i'm not christian but i do have some questions
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If God did not give the Religion of Christianity then it is not form God ----it originated from mockers who were under Satan's rule ---the Gentiles -----No Man is Good only God is Good ----therefor Christianity is just a man made term -----All Religions are man driven ----and are the ruination of the True Way -----Religions make up their own rules and traditions and God warns again this -------
And you do not need any Religion of Christianity or being Called a Christian to have the right Faith in God ---you get the right Faith from Hearing and reading the Word of God not any form of any Religion ---
The right Faith is believing in the unseen and Christianity cannot give you that ------only Jesus Who is The Word can give you that -------that is why the right Faith comes from the Word alone ------
Colossians 2:8 NASB
See to it that there is no one who takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception in accordance with human tradition, in accordance with the elementary principles of the world, rather than in accordance with Christ.
Religion keeps your bound to their rules and regulations and their traditions and their ways ------it cannot and will not help you in any way Have true belief in Jesus --
And you do not need any Religion of Christianity or being Called a Christian to have the right Faith in God ---you get the right Faith from Hearing and reading the Word of God not any form of any Religion ---
The right Faith is believing in the unseen and Christianity cannot give you that ------only Jesus Who is The Word can give you that -------that is why the right Faith comes from the Word alone ------
Colossians 2:8 NASB
See to it that there is no one who takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception in accordance with human tradition, in accordance with the elementary principles of the world, rather than in accordance with Christ.
Religion keeps your bound to their rules and regulations and their traditions and their ways ------it cannot and will not help you in any way Have true belief in Jesus --
oh my, what doe the word of God say about Religion? surely it must be evil?
James chapter 1 says :
26 If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.
That religion was called pure and undefiled BEFORE GOD? wow!!!
Do you have a chapter and verse for this? 
I am aware of Acts 11:26b ~
The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
I am aware of Acts 11:26b ~
The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
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Indeed
New International Version
and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with
the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
New Living Translation
When he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. Both of them stayed there with the church for
a full year, teaching large crowds of people. (It was at Antioch that the believers were first called Christians.)
English Standard Version
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church
and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.
Berean Study Bible
and when he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. So for a full year they met together with
the church and taught large numbers of people. The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.
Berean Literal Bible
and having found him, he brought him to Antioch. Now it came to pass that they also gathered together
an entire year in the church, and taught a large crowd. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.
King James Bible
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled
themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
New King James Version
And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled
with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
New American Standard Bible
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And for an entire year they met with the church
and taught considerable numbers of people; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
NASB 1995
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And for an entire year they met with the
church and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
NASB 1977
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And it came about that for an entire year they met
with the church, and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
Amplified Bible
and when he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. For an entire year they met [with others] in the
church and instructed large numbers; and it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
Christian Standard Bible
and when he found him he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the
church and taught large numbers. The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
and when he found him he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught large numbers. The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.
American Standard Version
and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that even for a whole year they were gathered together with the church, and taught much people, and that the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And when he found him, he brought him with him to Antiakia, and they were assembling together for a full year with the church and they taught many people. From that time, the disciples were first called Christians by the Antiochenes.
Contemporary English Version
He found Saul and brought him to Antioch, where they met with the church for a whole year and taught many of its people. There in Antioch the Lord's followers were first called Christians.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And they conversed there in the church a whole year; and they taught
a great multitude, so that at Antioch the disciples were first named Christians.
Good News Translation
When he found him, he took him to Antioch, and for a whole year the two met with the people of the church and taught a large group. It was at Antioch that the believers were first called Christians.
International Standard Version
When he found him, he brought him to Antioch, and for a whole year they were guests of the church and taught many people. It was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
Literal Standard Version
and having found him, he brought him to Antioch, and it came to pass that they assembled together a whole year in the assembly, and taught a great multitude, and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
New American Bible
and when he had found him he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a large number of people, and it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
NET Bible
and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught a significant number of people. Now it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
New Revised Standard Version
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for an entire year they met with the church and taught a great many people, and it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called “Christians.”
New Heart English Bible
When he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. It happened, that for a whole year they were gathered together with the church, and taught many people. The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
Weymouth New Testament
He succeeded, and brought him to Antioch; and for a whole year they attended the meetings of the Church, and taught a large number of people. And it was in Antioch that the disciples first received the name of 'Christians.'
