Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

We have seen that there is going to be a total collapse of the stock market, 2008 was simply a warning of what was to come. But this has to happen after the rapture because look at this verse. A stock market collapse will have a big impact on weddings, people can't afford to go all out. Also we know there will be a terrible famine, again worse than anything we have ever seen hit the world before, but this must happen after the rapture, because this says they are eating and drinking like nothing has happened prior to the rapture. So then the rapture must take place before the Ezekiel 38 war, because when the world goes to war you aren't "Marrying". We remember all the various love stories of soldiers going off to war leaving their betrothed behind to wait for them.

And knew not -- this means the truth concerning the vaccine, the mark of the beast, the tribulation and all these other things will be hidden from all those in the world. It is incredible, how could the news not cover this? What would they be covering, what some harlot is wearing? Are they talking about games like baseball and football instead of the gathering storm? A flood is about to take you all away and instead of suggesting you get to high ground or get a life preserver we are going to talk about the NY Yankees and the Dallas Cowboys? Wow! So hard to believe.
 

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It is just as it was in the days of Noah

26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

It is amazing how so many people all over the earth are able to tune out what is going on. Pandemic, no big deal, we’ve seen these before. Hurricanes and floods happen every year. Fires in California, that is old news. Climate change, it isn’t real, nothing to see here. The ice is melting, happened before, besides now we can sail through the North pole, saving money. So yes, a judgement is coming, only this time it will be by fire and not flood. Just because you don’t see people getting ready doesn’t mean that Noah and his family aren’t preparing. In the last few months I have seen China preparing for war with Taiwan, Israeli drones and US bombers attacking Iran, and a massive cyber attack by China on our infrastructure. Meanwhile Biden’s focus has been on reversing an Executive order to prevent China from having access to our power grid, opening the border to immigrants during the pandemic, and on destroying women’s sports. The order that men can use the women’s locker room, bathroom, and compete against women is not just going to destroy women’s sports, it will also destroy public school. Noah was a preacher of righteousness right up until he entered the ark. This age we have had preachers of righteousness and will have them right up until the rapture. Right now we see a flood of information coming out condemning the rich and the elite. The Ghislaine Maxwell trial has started, the "Laptop from Hell" book has been released, Durhams' investigation into the FISA scandal is going ahead full steam, and the hypocrisy in the January 6th investigation on the hill is exposing congress while a the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade exposing the hypocrisy and deceit of that first ruling.

28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building.29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.


Why hasn’t God judged us already? Because Abraham is praying that his cousin Lot would be saved. God wants to rescue the very last person that He can before the fire falls. These are the two types of the rapture that the Lord gives us. You have Noah whose focus and labor was on building a boat that would make it through the flood. His entering that boat with his family is a type of the rapture. Imagine you are Noah, you have flocks and herds of every kind of domesticated animal and you have built a huge barn that is an ark. When the flood is over you inherit the entire world. It may seem terrible but it is also the way in which the Lord’s kingdom comes to the earth. We heard the warning and we heeded the warning. In contrast to that Lot also is saved, but what a pathetic salvation. Don’t think that just because you are righteous you can ignore the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah, you will pay the price if you don’t come out from their midst today.

Today they are mandating the vaccine or else you lose your job -- so then "come out from her my people". This is a lawless, perverse generation with a pedophile island where pedophilia and pagan worship are mixed together and all the elites have been caught in this net. They are forcing this vaccine on people, Greece has a monthly fine if you are not vaccinated, Australia has quarantine camps, Germany wants to use the military to administer the vaccine, and Austria has mandated it for everyone. Canada says you cannot take a train or plane without the vaccine and Scandinavia has little RFID chips that can be implanted in your hand so that your credit card and vaccine passport can all be kept there. China has put entire cities under lockdown. These are all test cases on how to implement the mark of the beast. How do you get 8 billion people to take the mark when the Bible clearly says you will lose your salvation if you do? Give them an offer they can't refuse.
 

