Another One Bites the Dust

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ZNP

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Why is Liz Cheney so anti-Trump? Has to do with her father. Please note I did not say the word witch (apart from this can people try to stay on topic instead of devolving into using scripture like fiery darts at each other?) so don't involve me in that.

Video is from '21. She believes, further, that Trump incited Jan 6 'riot'. I don't believe that but that is a divided opinion so don't involve me in that either.

I think she is anti Trump because draining the swamp include revealing the truth about 9/11, that in turn would make her legacy that of a criminal, her father spend the rest of his days in prison, and perhaps the family fortune go up in smoke.
 
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RichMan

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#62
If you are going to stand up against Hitler and I would hope that you would, then learn from Jesus. You are entering the heavy weight ring.

Jude is the book that urges us to get into that ring: 3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

In this book Jude tells us the following:

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
So who was Jude calling "filthy dreamers"?
 
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kaylagrl

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#63
Abortion is evil, saying that is not the same thing as speaking evil of a person.
So Hitler to you was what?


If you take this line of reasoning that abortion is evil therefore everyone who supports abortion is evil, does that mean you would call 45% of Americans evil?
I believe a lot of women,especially younger, have been brain washed considering abortion. Many women who see their baby or hear their heartbeat change their mind before the baby is born. But people like Pelosi and the Dr's who preform abortions, they know the truth, they know its murder and still they push it. Pelosi's own church stands against her.


Do you really think this is what the Lord has called us to do?
Call out evil? You better believe I do.

What about a gang leader who committed evil acts but has since repented and turned his life to the Lord. Was he "evil"?
Absolutely! A Dr. in Conn. was held hostage and beaten, his wife and 11 yr old daughter were raped,doused in gas then they burned down his home, he escaped with his life, his wife an 2 daughters perished. Do I think they were evil?! You better believe it. Do I believe they deserved to be hung for what they did? Yes sir!! And like a pastor friend of mine said, "If they repent last minute, great, they're just gonna see the Lord a little sooner than the rest of us"!!


Do you really think God wants you to call people made in the image and likeness of God evil?
Yes, I believe we are to call out evil, I believe a person can be given over to a reprobate mind. I believe that we as Christians should call that out.
 
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Polar

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#64
I think she is anti Trump because draining the swamp include revealing the truth about 9/11, that in turn would make her legacy that of a criminal, her father spend the rest of his days in prison, and perhaps the family fortune go up in smoke.

Liz Cheney did not loose because of Trump. She lost because of who she really is. No policy...just Trump Trump Trump. She is obsessed. no worries though....they would no more go to prison than the Biden Hooligans or the Clinton crime family

I have and will always believe that term limits would help end the terrorist behavior of so many of these career politicians.

The woman no more looses and she hints at becoming President. So hungry for power and the money that comes with it, she cannot even actually grasp the fact she lost because of the democracy she loves so much.

Throw em all out and start over and that goes for the Federal Bureau of Illicit behavior too
 

ZNP

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You consider Pelosi to be part of the brethren ?
Didn't say that and in fact have answered this question very specifically so there is no justification to guess what I feel on this question.

She has publicly displayed who and what she is , what she stands for, when she publicly repents she will be accepted. At this point in her life , if you consider her part of the your brethren you and she are of the same father .
This is bizarre. Are you speaking on behalf of the Triune God? Or do you think our salvation depends on a vote from Christians?

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
So Hazelponi is waxing eloquent of how the office that the High priest held is the same that Jesus holds and how horrible it is to compare the Speaker of the House, a building called the "Temple of Democracy" to the High Priest, yet you are quoting Jesus saying that they are of their father the devil.

What was the context where He said they were "of their father the devil"

1. In verse 19 they insinuate that He is a bastard.

2. In verse 22 they joked about suicide.

3. In verse 37 He points out they are seeking to kill Him because He spoke the truth to them.

4. In verse 48 they call him a Samaritan and said He has a devil. Spewing insults.

Slandering and insulting others is to "be of your father the devil"
 
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Polar

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#66
what a merry go round. people prefer to insult each other using scripture rather than actually discuss the op

darkness has the hiccups from laughing so much at how easy it is to get believers against each other rather than agreeing on anything

news flash: the Bible was not written to condemn each other

so so tiresome :cautious::cautious::cautious:

Slandering and insulting others is to "be of your father the devil"
so does that mean the dems are of the devil? :unsure: I guess so :giggle:
 

ZNP

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Liz Cheney did not loose because of Trump. She lost because of who she really is. No policy...just Trump Trump Trump. She is obsessed. no worries though....they would no more go to prison than the Biden Hooligans or the Clinton crime family

I have and will always believe that term limits would help end the terrorist behavior of so many of these career politicians.

