Is it a sin to be deceived?

[thefightinglamb]

Just wondering, what are your thoughts?

If you believe someone, and they lie to you...can you be held responsible?

Kind of reminds me of how Eve was deceived.

To what extant can we be held accountable for believes we have when we are deceived...

I am not sure...so share what the Lord shows you all
God bless
tony

 

[NoahsMom]

I THINK THAT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT YOU DO ONCE YOU DISCOVERED YOU WERE DECEIVED, SUCH AS ASKIN GOD FOR GUIDANCE, AND REPENTANCE, THATS JUST MY TAKE THO.

 

[carpetmanswife]

good thought to ponder ..but seeing how eve was decieved and certainly was punished yes i spose we will b held accountable BUT the great condemnation goes to the 'teachers ' they are all held to a much higher standard James 3:1 therefore will be judged much more strictly . so we need to be VERY careful what comes outta our pieholes as noahsmom says * my opinion*

 

[Thaddaeus]

good thought to ponder ..but seeing how eve was decieved and certainly was punished yes i spose we will b held accountable BUT the great condemnation goes to the 'teachers ' they are all held to a much higher standard James 3:1 therefore will be judged much more strictly . so we need to be VERY careful what comes outta our pieholes as noahsmom says * my opinion*

No it is not a sin to be deceived , good question though , makes one think , true that eve was deceived but sin was not inputed to her but rather adam:

Ro 5:14Nevertheless death reigned from ADAM to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of ADAM's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.1co 15:22For as in ADAM all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
so eve was punished because she was part of the sin, Ac 17:30And the times of this IGNORANCE God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:being deceived is not the sin but rather to deceive is the sin

 

[carpetmanswife]

she was punished for her disobedience as well...so makes ya wonder...yeah well i made my point about teachers recievein the greater condemnation in another thread

 

[MahogonySnail]

I would say that sin is deception. Every sin a person commits is out of being deceived in one way or another.

 

[carpetmanswife]

I would say that sin is deception. Every sin a person commits is out of being deceived in one way or another.

or selfish..............and selfishness is sin so ...ok got me there ...talked my way thru that one ..lol

 

[BLC]

No it is not a sin to be deceived , good question though , makes one think , true that eve was deceived but sin was not inputed to her but rather adam:

Ro 5:14Nevertheless death reigned from ADAM to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of ADAM's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.1co 15:22For as in ADAM all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
so eve was punished because she was part of the sin, Ac 17:30And the times of this IGNORANCE God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:being deceived is not the sin but rather to deceive is the sin

(1Tim 2:14) 'And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression'.

Since when is transgression not sin?

(1John 3:4) 'Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law'.

I can't even fathom for a moment, that anyone would think that deception or being deceived is not sin.

We were conceived in sin and shapen in iniquity (Ps 51:5) with a sick head and a deceitful and desperately wicked heart (Is 1:5, Jer 17:9). We go astray as soon as we are born, speaking lies (Ps 58:3). Has anyone really looked up the word 'deceive' to see what it means, how it is applied and where it is used in the scriptures?

 

[Thaddaeus]

(1Tim 2:14) 'And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression'.

Since when is transgression not sin?

(1John 3:4) 'Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law'.

I can't even fathom for a moment, that anyone would think that deception or being deceived is not sin.

We were conceived in sin and shapen in iniquity (Ps 51:5) with a sick head and a deceitful and desperately wicked heart (Is 1:5, Jer 17:9). We go astray as soon as we are born, speaking lies (Ps 58:3). Has anyone really looked up the word 'deceive' to see what it means, how it is applied and where it is used in the scriptures?

look at the wording please didn't say she had sinned said was was in the transgression , transgression is not sin, transgression is the fruit of sin or works of sin she was in the results of sin . your own verse 1 john 3:4 shows that sin and transgressions are different. doesn't say that sin was sin of the law

 

[Thaddaeus]

(1Tim 2:14) '

I can't even fathom for a moment, that anyone would think that deception or being deceived is not sin.