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Apostasy -- Hurricane of Satanic deception


1. Truth gets abandoned. -- first sign of the apostasy. 35 years ago they would have 3 sessions, morning, afternoon and evening. Now they want the sermons to be shortened so they cut down to one message a day so they can play golf and go swimming. People no longer love the truth. "Nothing heavy, nothing divisive, keep it light."

2. Almighty God gets pushed aside -- Who needs God if you don't have the truth.

This is why people get blown away, they abandoned the rock.
 

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That you may know that I am the Lord


Ezekiel 9:4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.


God wants to see who is bothered by the sin, everyone else dies.
 

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JESUS EXPLAINS THE THREE EVENTS THAT TRIGGER HIS SECOND COMING--DO YOU KNOW THEM?
 

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If it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

24 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”

The strategy of the evil one is to divide and conquer. Imagine the church is composed of many different saints, all with different gifts, different ministries and some are focused on "driving out demons". They expose lies, corruption, and crimes. They use the law courts, they are involved in fighting against abortion, or election fraud, or political crime families. Satan would have you believe that everything they accomplish is actually his doing. He does nothing but takes credit for everything. But that in turn could cause you to question everything.

25 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand.

Once again, the strategy of Satan is to divide and conquer because this will ruin the church, ruin the kingdom of God. During the protestant revolution the church was divided. Then with the ecumenical movement there was an effort to unite all the different factions. This ecumenical movement involved compromise. They compromised repeatedly with the word of God and the Bible. This is why we have LGBTQ priests, this is why they are wishy washy on a pro life stance, this is why they don't preach against sin, this is why they have allowed the prosperity gospel to proliferate, this is why we have the apostasy. Dividing the church and then compromising with sin in order to reunite the church is a strategy to ruin the church.

26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?

Now when the church stands up as salt and light it drives out Satan. It may appear that Satan is divided against himself as some corrupt court will find some corrupt elite guilty of sins. This is not a victory for Satan it is a defeat. If you watch a chess match one person will give up a pawn and yet it could result in an advantage for them. There are plays called "sacrifice" or "gambit". Yet in reality most times when you lose a piece it is a loss and not part of some great hidden strategy. The Lord Jesus and Satan are playing chess and Satan is losing. Satan is being driven out and yet he wants to claim that "no, no, this is part of my game winning strategy". Suppose you are Ghislaine Maxwell who has been involved in pedophilia and pagan worship and now you learn from your "god" that he is simply sacrificing you for the sake of some great strategy. That really stinks. In the Lord's kingdom Jesus sacrificed Himself for us. In Satan's kingdom he will sacrifice anyone and everyone to save his own skin. So when we drive out Satan it puts him into a no win situation, he doesn't want to admit it was a defeat that looks bad, on the other hand if he claims it is a victory all those who are being "sacrificed" may decide to double cross others and so Satan's kingdom cannot stand. Joe Biden claimed the exit from Afghanistan was a victory, how do you think that made everyone in the military feel?

27 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges.

This is what is happening right now. Miranda Devine published "The Laptop from Hell". It is sold out everywhere and you can only get it on backorder. This is not a "victory" for Satan, it is a major defeat. Durham is currently prosecuting the FISA warrant scandal. Again, not a victory for Satan, a major defeat. Various states are passing legislation to put a stop to abortion, again not a victory for Satan but a major defeat. We are exposing election fraud in the US, not a victory but defeat for Satan. Dr. Naomi Wolf published "The Body of Others" exposing Pfizer and the vaccine. Not a victory for Satan but a defeat. His entire kingdom is collapsing like a house of cards. In the book of Revelation we see Russia make a major attack but lose only for Europe to emerge as the focus of this one world government. Where is the US? They are Babylon the Great and their judgement comes in an hour, they collapse like a house of cards, their destruction is like that of Sodom and Gomorrah. The elites finance Russia to take out the US and then to be destroyed leaving them in charge. But hey, what about China? The idea that China is a Superpower is based solely on the US being their customer. If a Fortune 500 company loses their biggest customer responsible for 50% of their orders the company is no longer a Fortune 500 company. When the US collapses and no one will buy China's goods anymore then China collapses with it as well.

The Antichrist setting up the one world government, the reformed Roman empire is not a sign that Satan is winning but that his kingdom on earth is collapsing. It is a restructuring deal that takes place after a bankruptcy.

In a chess game many of the moves are forced by the opponent. You basically have no good options. This is what is happening now because of all the corruption and incompetent actions of these world governments. The US is broke, 80% of China's water supply is polluted, crop yields are collapsing, we are on the brink of famine, and economic collapse. Right now they are desperate to get everyone "vaccinated" because it will give them much more control during the collapse. They'll be able to track you and maybe even kill you by simply turning up the 5G. If they can control whether or not you can buy or sell they can control you. They want social credit scores so they can punish anyone who does not obey.

28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

This is the big problem with the current situation. Satan likes to be in the shadows, hidden, so that no one can see him. It is like a snake or a scorpion. They are very effective if their attack is a surprise. However, if you can see them they are at a great disadvantage. We can easily stomp on a scorpion or kill a snake once we see it. Everything that he is doing is bringing him out into the open where the whole world can see their lies, theft and murders. Look at the raid on Mar a Lago, look at Zuckerberg exposing the FBI's illegal involvement in censoring people, look at "Rigged" and "2,000 Mules" and "Absolute Proof". Satan is being dragged out into the open, his lies exposed and we are stomping on him.
 

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Have you ever heard a wannabe Dictator who didn't have the support of the military? What do you think, the military is happy about the wokeness and Biden claiming Afghanistan was a victory and being forced to get that kill shot?

How about the FBI, are they now going to be tossed under the bus to save Zuckerberg or is Zuckerberg going to be tossed under the bus? Already Twitter is imploding over the censoring that took place. Does Biden lose the support of the FBI or of Zuckerberg or both? We are hearing of hundreds of whistleblowers. For the average guy on the FBI how do you feel about the FISA warrants and Struck and Page and being branded with the same brush? Why do you want to burn with them?

Also what about the IRS? You think of them as being CPA's do you normally think of CPA's as Democrats or Republicans? How do you like your agency being turned into the SS to harass Trump supporters?

The same thing with teachers, we think of the teacher's union as being very pro Democrat but a very good portion of teachers are republican, conservative, Christian. These revelations of CRT and grooming are every bit as much a revelation to teachers as it is to the parents. The union always operated on LIFO, Last in First out when it comes to layoffs, now all of a sudden it is WFO, whites are first out. This may encourage some to retire early and it will probably discourage half the country from becoming teachers. Teachers will object to paying dues to an organization that will treat them this way.

Now let's consider Biden's "Soul of America" speech from the gates of hell. First, will this rally his base? People voted for him because "he wasn't Trump", they wanted "dignity" they wanted "peace", they weren't looking for a revolution to demonize half the country. Yes, the most radical faction of the left may want that, but they are a small minority of America. The sixty million or so that voted for him were the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" group. They had no idea what Biden had said in the past, they had no idea about what policies he had pushed, and they basically didn't want anything to bother them from their binge watching TV.

But what about BLM, they certainly were politically active. They have been humiliated and are already starting to bite and devour one another. They see the leaders are rotten and corrupt and they see that the claim this is right wingers saying this is false.

What about the 5 million immigrants Biden let in, many of these are soldiers for the cartels, surely they would look for a fight. Yes, they will fight over turf for selling drugs, Biden uses them for a means to an end and then will dispose of them like they do with Zuckerberg, the FBI or the army. The cartel bosses understand this, they aren't going to let Biden stab them in the back.

OK, so Biden did not rally any troops, but how about the MAGA, did he scare them away? Nope, more people are registering to vote, Trump rallies are packed out, people are disgusted with him. They know the 87,000 IRS agents will target them so they are more motivated than ever to get rid of Biden at the polls in November. Every single person in this country is impacted by inflation every day and they know it is Biden's fault and the Democrats wild spending that is causing it.
 

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We are praying that souls would be reached

It's now to begin, sorrows upon sorrows, a trying of faith, a testing of endurance, to finalize the bridal preparations for those still not ready. Adorn yourself in Me.