The woman no more looses and she hints at becoming President. So hungry for power and the money that comes with it, she cannot even actually grasp the fact she lost because of the democracy she loves so much.

Throw em all out and start over and that goes for the Federal Bureau of Illicit behavior too
You asked why she was anti Trump and that was the question I was answering.
 

ZNP

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So Hitler to you was what?
Hitler has been tried and convicted in the Nuremberg trials. He was a mass murderer.

However, I think he is also a type of the antichrist which is to come.
 

Beckie

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#69
The use of scripture to defend any of the dems is just sheer nonsense. Wonder how much ZNP prays and interceeds for the dems. :unsure:

These people are representatives but they act like the kings of old who reigned by supposed authority from God...the 'right' of kings

ZNP is on a roll and honestly, someone needs to quit pushing him ;)

waste of time to defend the actions of liars and demonic leadership in this country. God is indeed merciful but neither is he going to wink at the sin of abortion and all the rest. these people will do just about anything to gain and stay in power...straight up evil desire 101. they scream about loosing the democracy (even tho the US is a republic) yet they are the ones doing their best to turn the country into a communist black hole
When Jesus was confronted with satan, He spoke saying "it is written"
 
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kaylagrl

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#70
Hitler has been tried and convicted in the Nuremberg trials. He was a mass murderer.

However, I think he is also a type of the antichrist which is to come.

In other words, he was evil ;)
 

ZNP

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The use of scripture to defend any of the dems is just sheer nonsense. Wonder how much ZNP prays and interceeds for the dems. :unsure:
I'll answer but it will probably derail this thread. If you are asking me this question don't complain if your thread is derailed. I await your response.
 

ZNP

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In other words, he was evil ;)
How about the two thieves on the cross. They were convicted criminals sentenced to death. I answered your question, you answer mine, were these two men evil?
 
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kaylagrl

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How about the two thieves on the cross. They were convicted criminals sentenced to death. I answered your question, you answer mine, were these two men evil?
Yes sir! We can assume they did something severe enough to warrant a death penalty. What was the difference? One repented.
 

ZNP

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James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

Schindler's list is about a righteous man. He saved 2,000 Jews alive during the holocaust. He was a "doer of the law" and yet if you watch the movie he was not disrespectful or insulting towards the Nazis.

People are under the erroneous thought that calling Hitler evil is to stand against evil.

Schindler pulled these guys out of the concentration camp where they would have been killed to work in his factory building weapons. He sabotaged his own factory so that nothing worked. One of the Jews who was a supervisor was terrified by this and he told him, none of these bombs will ever work to help the Germans. That was how he felt, that was his goal, but he was wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

He truly stood against evil, paid the last penny to save people alive, risked his life, and he was a doer of the law.

Slandering and insulting others is of the devil, it is not of the Lord.
 

JTB

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#75
No one is saving anyone. We are pushing back the tide of Communism. We've been doing it years before Trump, will doing it after he's gone.
You really have no clue what is behind all this, do you?
 
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Polar

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#76
You asked why she was anti Trump and that was the question I was answering.
Huh

I actually thought I was making a statement and you added to it

It's really not all about you yah know ;)
 

JTB

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So men like Dietrich Bonhoeffer were wrong in your opinion? He was a pacifist before he stood up against Hitler. “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”
OK, so Cheney rightfully spoke against the lies and falsehoods of a con man. You yourself fail this test.

And don't take any apologies where none are offered. That too is a falsehood.
 
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Polar

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#78
I'll answer but it will probably derail this thread. If you are asking me this question don't complain if your thread is derailed. I await your response.
Oh don't worry about derailing. that's already happened and yes, you played a part in that :giggle:
 
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Polar

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When Jesus was confronted with satan, He spoke saying "it is written"
Yes He certainly did

However, and I'm not actually dumb even tho I am blond, I have no clue why you bring that up
 
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Polar

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I'm wasting my talent for staying on topic here, so I will just remove my little self so the fur can fly

I know I won't be missed. :giggle: