Who is a Jew?

[RichGladden]

Paul said ALL Israel will be saved.

first of all, show me one High Priest during the life of Christ that died in the Holy of Holies?
if you can't, which i know you can't, that means those Jews were SAVED by the offering made in the Holy of Holies.
Paul said God gave a partial hardening. they are SAVED but still hardened to reject Christ.

as a Gentile i do back flips over that because I am SAVED by that hardening and rejection that led to the Crucifixion!

I accept the terms. I cannot show what does not exist.

Now dazzle us with your part!

 

[RichGladden]

Roman soldiers crucified Jesus, not the religious leaders.

Roman soldiers crucified Jesus, not the religious leaders.

While they performed the act, keeping in mind Pilot tried to stop it, the instigators and insisters of the crucifixion lie with the Jews.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I accept the terms. I cannot show what does not exist.

Now dazzle us with your part!

if the High Priest goes into to offer sacrifice for the ENTIRE NATION of ISRAEL inside the Holy of Holies and lives, ALL of Israel is FORGIVEN.

Not one High Priest died during the 33 years of Christ.

so those Jews who rejected Christ were still Saved.

and you cannot say anything otherwise because you know I am correct.

 

[oyster67]

Agreed, with exception

No exceptions.

Paul says they will be forgiven.

...after they humbly confess that the One they crucified is the only door to salvation.


Isaiah 28:16

“Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.”

 

[RichGladden]

if the High Priest goes into to offer sacrifice for the ENTIRE NATION of ISRAEL inside the Holy of Holies and lives, ALL of Israel is FORGIVEN.

Not one High Priest died during the 33 years of Christ.

so those Jews who rejected Christ were still Saved.

and you cannot say anything otherwise because you know I am correct.

Well as history tells us the sacrifice continued until the temple was destroyed in 70ad. The scarlet thread did not change color to white the last 40 years of those sacrifices which would put us around, let's say, the crucifixion?

Now get to the verses our itching ears are yearning for. and stop stalling

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Well as history tells us the sacrifice continued until the temple was destroyed in 70ad. The scarlet thread did not change color to white the last 40 years of those sacrifices which would put us around, let's say, the crucifixion?

Now get to the verses our itching ears are yearning for. and stop stalling

i said while Christ was ALIVE they were still SAVED.

but Paul explains God hardened them and will forgive them when after the Fullness of the Gentiles end.

 

[oyster67]

No exceptions.



...after they humbly confess that the One they crucified is the only door to salvation.


Isaiah 28:16

“Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.”

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

 

[jaybo]

who handed Jesus with FALSE accusation to the Romans?

That isn't what you said! You wrote "the religious leaders who crucified Jesus". They accused Him, but the Roman soldiers crucified Him.

It doesn't help to deny what you previously wrote!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

That isn't what you said! You wrote "the religious leaders who crucified Jesus". They accused Him, but the Roman soldiers crucified Him.

It doesn't help to deny what you previously wrote!

if the Jews were not under Roman Rule would they have killed Jesus themselves?

 

[RichGladden]

i said while Christ was ALIVE they were still SAVED.

but Paul explains God hardened them and will forgive them when after the Fullness of the Gentiles ends.

What Paul said, and what you assume (which I have seen a lot of) are two different things. And what you believe he is saying, you can not provide any scripture to back it up because that would make God a liar. Now present the evidence, or the case is dismissed and not in your favor due to your error!

 

[RichGladden]

i said while Christ was ALIVE they were still SAVED.

but Paul explains God hardened them and will forgive them when after the Fullness of the Gentiles end.

That is debatable. If they were saved, then Jesus is not the truth, the way, or the life. You can't have both!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

What Paul said, and what you assume (which I have seen a lot of) are two different things. And what you believe he is saying, you can not provide any scripture to back it up because that would make God a liar. Not present the evidence, or the case dismissed due to your error!

you are the one twisting Paul's words because he pulled no punches and he begins with:
1 I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be!

you have to call Paul a LIAR to get out of what you are saying!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

That is debatable. If they were saved, then Jesus is not the truth, the way, or the life. You can have both!

they are SAVED by God's Old System until it gets changed by God's NEW System.

 

[RichGladden]

you are the one twisting Paul's words because he pulled no punches and he begins with:
1 I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be!

you have to call Paul a LIAR to get out of what you are saying!

What Paul said and what you perceive are not the same thing. Paul is right, you are not.

 

[RichGladden]

they are SAVED by God's Old System until it gets changed by God's NEW System.

Scripture backs this up? Or is this just another one of your assumptions?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

What Paul said and what you perceive are not the same thing. Paul is right, you are not.

yes, Paul is right especially when he says, 26 all Israel will be saved

 

[RichGladden]

they are SAVED by God's Old System until it gets changed by God's NEW System.

Where is your proof? Show me scripture backing this claim and I will believe. I have already seen you assume much that is not true, so show me scripture.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Scripture backs this up? Or is this just another one of your assumptions?

you are the same cloth as Anderson. you know no High Priest died so everyone was saved and still you try to worm out of the truth.

 

[RichGladden]

yes, Paul is right especially when he says, 26 all Israel will be saved

But you don't understand what Isreal is. Nor do you fully understand when this "saving" takes place. Your beliefs are based on conjecture and hope, but nothing more.

 

[RichGladden]

you are the same cloth as Anderson. you know no High Priest died so everyone was saved and still you try to worm out of the truth.

Name-calling and personal attacks are a clear indication you are losing the battle.