Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

Willow

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This is absurd! By far the great majority of health care providers are decent, caring, honest people who have devoted years of study and practice caring for others. My primary physician is someone whom I respect and I will follow his recommendations for staying as healthy as possible. One of those recommendations is for me to receive the COVID-19 vaccination and boosters; I have done what he said and will continue to do so.
Sadly many get paid for pushing this. Also government push to keep their business open. I sadly would say after being in healthcare over 14 yr.s altogether I have only met a few Dr.'s that are not selling their soul for money. They are retired now.
I had one Dr. years back keep trying to push a medication to a higher dose on my son who is autistic. Even after I told him a smaller dose was making him feel depressed and suicidal . He goes "Oh he needs more!" . He was never suicidal or depressed before it. Found out he was charging medicade for a full hr. for each patient coming in. We weren't even there 15 min. It was behavioral issues and he was pushing the new wonder drug. Later on got in trouble for all the deceit . They do the same in Nursing Homes push med.s .All about money. The government's pushing control and these Dr.s sadly are making alot of money from complying.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Once again, do research and follow the money. This isn't all speculative, but proven within documents, patents, articles, and out of the horses mouth they DO speak. There is a widespread collusion and it's called GREED.

What's disgraceful is how you can just ignore all the information we are giving. Brainwashed sir!
You're acting foolishly, but enough said!
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Even though they didn't have time to fully complete the trials of the earlier vaccines, and they were rushed into use to try and put brakes on the virus that was spreading like wildfire, the historical evidence is that they had a more positive influence and outcome than negative. We need to take a reality check here...what we mere humans are trying to do is work out a defence for something that was brought into being by the all powerful and all knowing God Who is without fault. You roll all of humanity together at one time, our combined power and knowledge to create solutions to problems would be an iota compared to what our God has. So sadly we will fumble, make misjudgements, and modify our understanding to come to terms with reality.
Since when did rushing ever help? We are injecting a foreign substance into a closed system and don't know the long term effects. What historical evidence? There is no long term evidence.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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You're acting foolishly, but enough said!
"Enough said." Agreed, we are just beating our heads against the wall trying to convince each other. Even though we have been presenting evidence, articles, videos, for y'all to take into consideration, which is opposite of foolish. It's wanting to get a better understanding to what is going on around us. Instead of ignorantly accepting what people deem as truth. Sorry, I rather question and research and mainly depend on Yeshua to lead me in Truth.
 

gb9

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"Enough said." Agreed, we are just beating our heads against the wall trying to convince each other. Even though we have been presenting evidence, articles, videos, for y'all to take into consideration, which is opposite of foolish. It's wanting to get a better understanding to what is going on around us. Instead of ignorantly accepting what people deem as truth. Sorry, I rather question and research and mainly depend on Yeshua to lead me in Truth.
trust me, people that have fallen for the covid propaganda will never allow themselves to admit they caved in to the media and politicians, and did what they were told.

and they resent those of us who did not cave in.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in you; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in you: for your merchants were the great men of the earth; for by your sorceries were all nations deceived. (Revelation 18:23) KJV

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φαρμακεία
pharmakeía; gen. pharmakeías, fem. noun from phármakon (n.f.), a drug, which in the Gr. writers is used both for a curative or medicinal drug, and also as a poisonous one. Pharmakeía means the occult, sorcery, witchcraft, illicit pharmaceuticals, trance, magical incantation with drugs (Gal_5:20; Rev_9:21; Rev_18:23; Sept.: Exo_7:22; Isa_47:9, Isa_47:12).
Syn.: mageía (G3095), magic.

Guess Revelation is a conspiracy...
 

TruthSeekerJG

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trust me, people that have fallen for the covid propaganda will never allow themselves to admit they caved in to the media and politicians, and did what they were told.

and they resent those of us who did not cave in.
Which is sad. We must confess and repent (turn away).
 

