Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Moses - A type of Christ

Moses married a Gentile bride before returning to Egypt to save the Jews and bring them up out of Egypt as a nation.

He was 80 when he returned, in the same way Jesus will return with His bride when Israel is 80.

Therefore the "flock of Jethro" on the backside of the desert would depict the church.

This would mean that the burning bush on the mountain of God, mount Horeb, where God called Moses and Aaron to go and be the two witnesses, that would be the rapture event.

So then, this is the message to the Jews at the rapture event:

5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. 6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

The rapture is not some kind of Alien abduction, it is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

7 And the Lord said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows; 8 And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.


The message is that God sees the affliction and is come down to deliver.

9 Now therefore, behold, the cry of the children of Israel is come unto me: and I have also seen the oppression wherewith the Egyptians oppress them.


He has also seen the oppression.

10 Come now therefore, and I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt.

The message is not just to the Jews but also to Pharaoh, the ruler of this age.
 

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You have 30 days to prepare


The judgement of the world begins on Tishrei 1, the month of Elul allows the world 30 days to prepare.

It seems to me, and I have had a very hard time with this question, but based on the three times the dove is released from Noah's ark, it seems to me that the rapture takes place two weeks before this judgement begins.

For example why does Moses get to just show up in Egypt and be their leader and representative who goes into Pharaoh? The burning bush must signify an earth shattering event. Many people think it would take the two witnesses a year or more to get a prevailing world wide ministry going. However, if you launch their ministry with an event like the rapture then God could do it in two weeks.

It is like watching the countdown of a rocket. The engines start and the fire comes roaring out before the rocket takes off. In the same way the rapture is like that initial roar of the engine.
 

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Day 1 of this countdown -- What is the message?

Elul began this past weekend

1. The FBI censored the Hunter Biden story prior to the election.

2. Powell says there will be pain with the economy.

3. Bannon says do the math, no way to turn this around.

4. 75% of China's grain crops this year have failed.

5. Lake Mead and Lake Powell are so low they are about to stop generating power.

6. Sixth largest refinery in the US goes up in flames.

7. Biden is going to pay off student loans with taxpayer money, illegally.

8. Russia is threatening nuclear winter.
 

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Elul is the month of Mercy and forgiveness. Moses goes back up the mountain for the third time on the first day of Elul and then he comes down 40 days later on Yom Kippur, judgement day.

So is the two weeks before Rosh Hashanah or two weeks before Yom Kippur, I don't know.

However, it does make logical sense to me that after the rapture there would be a period of time to let that sink in. It could be three days of darkness where the power is down and the internet and global communications are down, followed by the whole world realizing "judgement day is coming"
 

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In the Second year of Joe Biden, the first day of Elul -- August 28th

Haggai 1:1 In the second year of Darius the king, in the sixth month, in the first day of the month, came the word of the Lord by Haggai the prophet unto Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, saying, 2 Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, This people say, The time is not come, the time that the Lord's house should be built.

With the fulfillment of all the prophecies and all the clear signs it is obviously time for the age to come to an end. What is the basis to say this? Because there have been many false claims of the Lord's coming, for example 88 reasons why the Lord returns in 1988. But, ironically, that also is a fulfillment of the Lord's word about false prophets coming prior to His return.

3 Then came the word of the Lord by Haggai the prophet, saying, 4 Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell in your cieled houses, and this house lie waste?


The issue is not about "when the Lord will return" the issue is about what we should be doing when He does return? Do you want to be sitting in your barkalounge in your private home theater? Meanwhile the house of God lies waste? The pastor of the church had a wonderful insight, he went to the city to get a list of homes in our neighborhood that need help. We have been cleaning up the yards of a number of houses in our neighborhood as a result. The church seems small and yet we can put together a crew of 8 people with trucks and equipment and clean up someone's yard in an hour or two.

5 Now therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts; Consider your ways. 6 Ye have sown much, and bring in little; ye eat, but ye have not enough; ye drink, but ye are not filled with drink; ye clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes.

We are seeing all kinds of scary news about how Moloch and Baal worshippers rule the world and are taking action to have complete control over people. How did this happen. Well, a company like Vanguard gives a way for everyone to invest in mutual funds with very low fees. So all your 401k and pension funds go into these mutual funds. Why? If Vanguard owns 10% of a company they get on the board and can control that company. They aren't interested in taking your fees, instead they want to use your money to give them power over all these companies. With that power they will use it to give them more power. So you put your money into a bag, a mutual fund, that is controlled by these evil Moloch and Baal worshippers, just like giving the bag of money to Judas. The bag has holes in it. What does that mean? 20% inflation year to date. If you look at the S&P 500 from the day Biden took power to today you will see 0% increase, however, because your dollar has lost 20% you have really lost 20%. It is a bag with holes.

7 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Consider your ways. 8 Go up to the mountain, and bring wood, and build the house; and I will take pleasure in it, and I will be glorified, saith the Lord.


If you were worshipping the Lord with your resources and labor then we would have a glorious civilization. But what you are seeing today in the US is the result of giving your money to Moloch and Baal worshippers.

9 Ye looked for much, and, lo it came to little; and when ye brought it home, I did blow upon it. Why? saith the Lord of hosts. Because of mine house that is waste, and ye run every man unto his own house.

Many people put their savings into their homes. However, the Lord is blowing on this investment as well. If mortgage rates rise the amount you can sell your house will plummet. I have seen house prices dropping by 120k. The way this works is if I have a house that I bought for 600k I might have 200k in equity, but now when I go to sell if the price drops by 120k my 200k in equity drops to 80k.

10 Therefore the heaven over you is stayed from dew, and the earth is stayed from her fruit.

This is a curse on the middle class. You took care of your house, not God's, you thought this would allow you to leave a blessing to your kids but now God is blowing on it and you are discovering that you are quickly becoming poor.

11 And I called for a drought upon the land, and upon the mountains, and upon the corn, and upon the new wine, and upon the oil, and upon that which the ground bringeth forth, and upon men, and upon cattle, and upon all the labour of the hands.

Stop giving the Moloch and Baal worshippers credit. Yes, they are the ones who are doing it, but they are like the store manager, not the owner. God has called for this. We are seeing massive droughts in the US and China. It is going to have a huge impact on our food industry this year.

12 Then Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, with all the remnant of the people, obeyed the voice of the Lord their God, and the words of Haggai the prophet, as the Lord their God had sent him, and the people did fear before the Lord.

If you are a true worshipper of the Lord Jesus you will turn to Him, repent, and pray before the Lord.

13 Then spake Haggai the Lord's messenger in the Lord's message unto the people, saying, I am with you, saith the Lord.

We don't need to worry about the Moloch and Baal worshippers, the threats of nuclear war, or of famine, or depression, or plague. As long as Jesus is with us all of that does not matter. He is our rock, He is our high tower, we will be safe in Him.

14 And the Lord stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and did work in the house of the Lord of hosts, their God, 15 In the four and twentieth day of the sixth month, in the second year of Darius the king.

So the remnant of the church, those who were taking care of their own house rather than God's house, will repent and turn to the Lord and heed this word by the 24th of this month.
 
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Now there is no such word in the bible as "rapture".
The bible would have used that word if it was perfect. God knew before the foundation of the earth that we in this 21st century would be reading his word and he also knew exactly the different words that we would be using to describe his kingdom and the coming of his Son whether the 1st, 2nd or 3rd or 4th time.

If rapture was a perfect word and fit the description that God intended, he would have used that word. God's word is perfect and complete. Not 99.999999% but 100%.

We seem to mix up man's input and man's thinking with God's written word and thus come out with all types of convoluted results.

We should add nothing or subtract nothing from God's word. It is beyond the ability of men, the natural man to understand the bible, even Einstein was overwhelmed by it, and concluded that he could not become a believer in it. (It just did not make any sense to him)

Many are called but few are chosen. The most dangerous men on the face of the earth are those who know (at least superficially) the word of God. Jude (the book of Jude) spoke about these men who were ordained before the foundation of the world to come into God's people and attempt to spoil them.

Buyer beware.
 

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Now there is no such word in the bible as "rapture".
The bible would have used that word if it was perfect. God knew before the foundation of the earth that we in this 21st century would be reading his word and he also knew exactly the different words that we would be using to describe his kingdom and the coming of his Son whether the 1st, 2nd or 3rd or 4th time.

If rapture was a perfect word and fit the description that God intended, he would have used that word. God's word is perfect and complete. Not 99.999999% but 100%.

We seem to mix up man's input and man's thinking with God's written word and thus come out with all types of convoluted results.

We should add nothing or subtract nothing from God's word. It is beyond the ability of men, the natural man to understand the bible, even Einstein was overwhelmed by it, and concluded that he could not become a believer in it. (It just did not make any sense to him)

Many are called but few are chosen. The most dangerous men on the face of the earth are those who know (at least superficially) the word of God. Jude (the book of Jude) spoke about these men who were ordained before the foundation of the world to come into God's people and attempt to spoil them.

Buyer beware.
This has been addressed repeatedly on this thread.

There is a word Harpazo -- the word means to snatch, take, pluck, catch up, and is what the word rapture is referring to. The word means to seize, to carry off by force, to snatch out or away.

Acts 8:39, 2Corinthians 12:2, 2Corinthians 12:4, 1Thess 4:17

see Matt 11:12, 13:19

John 6:15, 10:12, 10:28, Acts 23:10,

Jude 1:23

Revelation 12:5

There is also a word "redemption of the body"

The word rapture is a reference to a doctrine and is a reference to a latin word.

One of the places this word is used is in the verse "the violent take it by force". Take it by force is "harpazo". You know you are over the target if you have to "take it by force".
 

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Let everyone beware, Pablocito believes in his own variant of Replacement theology (a term that is not found in the Bible), a doctrine that says that God has replaced Israel with the church. His personal variant is "evolution theology" which he explains here:

Post #62 — There Will Be No Future Millennium On This Earth, A False Teaching Of Man

I am convinced that replacement theology is correct not because of the passages that you quote but because of personal revelation from God through the Holy Spirit. Of course I can now verify it through the words of the bible as you have just done in Romans 9 vs 6-8.

But replacement theology is a bit incorrect in it's wording. God really has replaced the Jews of Old with the whole world (Gentiles) but also including them (the Jews of today) in the whole world as gentiles.

So it is not really a replacement but rather a type of evolution where the Jews were a shadow of what the entire whole world was to become.

I find this site a type of convulsion as I become nauseated with the never ending debates that are irksome to God. I have seem this before at another site and I had to leave that site about 2 years ago, when God called me to serve Him.

My aim in my personal ministry is not to prove anything to anyone but to proclaim that Jesus Christ is the way to God and to lift up His name and to find more ways than I now am doing to serve Him better.

The rapture pokes a hole in much of his theology (he has been serving the Lord for all of 3 years now). So instead of reassessing his theology he has come to the wonderful conclusion that the word "rapture" is not in the Bible even though it is a reference to Harpazo which is in the Bible repeatedly.
 
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3 Then came the word of the Lord by Haggai the prophet, saying, 4 Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell in your cieled houses, and this house lie waste?
The old testament is the perfect graphic picture of God's workings, but it is only a shadow of things to come, those things to come are already here and we cannot go back to the old testament to be imitating them. The old testament is only to teach us, not to be an example to follow or imitate. Else we would be killing sheep, keeping the Sabbath every week, etc etc etc.

When Jesus taught his disciples and the people he used parables and it is said he did not teach without a parable. You cannot understand the parable literally else you will miss the teaching as the disciples often did in misunderstanding the word "leaven" and others.

Jesus hinted as to how we are to learn. He told Peter "God told you" when Peter answered a very thought provoking question from Jesus.

And that is how we are going to learn everything without exception. We will get it directly from God.

1John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
 

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The old testament is the perfect graphic picture of God's workings, but it is only a shadow of things to come, those things to come are already here and we cannot go back to the old testament to be imitating them. The old testament is only to teach us, not to be an example to follow or imitate. Else we would be killing sheep, keeping the Sabbath every week, etc etc etc.

When Jesus taught his disciples and the people he used parables and it is said he did not teach without a parable. You cannot understand the parable literally else you will miss the teaching as the disciples often did in misunderstanding the word "leaven" and others.

Jesus hinted as to how we are to learn. He told Peter "God told you" when Peter answered a very thought provoking question from Jesus.

And that is how we are going to learn everything without exception. We will get it directly from God.

1John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
I am well aware that you believe in "Replacement theology". You also seem to believe that many of the things that have yet been fulfilled have already been fulfilled.

If the church actually replaced Israel as you propose (or if Israel evolved into the church which you seem to think) then how could it have been an everlasting covenant?

Gen 9:16 -- Everlasting covenant with Noah.

Gen 17:7 -- Everlasting covenant with Abraham

Ex 31:16 -- Children of Israel have an everlasting covenant with God

Lev 24:8 -- children of Israel have an everlasting covenant with God

The word for everlasting means forever, always, continuous existence, perpetual, unending future, eternity.

It is a very serious thing to break a legally binding covenant. The covenant God made with Israel makes it very clear that there are serious offenses and how God will respond, but after a period of punishment it says "He will remember the covenant He made with your ancestors".

Your doctrine is lawless and abhorrent. God does not break eternal covenants. Let every man be a liar and God alone be true.
 
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Let everyone beware, Pablocito believes in his own variant of Replacement theology (a term that is not found in the Bible), a doctrine that says that God has replaced Israel with the church. His personal variant is "evolution theology" which he explains here:

Post #62 — There Will Be No Future Millennium On This Earth, A False Teaching Of Man

I am convinced that replacement theology is correct not because of the passages that you quote but because of personal revelation from God through the Holy Spirit. Of course I can now verify it through the words of the bible as you have just done in Romans 9 vs 6-8.

But replacement theology is a bit incorrect in it's wording. God really has replaced the Jews of Old with the whole world (Gentiles) but also including them (the Jews of today) in the whole world as gentiles.

So it is not really a replacement but rather a type of evolution where the Jews were a shadow of what the entire whole world was to become.

I find this site a type of convulsion as I become nauseated with the never ending debates that are irksome to God. I have seem this before at another site and I had to leave that site about 2 years ago, when God called me to serve Him.

My aim in my personal ministry is not to prove anything to anyone but to proclaim that Jesus Christ is the way to God and to lift up His name and to find more ways than I now am doing to serve Him better.

The rapture pokes a hole in much of his theology (he has been serving the Lord for all of 3 years now). So instead of reassessing his theology he has come to the wonderful conclusion that the word "rapture" is not in the Bible even though it is a reference to Harpazo which is in the Bible repeatedly.

I have come a far way from the time I wrote that first post and after examining it, it is rather crudely written but basically speaks the truth about what I believe. It was spoken in an uncaring manner to those who have opposing thoughts to mine, and I no longer judge or accuse anyone of anything as God has shown me a much better way of addressing others.

We are all a work of progress in Christ as we change into his image. God has revealed tons more to me since that post, opening up the bible due to my diligence in seeking after him.

I cannot share what has been revealed to me, because it is impossible to pass something spiritual from one human head to another human head. I can only repeat incessantly what the bible says such as seek the Lord while he may be found, Today is the day of salvation

and probably most importantly, Proverbs 8:17 - I love those that love me, and those that seek me early shall find me.

Yes, there is a time when it is too late, such as the 5 foolish virgins whose lamps has run out of oil.

The bible is too complex for any man to teach another, and that is why the Spirit of God is needed and is sufficient. Paul the minister to the Gentiles, was the first to show this ability, as he said he did not confer with any of the Apostles or anyone else, concerning God's words to him.

We are in a new era of the last days which John says "This is last time".
In other words this is the end of the end and Jesus told us to watch in the gospels about the end, the signs of the times, such that we will not be caught napping.

Yes we will actually see (spiritually) the coming of our Lord as he comes, as when Noah knew that it was time to enter the Ark.

We are forewarned and it is our duty to be prepared. We have no excuse.
 
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I am well aware that you believe in "Replacement theology". You also seem to believe that many of the things that have yet been fulfilled have already been fulfilled.

If the church actually replaced Israel as you propose (or if Israel evolved into the church which you seem to think) then how could it have been an everlasting covenant?

Gen 9:16 -- Everlasting covenant with Noah.

Gen 17:7 -- Everlasting covenant with Abraham

Ex 31:16 -- Children of Israel have an everlasting covenant with God

Lev 24:8 -- children of Israel have an everlasting covenant with God

The word for everlasting means forever, always, continuous existence, perpetual, unending future, eternity.

It is a very serious thing to break a legally binding covenant. The covenant God made with Israel makes it very clear that there are serious offenses and how God will respond, but after a period of punishment it says "He will remember the covenant He made with your ancestors".

Your doctrine is lawless and abhorrent. God does not break eternal covenants. Let every man be a liar and God alone be true.

I would advise you to go to book of Hebrews 8 & 9. It will tell you everything about the passing and demise of the 1st Covenant which has been replaced at the time of reformation.

Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

The bible cannot be understood by one or two verses but the entire bible comes together as one harmonious whole all in agreement with one another. But it take time and to be truthful time is not something that we have right now as Proverb 8:17.

Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

It is finished, it is over, there is nothing else.

Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

The above verse found in the last book of the bible is not just a statement.

It is a command (similar to God saying - Let there be light etc)

This is the time in which we are living and God's word will not return to him void.
 

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I would advise you to go to book of Hebrews 8 & 9. It will tell you everything about the passing and demise of the 1st Covenant which has been replaced at the time of reformation.

Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

The bible cannot be understood by one or two verses but the entire bible comes together as one harmonious whole all in agreement with one another. But it take time and to be truthful time is not something that we have right now as Proverb 8:17.

Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

It is finished, it is over, there is nothing else.

Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

The above verse found in the last book of the bible is not just a statement.

It is a command (similar to God saying - Let there be light etc)

This is the time in which we are living and God's word will not return to him void.
Yes, I would think that all Christians would realize we have a new covenant. Yes I know we have a superior covenant, we have a better blood, better priesthood, better offerings, and better tabernacle.

That does not mean that the first covenant has been done away with.

Anyone, gentile or Jew can receive the new Covenant. Again, that does not mean that the other covenant has been done away with.
 
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I have broken my own rules of getting into debates, thus I will stop at this time. Debates engender strife and as Paul says filthiness, foolish talking and jesting (Ephesians 5:4).

Thus if you have any pertinent questions, I will address them in a timely manner consistent with godliness if God so permits me.
 

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Luke 17:1-19 -- Lebron, the NBA and Kyle Rittenhouse

17 Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come.

We saw a video of police shooting a man walking away from them 7 times in the back. As a result there were protests that resulted in a lot of damaged property. This video of the man being shot in the back is certainly a “thing that will cause people to stumble”. I have no issue with saying they should not have responded by smashing windows. But they talked to a woman on the street and she said it very clearly, if you want people to stop destroying property stop shooting black men for no reason. That said, it turns out there was a reason to shoot him. This man had attacked police previously with a knife and he had a knife in this incident as well. There was a warrant out for his arrest at the time and he was violating a restraining order when the police were apprehending him and he was resisting arrest. Add to that there were kids in the back seat of the car that could have become kidnap victims. This rush to judgement by Lebron and the NBA was an example of this video causing people to stumble. Anyone responsible for stoking the fire of these riots, you caused people to stumble. This led to the riots where Kyle Rittenhouse shot three people killing two. He was portrayed as a white supremacist militia man who had come from out of town to shoot black people. None of that was true. None. Yet the media that stoked this narrative may have played a role in the deranged murder of six people in Waukesha Wisconsin parade. We are watching people get stumbled through stories and narratives coming to us from the main stream media.

2 It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble. 3 So watch yourselves.

Who caused them to stumble? Without a doubt the video being shown on the mainstream media without context, without background information was the most egregious. I don’t blame someone for videotaping the incident and posting it to a platform like Youtube. But journalists need to exercise responsibility in presenting a story like this. Lebron and the NBA should also share responsibility, not as much as the media because technically it isn’t their job to investigate, but if you are going to claim this is an instance of police shooting black men for no reason you should be sure. Then the coverage of Rittenhouse portraying the shooting as racist even though a white 17 year old shot three white men in self defense was also responsible.

“If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them;and if they repent, forgive them. 4 Even if they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ you must forgive them.”

This is a very tough word. Only Jesus is qualified to say this, I think anyone else would be ashamed to say this. People talk about being transformed into the image of Jesus and "what would Jesus do". This is where the rubber meets the road. The media needs to publicly repent, if they don’t they will simply continue this irresponsible behavior. Lebron and the NBA need to repent. The police need to publicly repent when they are at fault. The looters and rioters need to publicly repent. In the last year we had 2,000 blacks killed with handguns in the US, not by police but by criminals and gang violence. This man that sparked this incident, Jacob Blake, was not killed and shooting him may have actually saved lives. A terrible thing is now taking place, you can have a "settlement" where the victim is paid money without the perpetrator confessing or repenting of any sin. Why is this? Kyle Rittenhouse can sue and get a big settlement. But if the news admitted they lied about this it would open them up to other lawsuits and would impact every single lawsuit against them whether or not the cases are related. This is not justice. Kyle is the tip of the iceberg, they lie all the time, and many of the people they hurt and damage are not able to sue them.

5 The apostles said to the Lord, “Increase our faith!” 6 He replied, “If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be uprooted and planted in the sea,’ and it will obey you.

What is the meaning of the protestors when they want to defund the police? They want this mulberry tree uprooted and planted in the sea. The thought that these protests are not having the desired effect and you need to become violent and destructive is a lack of faith. I heard someone say that they tried peaceful protests with Kaepernick, but they treated him like “excrement”. So let’s make sure we are clear on the facts. Kaepernick opted out of a contract that would have paid him $14 million, presumably because he felt he was worth more than that. There are very few people on this planet, much less the US, that would say a job offer of $14 million is an insult. Saying he was treated like excrement is only valid if there are actually people out there offering $14 million to pay for excrement. Instead of Kaepernick I would use Gandhi as the example of how faith like a mustard seed can see a mulberry tree uprooted and cast into the sea. He once was asked by the British “what exactly do you think is going to happen? Do you think we will just pack up and leave?” He said, “yes, that is exactly what will happen” and that is exactly what did happen. The response of many people seems to overwhelmingly support a just and equitable treatment of all by the police. You have popular support for justice and righteousness. However, claiming injustice exists when it doesn’t and ignoring injustice that does exist undermines any legitimacy. I have heard that the BLM movement has received billions of dollars in donations. Yes, billions of dollars. Have they spent one dollar on the inner city? I and others have looked for evidence that they have and have not found any. Instead the founders have been able to buy million dollar properties for themselves and their families. Also the money given to them was given to the Democratic party. If you care about justice one of the worst things that can happen is to have a phony movement raise billions of dollars that they scam off of people.

7 “Suppose one of you has a servant plowing or looking after the sheep. Will he say to the servant when he comes in from the field, ‘Come along now and sit down to eat’? 8 Won’t he rather say, ‘Prepare my supper, get yourself ready and wait on me while I eat and drink; after that you may eat and drink’? 9 Will he thank the servant because he did what he was told to do? 10 So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.’”

People are upset that Kaepernick didn’t get hired by any other teams to play quarterback. I guess he was expecting a pat on the back and a thank you. If we are servants of righteousness then he was simply doing what he was supposed to do. At the judgement seat of Christ you will be very happy if you can say you were faithful to do your duty.

11 Now on his way to Jerusalem, Jesus traveled along the border between Samaria and Galilee. 12 As he was going into a village, ten men who had leprosy met him. They stood at a distance 13 and called out in a loud voice, “Jesus, Master, have pity on us!” 14 When he saw them, he said, “Go, show yourselves to the priests.” And as they went, they were cleansed. 15 One of them, when he saw he was healed, came back, praising God in a loud voice. 16 He threw himself at Jesus’ feet and thanked him—and he was a Samaritan. 17 Jesus asked, “Were not all ten cleansed? Where are the other nine? 18 Has no one returned to give praise to God except this foreigner?” 19 Then he said to him, “Rise and go; your faith has made you well.”

