shittim, you are a slanderer. What is your deal with constantly calling Wolfwint a janitor? He is a supervisor of a whole nursing department in a hospital in Germany. You do these personal insults to everyone. Talk about the issues, don't keep building stupid straw men, then knocking them down.

A true Christian, led by the Holy Spirit is an encourager, and lifts fellow Christians and non believer's up! You just smash people down and think you are so smart, when you are a shame to the name of Jesus!
There are many sent to sites like this claiming to be in positions of knowledge & authority which they use to try and add credence to their message.
But when their message is in lockstep with the deceitful message the government, main stream press and social media is forcing down the throats of the general population then anything they say is suspect, including who they claim to be.
 

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Amen, and said better than I have heard before.:unsure:(y):):coffee:
 

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I never denyed Gods word. Eating healthy food is a good thing.
Sadly how many people today have no food? How many millons people have no money to get healthy food? Will you blame them?
Btw I know people who take healthy food, but they got sick with Covid.
So eating healthy food alone protects you not from Covid.
You collect all the Testimonys from people which got sideeffects from the vaccine. Fine,
but for to be fair you should also collect the Testimonys from all those who got Covid.

To trust the Lord is the most important thing.
Would you say, that a Christian who take the vaccine is not trusting God?
Exactly! Why introduce man made instructions to overwrite the instructions that were already written within our genome. Our bodies adapt and we have been deceived into thinking that we need man to step in with his pseudo science (self understanding).
In which way do you disagree Angela? Obviously we mean strengthening our immune system when it’s weak. Unless we should take the jab to weaken our “STRONGER” than normal immune system. Which is not speculation, but fact!

Yes, learning how to reboot your metabolism, gut bacteria, and supplementing with good nutrition and medicinal herbs DO help. A holistic approach vs a man made approach trying to play God.
 

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There are many sent to sites like this claiming to be in positions of knowledge & authority which they use to try and add credence to their message.
But when their message is in lockstep with the deceitful message the government, main stream press and social media is forcing down the throats of the general population then anything they say is suspect, including who they claim to be.
As soon as someone boasts about being smart or an expert I automatically want to ask questions checking the validity of their knowledge and practice. Also I would like to check their scientific background, evolution or creation. Chance or intelligent design.
 

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Thanks ZNP! I had heard the teaching on the Psalms1 -120 having prophetic meaning before and I appreciate the reminder.
There are other correlations.

1. 1/3 of the Jews on Earth died during the Holocaust and according to Revelation 1/3 of those on the Earth die during the great tribulation.

As you have done it will be done unto you.

2. On the 9th of AV Nebuchadnezzar takes the Israelites to Babylon. On the 9th of AV, 2520 years later WWI starts resulting in 20 million deaths.

3. On the 9th of AV Nebuchadnezzar takes Jerusalem and then 2520 years later Hitler is appointed Chancellor.

4. From God declaring judgement in Nebuchadnezzar was 2520 years to the Nuremberg trials.
 

Handyman62

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As soon as someone boasts about being smart or an expert I automatically want to ask questions checking the validity of their knowledge and practice. Also I would like to check their scientific background, evolution or creation. Chance or intelligent design.
Sadly in this day & age higher education produces some of the dumbest people as shown by the talking head experts controlling to many aspects of our lives.