shittim

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Which is sad. We must confess and repent (turn away).
We must also turn away from those who by their own will, will not see, this is more and more looking the way He is separating His sheep, who hear His voice and follow His guidance from the goats who give first place to the world and it's prince.
Just as the adversary attempts to pervert the created order ever since the fall, many well meaning medical professionals are having professions threatened if they go against the grain of this covid scam.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Sadly many get paid for pushing this. Also government push to keep their business open. I sadly would say after being in healthcare over 14 yr.s altogether I have only met a few Dr.'s that are not selling their soul for money. They are retired now.
I had one Dr. years back keep trying to push a medication to a higher dose on my son who is autistic. Even after I told him a smaller dose was making him feel depressed and suicidal . He goes "Oh he needs more!" . He was never suicidal or depressed before it. Found out he was charging medicade for a full hr. for each patient coming in. We weren't even there 15 min. It was behavioral issues and he was pushing the new wonder drug. Later on got in trouble for all the deceit . They do the same in Nursing Homes push med.s .All about money. The government's pushing control and these Dr.s sadly are making alot of money from complying.
But really Willow, as sad and grieving as your and others experiences are, overall these cases are relatively small in number in comparison to the overall. What seems to be happening with Covid is that because of the significant impact these negative experiences have had on some people, it can blow our thinking out of proportion, and we can start to believe into there is wholesale incompetence or fraudulent behaviour, and collusion happening. That's the groundwork for conspiracies.

I don't trust my GP (MD) out of hand, or any medical service provider for that matter. I do research, I ask them questions, and we to and fro the options. But for most I trust they have my care at heart, or I ignore their advice and don't go back to them. Whilst I'm still compos mentis I have the final say from my perspective, and they have the right to agree or disagree to serve my want.

I choose to wear a mask when in crowded spaces where I live at the moment, even though it is not mandated, because the B.5 version is starting to spread it's wings in Oz again, which is typical of what happens in winter. It's only a minor inconvenience to me, and I would rather do that then possibly cough projectiles loaded with the virus out completely unchecked. Mask wearing, like vaccines, is not a complete solution, but collectively and in general, they have been proven to help protect we people from each other.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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We must also turn away from those who by their own will, will not see, this is more and more looking the way He is separating His sheep, who hear His voice and follow His guidance from the goats who give first place to the world and it's prince.
Just as the adversary attempts to pervert the created order ever since the fall, many well meaning medical professionals are having professions threatened if they go against the grain of this covid scam.
Good insight! Just thankful that we have one another and ultimately the Holy Spirit to guide us. Not man.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Good insight! Just thankful that we have one another and ultimately the Holy Spirit to guide us. Not man.
The only thing that is guiding you and your counterparts, are your vein imaginations. But you can't see that. You've been given over to your own folly. Anyway, I shall put you on ignore so there's no further exchange between us. "Leave them alone".
 

TruthSeekerJG

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The only thing that is guiding you and your counterparts, are your vein imaginations. But you can't see that. You've been given over to your own folly. Anyway, I shall put you on ignore so there's no further exchange between us. "Leave them alone".
Please do so because you need to look in the mirror and make sure your not the one.

This isn't vain imaginations, this is research. Folly? The only folly I see is your ignorance of the facts we've been presenting to you.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Sadly many get paid for pushing this. Also government push to keep their business open. I sadly would say after being in healthcare over 14 yr.s altogether I have only met a few Dr.'s that are not selling their soul for money. They are retired now.
I had one Dr. years back keep trying to push a medication to a higher dose on my son who is autistic. Even after I told him a smaller dose was making him feel depressed and suicidal . He goes "Oh he needs more!" . He was never suicidal or depressed before it. Found out he was charging medicade for a full hr. for each patient coming in. We weren't even there 15 min. It was behavioral issues and he was pushing the new wonder drug. Later on got in trouble for all the deceit . They do the same in Nursing Homes push med.s .All about money. The government's pushing control and these Dr.s sadly are making alot of money from complying.
You and your child have my sympathy.
I sincerely hope you and your boy can turn this around by God's good grace. 😢
Shame on that physician who could care less about your son and push drugs that cause suicide. I can't say how I feel about stethoscope wearing trash like that.
I have met too many autistic children damaged by the MMR, etc. God will judge the crime syndicate that makes money off the suffering of the little ones.

I just prayed for your son's healing.
 

Willow

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But really Willow, as sad and grieving as your and others experiences are, overall these cases are relatively small in number in comparison to the overall. What seems to be happening with Covid is that because of the significant impact these negative experiences have had on some people, it can blow our thinking out of proportion, and we can start to believe into there is wholesale incompetence or fraudulent behaviour, and collusion happening. That's the groundwork for conspiracies.