?

so you are saying that God will cause someone to sin??? God forbid
2th 2:11And for this cause God shall send them STRONG delusion, that they should believe a lie:

I say it was a good question that should make one think

 

[watchmen]

I voted if you see the truth, but I would add, and continue to accept what you now know in your heart to be untrue.

 

[suaso]

Let's say you have a real, true desire to do good. You best friend has a headache. Wanting to do good by relieving your friend of this headache, you go to your medicine cabinet and grab an unopened bottle of asprin. Your friend takes two aspirn and thanks you for the help before dropping dead seconds later. The problem: back at the ol' asprin factory, some sicko put cyanide in the asprin bottles instead of actual asprin. Whoops. You were decieved by believing that you had in your hands a bottle of asprin, not a bottle of cyanide. You unwillingly killed your friend by giving him that cyanide that you, through no fault of your own, thought was asprin. You only wanted to help your friend not have headache pain. As a result of the sicko at the asprin factory, you have become an instramet of deception and the result is the death of your friend. Have you sinned? No! You have to willingly consent to an action to willfuly allow it to happen, and willingly reject what you believe to be good, thus resulting in sin. If you had know that was cyanide and then given it to your friend, then yes, you would be a sinner for falling for the sicko at the asprin factory's deception.

Eve is responsible for her sin, and Adam his, for openly and defiantly going against a direct command from God himself. There is no reason to think anyone or anything else knows better than God. So, God saying "stay outta the apple tree, or else" is reason enough without explanation. God is the creator, a snake is a creature. Creator > creature 100% of the time.

 

[BLC]

The nature and purpose of deception is when someone is deceived by a lie, they considered it to be good enough to eat or partake of. The tree of knowledge was a tree of good and evil fruit, and God planted that tree in the midst of the garden. The fruit of that tree was off limits to Adam and his wife but not to the serpent. If they ate of the fruit they would die. The wages of sin is death (Rom 6:23). Sin is the fruit of deception and death is the result of sin. If sin is the fruit of deception then deception is the tree that bore the fruit. The tree of knowledge was a tree of deception that involved the knowledge and fruit of good and evil. Deception has a good part and an evil part and the end result for both is always death. Read the following;

Deut 30:18-30 'I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it. I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them'.

Human righteousness, in all of its forms is produced from the good part of the tree of knowledge. Unrighteousness, in all of its forms, is produced from the evil part of the same tree. God's righteousness comes from God and is the fruit the tree of life (Prov 11:3, 3:18, 15:3,4, Rev 2:7, 22:2,14,15). Sin entered into the world because of the fruit of good and evil that was consumed through disobedience. Sin entered through deception that lead to disobedience and the entire human race was conceived in that sin and shapened in the iniquity of it (Ps 51:5). Yes, deception is sin and the result is death.

 

[jaylynn83]

I think the situation with eve was different because she and adam were told specifically not to eat the fruit from a certain tree, she did it anyways, i dont look at it as her being decieved i look at it as she just blatantly disobeyed... ... I feel like, if you no absolutely no better, and some one tells you something and there lying, and you believe them... how are you to be held responsible?? i dunno maybe im not reading the question correctly, thats just what i think

 

[worldlover]

usually we get deceived by people if we haven't found ourselves and doesn't know who to rely with and ultimately when we don't know what's right and wrong...i think

 

[NoahsDad]

The sad thing about being decieved ,Is you dont know youre decieved.
Till your eyes are opened,then youre imbarassed,some even choose to remain in deception rather than face the fact they were wrong,then that becomes pride,which is satans sin,SCARRRRY!
gotta go with BLC on this one tho

 

[iwant2serve]

To be deceived is to believe in a lie. if you don't know the truth then you are not held accountable. But once you have been elightened of the truth then you have sinned. As for Adam and Eve the sin happened when Adam ate of the tree. Adam told Eve not to eat of the tree. Adam was told by God.