Weaponized FBI and DOJ searching Mar-L -lago

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This is not a joke

The 87,000 new IRS agents are not being asked to show their CPA. They are not looking for accountants. They want people who are physically fit so then can execute arrests, they want people who can handle a gun and are willing to shoot to kill, and the third requirement is to be able to go out in the field and arrest people.

Now you know why they have been so insistent for everyone to turn in their guns. It will be a lot easier for them to "collect taxes".
And people, and seize property.

The FCC are militarized.Have been for years.

There really is no rights to free speech in America. We think we have that unalienable civil right.
However, it clearly is a matter of being privileged when your daring to broadcast via ham 📻 radio is considered pirate radio, and is dubbed illegal.
And when the laws against speaking freely are implied by the existence of our Executive Branches Federal Communications Commission agents have an arsenal, and even with armoured vehicles.

Years ago a ham radio operator was broadcasting his show via live feed to the Net.
His room had sliding glass patio doors and this broadcast was at night.

Outside those doors there suddenly appeared black clad masked men carrying automatic weapons.

The radio operator has his back to the door and doesn't see it. Until they bash in the doors, guns leveled, and force him to the floor. They did not see the camera feeding this live to the Net until they stood him up,in cuffs.
Then one of the agents saw and confiscated the camera. But of course we know about this because people saved the feed.

It use to be on the Net. I can't find it anymore though.

Keep in mind back in the day when people had CB radios and base stations, maybe some still do, the FCC would do the same thing. Particularly if you spoke against the current government.

I know someone this happened to. He's passed in now but it was during the Clinton terms.
The FCC seized everything including his huge CB base station tower antenna. They brought a Sawzall to cut down his huge antenna tower. And a trailer to cart it away. To insure he didn't reinstall.

He did. He continued with base stations, car CB units, to the day he died.

The FCC continued their abuses too.

The FCC monitored his CB activities to the day he was no longer able to get on the air. And would blast the airwaves if he spoke to an unapproved issue so as to clear, shut down, the communications on every CB channel.

Thinking this is a free country is the illusion we live under.

Those in control know better.
 
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So now the Biden administration has two sets of Gestapo thugs -- one in the FBI and one with the IRS. Next he will ask the Secretary of Defense to unleash the soldiers on law-abiding citizens and put them in concentration camps. Joseph Stalin and Joseph Biden are cut from the same cloth (except Obama is Biden's controller).
The alphabet agencies are all members of the Executive Branch.
It is a conspiracy. But that is not a theory.
 

ZNP

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The administration of Joe Biden has taken a unified and consistent response to lawlessness.

Whether we are talking about Joe Biden and His son Hunter, Nancy Pelosi and her husband Paul, Swalwell and his girlfriend Fangfang, the judge who signed the warrant to search Trump and his relationship to pedophiles, regardless of who you are talking about you will see the same unwavering embrace of the rule of the lawless and vicious attack on anyone who would dare stand in their way.
 

posthuman

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A coordinated effort to keep him from being able to run for POTUS again because if he did run, he’d win again ~ for the third time.
no;

an enforcement of the very law he signed, making it a felony to mishandle classified documents.

that is all.
 

posthuman

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18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material


(a)
Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.​
(b)
For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).​
(c)
In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.
 

posthuman

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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

(a)
Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b)
Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

 

ZNP

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18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
(a)
Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

(b)
For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).

(c)
In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.
Has he been charged?
 

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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

(a)
Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b)
Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.om walmart


Man thats a bummer just when it seemed like we were all gonna get to take tv's and stuff if they fired us from Wally world...
 

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no;

an enforcement of the very law he signed, making it a felony to mishandle classified documents.

that is all.
Not allowing his lawyers to witness
no;

an enforcement of the very law he signed, making it a felony to mishandle classified documents.

that is all.
President Trump could have unilaterally declassified every document but did not.

The FBI refuses to show Trump’s lawyers the search warrant.

The FBI would not allow Trump’s lawyers to witness the search.

The same FBI did not perform such a raid against Hillary Clinton and her 33,000 white washed emails.

The same FBI is looking the other way regarding Hunter Biden’s escapades.

The judge who signed off on the warrant donated thousands of dollars to the Obama campaign.

This raid is nothing but a feckless attempt to disparage President Trump. Looking forward to seeing false charges once again being brought forth against an innocent man.
 

iamsoandso

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Not allowing his lawyers to witness

President Trump could have unilaterally declassified every document but did not.

The FBI refuses to show Trump’s lawyers the search warrant.

The FBI would not allow Trump’s lawyers to witness the search.

The same FBI did not perform such a raid against Hillary Clinton and her 33,000 white washed emails.

The same FBI is looking the other way regarding Hunter Biden’s escapades.

The judge who signed off on the warrant donated thousands of dollars to the Obama campaign.

This raid is nothing but a feckless attempt to disparage President Trump. Looking forward to seeing false charges once again being brought forth against an innocent man.

Wait are we talking about another Eric Snowden type conspiracy here?
 

posthuman

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Has he been charged?
is there evidence that he did willfully destroy, conceal, mutilate & remove documents that fall under the jurisdiction of this law?

should he be tried?
should the justice department proceed?
 

iamsoandso

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Yep first we watched the National Archives raid his house and take back 15 boxes of the governments stuff and now the FBI has the gal to come back and take several more boxes of the governments stuff.
 

Snacks

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is there evidence that he did willfully destroy, conceal, mutilate & remove documents that fall under the jurisdiction of this law?

are we paying lip service with respect to persons or do we actually uphold the law?
is there evidence that he did willfully destroy, conceal, mutilate & remove documents that fall under the jurisdiction of this law?

should he be tried?
should the justice department gather evidence?
You initially asked in your post whether or not we respect the rule of law but you have since taken that statement out. I for one respect the rule of law, but only when it’s applied equally.
 

posthuman

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Yep first we watched the National Archives raid his house and take back 15 boxes of the governments stuff and now the FBI has the gal to come back and take several more boxes of the governments stuff.
what is wrong with our justice department, pursuing justice?
there ought to be a law
 

posthuman

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You initially asked in your post whether or not we respect the rule of law but you have since taken that statement out. I for one respect the rule of law, but only when it’s applied equally.
well then.

you should probably be applauding the FBI