I don't trust my GP (MD) out of hand, or any medical service provider for that matter. I do research, I ask them questions, and we to and fro the options. But for most I trust they have my care at heart, or I ignore their advice and don't go back to them. Whilst I'm still compos mentis I have the final say from my perspective, and they have the right to agree or disagree to serve my want.

I choose to wear a mask when in crowded spaces where I live at the moment, even though it is not mandated, because the B.5 version is starting to spread it's wings in Oz again, which is typical of what happens in winter. It's only a minor inconvenience to me, and I would rather do that then possibly cough projectiles loaded with the virus out completely unchecked. Mask wearing, like vaccines, is not a complete solution, but collectively and in general, they have been proven to help protect we people from each other.
After seeing first hand is does not I will stick with the proof. But if you choose to wear it that is between you and God. After nurses working 8-16 hr. shifts can hardly breath after wearing the mask and get respiratory infections and bronchitis . Prolonged wearing of the mask is destroying many people's immune systems. It is not an assumption. But observation and fact as in working in healthcare . Where I work they allow alot less strict precautions. We have less people sick. So I suppose I am bias since I have seen on both sides . Prolonged usage causes more damage than it did good. Maybe not for some, but the majority is still struggling from the effects of abusive wearing of the mask.
 

Willow

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You and your child have my sympathy.
I sincerely hope you and your boy can turn this around by God's good grace. 😢
Shame on that physician who could care less about your son and push drugs that cause suicide. I can't say how I feel about stethoscope wearing trash like that.
I have met too many autistic children damaged by the MMR, etc. God will judge the crime syndicate that makes money off the suffering of the little ones.

I just prayed for your son's healing.
Well that was years back . I prayed for God's wisdom on what to do, because he had alot of issues concentrating . He is very high functioning. God laid it on my heart to change up his diet etc. So he then only took vitamins. He is 32 now and works at walmart . He is not on any medications. He can be a little hyper at times. But better then someone on too many med.s who cannot function. These Dr.s have alot of blood on their hands.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Well that was years back . I prayed for God's wisdom on what to do, because he had alot of issues concentrating . He is very high functioning. God laid it on my heart to change up his diet etc. So he then only took vitamins. He is 32 now and works at walmart . He is not on any medications. He can be a little hyper at times. But better then someone on too many med.s who cannot function. These Dr.s have alot of blood on their hands.
Amen, that's wonderful!
I agree 100%
 
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Sadly many get paid for pushing this. Also government push to keep their business open. I sadly would say after being in healthcare over 14 yr.s altogether I have only met a few Dr.'s that are not selling their soul for money. They are retired now.
I had one Dr. years back keep trying to push a medication to a higher dose on my son who is autistic. Even after I told him a smaller dose was making him feel depressed and suicidal . He goes "Oh he needs more!" . He was never suicidal or depressed before it. Found out he was charging medicade for a full hr. for each patient coming in. We weren't even there 15 min. It was behavioral issues and he was pushing the new wonder drug. Later on got in trouble for all the deceit . They do the same in Nursing Homes push med.s .All about money. The government's pushing control and these Dr.s sadly are making alot of money from complying.
You have been working for the wrong people. My wife has been in medicine as an RN (with a Master's degree) for decades so I have direct knowledge of the situation.

Your cynical view of the practice of medicine is disgusting!
 

Willow

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You have been working for the wrong people. My wife has been in medicine as an RN (with a Master's degree) for decades so I have direct knowledge of the situation.

Your cynical view of the practice of medicine is disgusting!
I have first hand knowledge sorry if you do not agree. But it is ok to disagree.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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You have been working for the wrong people. My wife has been in medicine as an RN (with a Master's degree) for decades so I have direct knowledge of the situation.

Your cynical view of the practice of medicine is disgusting!
Guess what?
There are a few people who have had serious life experiences that are different from yours.
Just be grateful that your wife has a good job and that you haven't been provided with a medically harmed child who has had to suffer for a lifetime so some scumbag can make a buck off a vaccine or something.
The Scumbags in scrubs who would harm a child and his family are the ones who are disgusting, NOT the boy's Mom.

"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
 

shittim

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people choosing to act "disgusted" when one shares their experience is what is truly disgusting, the more this scamdemic goes on the worse the adversaries minions are acting.