Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

Inquisitor

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if you do all that ( i have), and take NO vaccine, ( i have not and will not), then you still can not get covid ( i have not).
Don't speak too soon, unless your living in a monastery and your washing your hands.

On the life of living in a monastery; the big question then follows, have you taken the vow of silence?

I bet you did not.
 

gb9

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Don't speak too soon, unless your living in a monastery and your washing your hands.

On the life of living in a monastery; the big question then follows, have you taken the vow of silence?

I bet you did not.

i am not saying what i said above to boast and brag, i am saying that this " if you do not get a vax, you will get covid" narrative is just plain wrong.
 

ZNP

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Well that is a good and bad choice at the same time.

Jesus will do nothing to stop over population.

Where as I can.
Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men

24 Speak unto the congregation, saying, Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.

25 And Moses rose up and went unto Dathan and Abiram; and the elders of Israel followed him.

26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of their's, lest ye be consumed in all their sins.

27 So they gat up from the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, on every side: and Dathan and Abiram came out, and stood in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their little children.

28 And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the Lord hath sent me to do all these works; for I have not done them of mine own mind.

29 If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men; then the Lord hath not sent me.

30 But if the Lord make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the Lord.
 

Inquisitor

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i am not saying what i said above to boast and brag, i am saying that this " if you do not get a vax, you will get covid" narrative is just plain wrong.
As I said before, it's about decreasing the severity of the symptoms in older folk.
 

Inquisitor

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i am not saying what i said above to boast and brag, i am saying that this " if you do not get a vax, you will get covid" narrative is just plain wrong.
On the subject of boasting and bragging. All politicians must boast and brag, how else can you get elected?

The opposition political party is evil and deadly.

Vote for me and your a winner.

Obviously, you are not a political creature.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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One of my daughters had her almost-3-year-old son hit with a flu and covid shot this week, at the prompting of her mom and doctor. 3 years old!!!! He's not my child, but I had plenty to say!
Please pray for the little tyke. I love that boy!!
I'm not meaning to be rude, but that appears to be a severe case of gross negligence on behalf of the doctor, and poor judgement on behalf of the mother. Brings one to tears. Poor little guy!
 

PennEd

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Yes, because frontline workers will spread the virus and catch the virus readily. If I was in Govt I would mandate a lot more than the current govt's mandate. Compulsory exercise, remove confectionary food isles in supermarkets. Ban alcohol, cigarettes, mobile phones, air travel, etc. Vote for me.

Older people must get the vaccine.
Is this some kind of a sick joke?

Everything you cite here is the antithesis of freedom and what psychotic dictators want.

But maybe you really are saying this absurdity tongue in cheek. I can’t tell.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Monkey Pox, HIV.... we contemporary Christians aren't surprised by the outcome, neither was the apostle Paul.

Romans 1:27
New American Standard Bible

"...and likewise the men, too, abandoned natural relations with women and burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing shameful acts and receiving in their own persons (bodies) the due penalty of their error."

And the world is bearing the consequences in their bodies too, because they have gone against God and approved same sex couples as acceptable relationships. Yet worse still, is now we are approving their claim to have a right to bring up children. Unless the world reverses this stupidity, there will be worse to come.
 

Inquisitor

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Is this some kind of a sick joke?

Everything you cite here is the antithesis of freedom and what psychotic dictators want.

But maybe you really are saying this absurdity tongue in cheek. I can’t tell.
Of course I am joking.

Yet, we as a nation that must take those steps and we will in time. Alcohol consumption and cigarettes are being taxed out of existence.

Far too many problem drinkers, pharmaceutical drug addicts, illegal drug addicts, sugar addicts. The list is extensive and someone has to call time on this.

The numbers of overweight people in society is climbing and this means bigger health problems in future.

The number of mental health issues are also rising fast, society is far too complex these days.

The lesson perhaps is that a personal freedom for the majority of people, is not such a good thing.

Given that I believe most people have mental issues to some degree. If you think it's only dictators who have mental issues, then you would be mistaken. Give anyone absolute power over society and you would get much the same result.
 

Inquisitor

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Monkey Pox, HIV.... we contemporary Christians aren't surprised by the outcome, neither was the apostle Paul.

Romans 1:27
New American Standard Bible

"...and likewise the men, too, abandoned natural relations with women and burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing shameful acts and receiving in their own persons (bodies) the due penalty of their error."

And the world is bearing the consequences in their bodies too, because they have gone against God and approved same sex couples as acceptable relationships. Yet worse still, is now we are approving their claim to have a right to bring up children. Unless the world reverses this stupidity, there will be worse to come.
The world has been through some big problems in the twentieth century, no gays around then.

Probably the greatest health problem at the moment is gluttony.

Sometimes, I am amazed at how many dangerous sexual diseases there are out there. So easy to catch one, and two or three of them have no cure. That's not mentioning how many viruses are transmitted through close personal contact.

May I also outlaw hugging, kissing, shaking hands, and these days, socializing.

Do not touch the unclean.

Mwhaaaaaaaaaaaa.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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The thing is, what is being offered as vaccine for the original Covid, the great 19, is not a vaccine. That, is the reason that Pfizer et al cannot be sued or made to answer for their frolic with global health.

Oh you betcha there is a large amount of hot air being passed around and it's getting harder to find fresh air.

I am not a conspiracy theorist. However, what is going on in this and other countries, is, so in your face that some laugh it off as conspiracy. Actually it. It is the devil's conspiracy.
Administrations are struggling to work out a solution. Yes, politicians and pharmas have other agendas than to merely help the populace, such as how can they stay in positions of influence and maintain their wealth, and Satan makes use of those bad traits to cloud and manipulate their decisions. But for anyone to rule the vaccines out as being nefarious or useless, as some seem to be claiming here, is ostensibly wrong and will put the health of the many at risk.

If any of Israel didn't look at the snake wrapped around the pole whilst they were under threat that time in the desert, they died. That's a metaphor for us that we ought give due consideration to in our process of making judgements and passing sentences on vaccines.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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After seeing first hand is does not I will stick with the proof. But if you choose to wear it that is between you and God. After nurses working 8-16 hr. shifts can hardly breath after wearing the mask and get respiratory infections and bronchitis . Prolonged wearing of the mask is destroying many people's immune systems. It is not an assumption. But observation and fact as in working in healthcare . Where I work they allow alot less strict precautions. We have less people sick. So I suppose I am bias since I have seen on both sides . Prolonged usage causes more damage than it did good. Maybe not for some, but the majority is still struggling from the effects of abusive wearing of the mask.
... abusive wearing of masks is not acceptable, I agree. This is why in Oz you can get a letter from your doctor to abstain you from having to wear a mask, to mitigate against that happening. That letter provides you with the right not to wear a mask, and I suspect if the subject is an MD or RN they'll be moved from the frontline to a place where they will be more safe, and the patients and colleagues will be more safe from becoming infected by someone that is not wearing a mask in a high risk environment.
 

Inquisitor

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Goodness...people still catch Covid-19 after getting vaccinated you know that right?
You bet I do. I saw a girl in her thirties who has had covid three times. She said that she is not having a social life anymore, too risky.
 
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I'm not meaning to be rude, but that appears to be a severe case of gross negligence on behalf of the doctor, and poor judgement on behalf of the mother. Brings one to tears. Poor little guy!
True sir. I voiced my disagreement with her and her mom, but the fear of covid overruled. The boy already has severe allergic reactions to certain things and has an EpiPen, and just saddens me. Infants and toddlers should have NEVER been brought into the fray. If some choose to get the shots, that is their decision, and between God and themselves. Just makes me angry.

His grandmother (my ex) has been trying to get me to get them since they rolled out. Told her with my heart, lung and blood clot issues, there was no way ever. She said well, if I wake up with a third arm growing out of my forehead, that would be fine with me.

Knew there was a reason I left that woman :)...
 

shittim

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Leaving her after you saw her horns and tail come out probably saved your soul.:):coffee::giggle::unsure:(y)
 

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... abusive wearing of masks is not acceptable, I agree. This is why in Oz you can get a letter from your doctor to abstain you from having to wear a mask, to mitigate against that happening. That letter provides you with the right not to wear a mask, and I suspect if the subject is an MD or RN they'll be moved from the frontline to a place where they will be more safe, and the patients and colleagues will be more safe from becoming infected by someone that is not wearing a mask in a high risk environment.
I am not a fan of Oz he is an idiot sorry but he is. He told people to wear 2 mask, then was seen out in public not wearing one. In healthcare you do not have that option, at least not in the states. But I am glad ours is more lenient . If you're wearing a mask my thought you should not have to worry about someone else not wearing a mask. So if I don't wear one should not be an issue if as people say the mask works. That is my point my not wearing a mask shouldn't hurt someone who is, other wise as I said the mask really does not work. If people are that scared , I know if I were, I would not go out much. I don't have time to live in fear. Plus for me God showed me 365 times it says in bible do not be afraid. So leaning on him. I am still healing from PTSD , so daily I give all my fears and anxiety to God and move on.I will not let the devil cripple me with fear.
 

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Administrations are struggling to work out a solution. Yes, politicians and pharmas have other agendas than to merely help the populace, such as how can they stay in positions of influence and maintain their wealth, and Satan makes use of those bad traits to cloud and manipulate their decisions. But for anyone to rule the vaccines out as being nefarious or useless, as some seem to be claiming here, is ostensibly wrong and will put the health of the many at risk.

If any of Israel didn't look at the snake wrapped around the pole whilst they were under threat that time in the desert, they died. That's a metaphor for us that we ought give due consideration to in our process of making judgements and passing sentences on vaccines.
Sorry, but that's a horrible metaphor to twist scripture into pushing vaccines. We need to take into consideration if vaccines were even necessary in the first place. How is it that we, as mankind, were able to survive thousands of years without injecting ourselves with a vaccine? Plagues and diseases were used as God's judgment. Now with all this technology I think we became a little prideful in the fact that we can play God and prevent any of these diseases, except at our own detriment ... we're causing more harm than good.

God already laid out His guidelines, which are still proven today. Broken record here, but good nutrition, staying away from unclean diseased filled foods and properly preparing them, and hygiene. Those are staples for our immunity. Not a vaccine which intrudes the system by injection, versus naturally taking in the virus, letting our immune system do it's job, develop antibodies, and spread those antibodies via herd immunity. Well, we might say, what if my immunity was weak? There are many medicinal benefits that we can harvest naturally from God's creation, versus creating a bio-synthetic drug that possibly has the outcome of altering our dna for the bad.

Sorry, if you keep pushing this and throwing our natural alternative view out, then I'm going to keep resisting.