World English Bible
When he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. It happened, that for a whole year they were gathered together with the assembly, and taught many people. The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
Young's Literal Translation
and having found him, he brought him to Antioch, and it came to pass that they a whole year did assemble together in the assembly, and taught a great multitude, the disciples also were divinely called first in Antioch Christians.
New International Version
and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with
the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
New Living Translation
When he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. Both of them stayed there with the church for
a full year, teaching large crowds of people. (It was at Antioch that the believers were first called Christians.)
English Standard Version
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church
and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.
Berean Study Bible
and when he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. So for a full year they met together with
the church and taught large numbers of people. The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.
Berean Literal Bible
and having found him, he brought him to Antioch. Now it came to pass that they also gathered together
an entire year in the church, and taught a large crowd. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.
King James Bible
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled
themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
New King James Version
And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled
with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
New American Standard Bible
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And for an entire year they met with the church
and taught considerable numbers of people; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
NASB 1995
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And for an entire year they met with the
church and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
NASB 1977
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And it came about that for an entire year they met
with the church, and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
Amplified Bible
and when he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. For an entire year they met [with others] in the
church and instructed large numbers; and it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
Christian Standard Bible
and when he found him he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the
church and taught large numbers. The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
and when he found him he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught large numbers. The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.
American Standard Version
and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that even for a whole year they were gathered together with the church, and taught much people, and that the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And when he found him, he brought him with him to Antiakia, and they were assembling together for a full year with the church and they taught many people. From that time, the disciples were first called Christians by the Antiochenes.
Contemporary English Version
He found Saul and brought him to Antioch, where they met with the church for a whole year and taught many of its people. There in Antioch the Lord's followers were first called Christians.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And they conversed there in the church a whole year; and they taught
a great multitude, so that at Antioch the disciples were first named Christians.
Good News Translation
When he found him, he took him to Antioch, and for a whole year the two met with the people of the church and taught a large group. It was at Antioch that the believers were first called Christians.
International Standard Version
When he found him, he brought him to Antioch, and for a whole year they were guests of the church and taught many people. It was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
Literal Standard Version
and having found him, he brought him to Antioch, and it came to pass that they assembled together a whole year in the assembly, and taught a great multitude, and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
New American Bible
and when he had found him he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a large number of people, and it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
NET Bible
and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught a significant number of people. Now it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
New Revised Standard Version
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for an entire year they met with the church and taught a great many people, and it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called “Christians.”
New Heart English Bible
When he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. It happened, that for a whole year they were gathered together with the church, and taught many people. The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
Weymouth New Testament
He succeeded, and brought him to Antioch; and for a whole year they attended the meetings of the Church, and taught a large number of people. And it was in Antioch that the disciples first received the name of 'Christians.'
World English Bible
When he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. It happened, that for a whole year they were gathered together with the assembly, and taught many people. The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
Young's Literal Translation
and having found him, he brought him to Antioch, and it came to pass that they a whole year did assemble together in the assembly, and taught a great multitude, the disciples also were divinely called first in Antioch Christians.
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Where is Christianity in this verse -----and no religion is pure and undefiled-------- only Jesus is pure and undefiled and He Is the Way ------and the only way ----He is the WAY ====if you truly follow Jesus you follow the right WAY
Jesus the Way to the Father
5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
oh really? how did you come to that conclusion? was there a survey on this or do you just know it deep down in your heart of hearts? just like how i believe all christains secretly want to eat babies, just like us atheists. or do you disagree? and what's that? i should listen to the person i'm talking about when they disagree with me on what they think? huh, i never thought of that.
before you say these people think this or those people think that, take some time to recognise people are individuals and not everyone fits the stereotypical whatever, and if you're interested in learning more about how people in a certain group think about certain topics, instead of assuming what they think just ask, that's why i'm asking actual christians instead of assuming that all christians are homophobic, heretic fearing, magic believing and evolution refusing cult members.
before you say these people think this or those people think that, take some time to recognise people are individuals and not everyone fits the stereotypical whatever, and if you're interested in learning more about how people in a certain group think about certain topics, instead of assuming what they think just ask, that's why i'm asking actual christians instead of assuming that all christians are homophobic, heretic fearing, magic believing and evolution refusing cult members.
For starters, it is possible to know there's a Creator God just by looking around at the creation. Evolution has been proven a farce and many evolutionary scientists (those who aren't self-deluded at least) are turning to creationism.