This is the way it is today. The Lord has shown us the way of faith, how many receive this with thanksgiving? I also am quite disgusted by those who don’t return. Lebron was very vocal and prominent about condemning the police in the entire country as being racist after seeing the Jacob Blake shooting. Has he apologized? Has he returned to say he was wrong? What about the Milwaukee Basketball team, have they? What about the NBA, have they? The ratings of the NBA has tanked because of this. If they do not return, repent and apologize they will continue to be unwell.
 

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We are pilgrims.

Everything on Earth and the works thereof will be burned up. Since that is true what type of person should you be?
 

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Wow, this is what I was looking for!

Revelation 18 indicates that all forms of communication will go quiet and all lights will go out. Hence this chapter tells us there will be a blackout of both communication of electric light. Now think about that for a second, the rapture will take place and as the saints go up the fire comes down.

From that point on there is a "blackout" of both electricity and communication. Could this really be worldwide? Suppose Russia hits the US with a surprise attack, surely the US will get off a counterstrike. If these attacks include satellites involved in satellite communication then yes, we could see a communication blackout worldwide. Now electricity would be knocked out in the countries hit by these attacks. It doesn't mean that some very remote countries would automatically have a blackout. The internet and global communications would go dark immediately. However, if shipments of oil and gas ceased then ultimately many other countries would experience blackouts as well. Not in the same hour as Babylon, but in the near future.

This is very important because the Antichrist cannot come forth as some kind of savior immediately, you would need the power put back on and the communications back up and running. This idea that there is a two week blackout of communications is supported by the dreams and visions of the prophets and now we see it is supported by Revelation 18 as well!
 

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What does it profit if a man gain the whole world and lose his soul?

Revelation 18 is the destruction of this worldwide global economy. So for those who think Babylon here refers to the Vatican, if you blow up the Vatican does that cause the world's economy to collapse?

Also, it is very clear -- in Revelation 18 the merchants say "who will buy our stuff now". So blowing up Vietnam, or Indonesia or even China is not what they are talking about, in that case the merchants and their stuff would be blown up. On Earth today who are the biggest consumers? Surely it is the developed world the "first world". But without a doubt you are talking about the US.
 
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Luke 17:1-19 -- Lebron, the NBA and Kyle Rittenhouse

17 Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come.



I do keep abreast of the events of the day, especially those that draw us closer to the end of the world. But the injustices that abound throughout the world (in the millions) are not to disturb us, and thus take away the peace of mind and joy that God has given to us.

Jesus even said in his Olivet discourse that there will be wars and rumors of wars and that we are not to be concerned about them.

The beggar at the gate of the rich man (Dives), whose sores the dogs licked, and for whom the rich man who went to hell called upon Abraham to send that same beggar to wet his lips with a little bit of water.

It could be concluded that the beggar sitting at the gate of the rich man probably knew nothing about the politics and gossip columns being circulated in his days on earth.

He was more concerned with getting some morsel of grain to come near his lips to quell his hunger. Yet he ended up in the bosom of Abraham in heaven while the rich man, the man of the world, possibly a donator to many wealthy funds benefiting the rich and the politicians was burning in hell.

We are not suppose to involve ourselves in the politics or the social agendas of our day. That is an abomination to God and, yes, God will reward those who involve themselves with the world, with the rewards of worldly popularity, status, and importance but there names will be stricken from the book of life.

Yes, we are in the world and cannot avoid the noise of the world, but we are not to involve ourselves in it as God who is Supreme and Sovereign over everything, has everything under control and actually is working to bring everything to a perfect ending (even though he planned and decreed it all before the foundation of the earth, as per the book of Revelation.)

To believe the previous paragraph that I have written would mean a person would have to have great faith in God, but most do not because they do not know God. To know God is the beginning of wisdom and Daniel states that only the righteous will understand at the end of time.

Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.