China, War with Taiwan or America?

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Dirtman

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Did the powers that be decide to move the forever war somewhere else?
 

ZNP

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Did the powers that be decide to move the forever war somewhere else?
This war will start with Taiwan, then Japan, then Guam and Hawaii, and then the US will get hit with a surprise attack from Russia.
 

Billyd

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I caution those who may wish to attack the US. We may appear to be a passive nation. If you believe that we are, remember this quote after the invasion of Pearl Harbor.

"I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." -Naval Marshal General Isoroku Yamamoto.
 

shittim

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And we were such a nation at that time, and our enemies did indeed awaken a sleeping giant, since that time we have allowed our industrial capacity to be moved to our enemy. The ccp whose weaponized virus was sent here and the poison vaccine was forced upon our military. The list goes on. It will be a Divine intervention should God keep His hand on us, the remnant who are truly His must keep in fervent, effectual prayer.
Have mercy on us, thou Son of David.:unsure:(y)
 

Billyd

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At the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor, the nation was in the throws of a great depression. The country was also split, and the people were complacent. In a single attack, Japan united the country like no other time in history.
 

ZNP

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At the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor, the nation was in the throws of a great depression. The country was also split, and the people were complacent. In a single attack, Japan united the country like no other time in history.
I don't think Xi is any more likely to invade Taiwan than Russia was to invade Ukraine.
 

shittim

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At the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor, the nation was in the throws of a great depression. The country was also split, and the people were complacent. In a single attack, Japan united the country like no other time in history.
that is what I hear, that the populace was galvanized into unity.
 

Lanolin

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meh dont think so
americans dont grow rice
not really worth it

China investing in Africa and putting in roads and ports there. They dont want US unless US does something stupid and attacks China for no reason. Besides, how can it attack America when its an ocean away, they would only try to protect their own interests. And the amerrican airbases and ports etc are not really american anyway, the ones in the south china sea had already been INVADED by the US Phillipines ,Guam etc.

also, why would China attack US when its the nation with the biggest population that buys most of the stuff China makes? Um...stupid idea!
 

Lanolin

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I always laugh at how US peeps are so paranoid about being attacked. When they pretty much attack other nations all the time, and constantly at some stupid war with them so maybe they should take a look at their own foreign policy first.
 

Lanolin

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China has to sort out its own stance with Taiwan which was part of China to begin with anyway. If they want Taiwan back into their fold, attacking them isnt the way to do it lol

They speak the same language, and Taiwan I dont think is in dire straits the way Japan was when it was being aggressive needing more land.

Its more likely US would invade Taiwan in quest for world domination but actually very little is made in Taiwan compared to China, its just one of the many strategic trading partner routes.

The Chinese are pragmatics at heart so, generally are protecting their own interests rather than try and poke their noses into everyone elses.

besides why is this even news? The important thing is the church in china, and in Taiwan the believers are spreading the gospel no matter what politics are going on.
 

ZNP

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also, why would China attack US when its the nation with the biggest population that buys most of the stuff China makes? Um...stupid idea!
HaHaHa, you are funny. You think China won't attack the US because it is a stupid idea. That is like saying Hitler won't attack Russia because it is a stupid idea.

The Bible says that the Great Babylon will be destroyed in an hour.

So then who is the Great Babylon?

Could it be Iraq? Could you say this about Iraq?

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

No.

So then it is a nation that has made the entire world drunk with the wine of her fornication. Maybe that is talking about Hollywood, maybe it is talking about McDonald's and Coca Cola. China is a "merchant of the earth". What nation has caused China and India to wax rich?

7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Is there any nation that has lived any more deliciously than the US since WWII? Any nation that has glorified itself more than the US? The US has claimed they were the super power. Any other nation try to make that claim? The US has boasted how we fight wars on foreign soil, we don't fight wars on our soil. We won't see sorrow. Other countries have famines, we are the breadbasket of the world. Other countries have plagues, we send doctors and Bill Gates to those countries.

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

What country has set up many puppet leaders like they did in the Middle East? Who pays the way for NATO?

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

What is the biggest consumer nation?

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:


What nation has all the deep water ports? Not Russia, not Iraq. This nation makes all that have ships in the sea rich. In the Atlantic? yep. In the Pacific? yep.

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

What nation has deceived all the other nations with their pharmacopea (sorcery)?

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

What nation went around killing and assassinating people all over the earth, whether by the CIA, multinational corporations or with bioweapons? Because after she is destroyed someone is going to lay out the evidence to the UN that this is true. Who, who, who could this be?

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
 

shittim

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Saudi Arabia? The wine is the oil, the prophets slain are those killed by islame , the devil worshipping cult based in Mecca.
 

ZNP

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Saudi Arabia? The wine is the oil, the prophets slain are those killed by islame , the devil worshipping cult based in Mecca.
Babylon has a cup of gold that is filled with filth.

In the Bible God's word is likened to gold. What nation has distributed the Bible around the world? The filth inside would be Hollywood, Coca Cola, and everything that has come with the US Missionaries.

Micah 4:10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the Lord shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.

Is the daughter of Zion in Saudi Arabia struggling to bring forth? The US was where people fled to for the freedom to worship God and to make this nation the light set on the hill.

Isaiah 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.


What nation is the glory of kingdoms? The Chaldeans were famous warriors. What nation has beautiful and famous warriors like our NBA or our Seals?
 

ZNP

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Isaiah 21:19 And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.

Every brick had the image of an idol just as every multinational corporation has its own unique logo.

Jeremiah 25:11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.

Ever since WWII the US has been the chief superpower that all the nations serve. This is what it means to have the reserve currency.

All the vessels of the Lord of gold and silver were brought to Babylon. Were all the people of God and all of God's treasures in His word brought to Saudi Arabia?

Jeremiah 38:3 Thus saith the Lord, This city shall surely be given into the hand of the king of Babylon's army, which shall take it.


Does Saudi Arabia have an army?
 

ZNP

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I always laugh at how US peeps are so paranoid about being attacked. When they pretty much attack other nations all the time, and constantly at some stupid war with them so maybe they should take a look at their own foreign policy first.
You should talk to the Taiwan officials let them know they have nothing to worry about.

 

HealthAndHappiness

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You should talk to the Taiwan officials let them know they have nothing to worry about.

I think this is perhaps a temptation since Taiwan's ally the USA has the weakest leadership in decades...even prior to Jimmy Carter. The CCP might see it as an opportunity to get what they wanted since Taiwan independence. The two temptations would be strategic location and infrastructure. At the same time Taiwan s a big exporter to US.
China looks at things in long term and might be willing to risk war to get that piece of the Taiwan pie.
 

ZNP

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I think this is perhaps a temptation since Taiwan's ally the USA has the weakest leadership in decades...even prior to Jimmy Carter. The CCP might see it as an opportunity to get what they wanted since Taiwan independence. The two temptations would be strategic location and infrastructure. At the same time Taiwan s a big exporter to US.
China looks at things in long term and might be willing to risk war to get that piece of the Taiwan pie.
The problem with the US is that our bonds have dropped by 30%. This is crushing to all these countries that have US debt. They hate it and they see the US spending money, their money, like they have the bosses credit card and drinks are on the house.

But you can't get rid of the US without dealing with their army and CIA. On one hand we print money like it is going out of style and do that on the backs of all these countries that finance our debt. On the other hand we have the biggest, baddest military and the most evil CIA.

This is why the only option is war and the only chance they have is a surprise nuclear attack.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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The problem with the US is that our bonds have dropped by 30%. This is crushing to all these countries that have US debt. They hate it and they see the US spending money, their money, like they have the bosses credit card and drinks are on the house.

But you can't get rid of the US without dealing with their army and CIA. On one hand we print money like it is going out of style and do that on the backs of all these countries that finance our debt. On the other hand we have the biggest, baddest military and the most evil CIA.

This is why the only option is war and the only chance they have is a surprise nuclear attack.
No way!
30%!!!
 

ZNP

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If you bought a 10 year a year ago and tried to sell it today it would be 14% less. However, you will be paid in US dollars which real inflation is at least 18%.

Total US debt is 28 trillion. 30% of that is $8.4 trillion. To some countries that is real money.

Notice how the money our creditors have lost is almost equal to the amount of spending our government has printed in that same time period.