But whether or not the God of the Bible is the Creator, I agree, it's impossible to know—in the natural state anyway. He must reveal it to you; and you must sincerely want the truth.
I hope you find what you're looking for.
Peace.
But whether or not the God of the Bible is the Creator, I agree, it's impossible to know—in the natural state anyway. He must reveal it to you; and you must sincerely want the truth.
I hope you find what you're looking for.
Peace.
no, i am genuinely curious about how actual christians think about these things, since i've never had the chance to ask christians in real life, and in the media i watch christians are often represented as not great at arguing that don't really have any strong arguments for their claims. i am aware these are cherry picked examples to make a more interesting video, so i wanted to know how the average christian thinks about this stuff. i asked how you came to be christian to get a feel for how those who were raised in this religion compare to those who converted, likewise for me asking on questioning your faith. the other 3 questions are just things i felt were represented as not great, so i wanted to ask instead of assuming things.
Your other thread was closed to further replies, so I will respond to this here
I very much enjoyed the time I spent speaking with non-believers of all types. That is not to say it was all pleasant (LOL).
But over all and generally speaking, it was a very positive experience for me. And I learned a lot, too
I very much enjoyed the time I spent speaking with non-believers of all types. That is not to say it was all pleasant (LOL).
But over all and generally speaking, it was a very positive experience for me. And I learned a lot, too
1) i believe i'm a reductionist, especially with unfalsifiable claims like "this is how the universe was made." or "these people think this and if they say otherwise they're lying."
2) most of this seems irrelevant to homosexuality, but that part on oestrogen (what i assume you mean when you say estrogen) is quite familiar, specifically in this video that i'm about to advertise. it's called sex and sensibility, it's about the differences between gender and how those differences are arbitrary.
3) when i say some christians are homophobic, i'm mainly talking about the ones that treat it as a bad thing and compare it to something like alcoholism, PTSD or paedophilia, or try to "fix" them instead of just accepting that their child's gay. saying homosexuals are sinners is like blaming someone for having blue eyes. they can't change that, they didn't choose that, it's just the way they are and saying that the way they are is worthy of eternal torment, bringing them to a "doctor" to try and "fix" them, all under the guise that they're trying to help them get to heaven, doesn't seem too great of a situation.
2) most of this seems irrelevant to homosexuality, but that part on oestrogen (what i assume you mean when you say estrogen) is quite familiar, specifically in this video that i'm about to advertise. it's called sex and sensibility, it's about the differences between gender and how those differences are arbitrary.
3) when i say some christians are homophobic, i'm mainly talking about the ones that treat it as a bad thing and compare it to something like alcoholism, PTSD or paedophilia, or try to "fix" them instead of just accepting that their child's gay. saying homosexuals are sinners is like blaming someone for having blue eyes. they can't change that, they didn't choose that, it's just the way they are and saying that the way they are is worthy of eternal torment, bringing them to a "doctor" to try and "fix" them, all under the guise that they're trying to help them get to heaven, doesn't seem too great of a situation.
most of my thoughts on christians are based on media influenced by athiests, cherry picked examples, cutting out context etc. so generally i can't come to a conclusion on that alone, but if i had to say, it's not great. generally when i think of the stereotypical christian i think of someone that refuses to listen, ignores the evidence they're asking so often to see and can't comprehend the science they're trying to refute.
you said you don't believe in evolution? why not? it's a phenomena observed in fruit flies and bacteria. their genetic code dictates what they'll grow up into, and through mutation, which has also been observed, this genetic code can be tweaked just a little, and if something were to be changed like a fruit flies wing span that gives them an advantage, they would spread their genetic code more than the fruit flies who through mutation ended up at a disadvantage. and as this happens every generation for millions of years, what once was a fish, can become a lizard, which becomes a mammal which becomes an ape.
you said you don't believe in evolution? why not? it's a phenomena observed in fruit flies and bacteria. their genetic code dictates what they'll grow up into, and through mutation, which has also been observed, this genetic code can be tweaked just a little, and if something were to be changed like a fruit flies wing span that gives them an advantage, they would spread their genetic code more than the fruit flies who through mutation ended up at a disadvantage. and as this happens every generation for millions of years, what once was a fish, can become a lizard, which becomes a mammal which becomes an ape.