Get the sin out. Many hold onto bitterness and unforgiveness, they are demons meant to snare your soul.

you are either fully in or fully out in your walk with Me.
 

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Remember Lot's wife

30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything.

There are two illustrations of the raptures, Noah and Lot. Noah and his family have been focused on preparing for this day for over a hundred years. They built the ark, they stocked it, and it is filled with animals. Lot on the other hand is given a warning the night before. He knows how sinful Sodom is and yet continues to live there. If you have forgotten, Lot is pulled out of Sodom right before the fire and brimstone falls and destroys it. I think by the time the angels come Lot knew that judgement was determined, he didn't need any convincing, but the son in laws laughed him to scorn and His wife had to be peeled away from Sodom and even then, she loved it so much she just had to look back.

Look at this verse: don't try to save your possessions, don't go back to your house for anything? This is not talking about the rapture. When the rapture takes place you will have two groups, the Noah group and the Lot group. Noah is in Hebrews 11 faith's hall of fame. He was a preacher of righteousness. Lot on the other hand was "a righteous man". Lot is like Job at the beginning of the book and Noah is like Job at the end of the book. In the beginning Job's great claim is that he is a righteous man, but when the battle comes from Satan his whole house is wiped out. He was saved by grace but had not put on the armor of God. Noah on the other hand must have had a very tough hide to take the ridicule and jokes and despising for 120 years. Noah was battle tested. Noah had stood tall against all the attacks of Satan and the giants and the fleshly people of that day. Being a righteous person because of the blood of Jesus will get you delivered when the fire falls, but it won't get you raptured. To get raptured you need three things: you must be a good servant taking care of the church and loving the Lord's appearing, you need to have a personal relationship with the Lord where you fill your vessel with oil, and you need to be actively involved in ministry where you are investing the Lord's talent that He has given you.

32 Remember Lot’s wife!

She looked back at Sodom. She actually longed for that sinful world. She almost made it out. To be prepared is to set your mind for the Lord, looking for a kingdom of righteousness. The Lord’s warning is you can’t go back, you can’t even look back. Either you are longing for a world in which righteousness dwells or you aren’t. No middle ground. You need to be careful about what you are "married to". I hope you don't love your job in this sinful world so much that you will have trouble giving it up. I was a teacher, I enjoyed it very much, I felt I had a mission and that everything I was doing I was doing unto the Lord. Things happened that many would be offended at, but I wasn't serving man, I was serving the Lord and so those things were trivial, water off a duck's back. However, when I got the clear word to resign and retire early, I began the process the same day. I was there serving unto the Lord, if He wants me to resign, then I resign.

But this portion of the word also tells us that it is like Noah -- he enters the ark and a week later the flood comes wiping everyone out. It is like Lot, he flees the day the fire from heaven falls and destroys Sodom and Gomorrah. But the contrast is quite stark. There is no hasty flight, Noah has been preparing for this day almost all of his life. He steps into the ark and God shuts the door.

To be a righteous man like Lot you simply need to repent of your sins and receive the blood that the Lord shed on the cross to redeem you from sin. If you are washed by the blood you are righteous, not with your righteousness but with the righteousness of God. But that is not the whole story, you need to have a relationship with the Lord, you need to stop justifying yourself, you need to stop complaining about "Satan's attacks". You have the Lord or All living inside of you so why are you concerned about some trivial attack by Satan? Learn to turn to the Lord, pray to the Lord, stand on the Lord, and witness concerning the Lord.
 

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Look at this again.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Eating and drinking indicates there is no famine prior to the rapture, no fasting, no repentance. Giving in marriage indicates there is no stock market collapse or economic collapse. Marrying indicates there is no draft or major war. However all of that changes in a single day. Noah enters the ark and the flood comes in a day. This is a specific reference to the rapture.

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

The story of Lot gives us a very specific view of this which aligns closely with the story of Noah's ark. Business is proceeding along normally. Buying and selling indicates the currency is the same as always right up to the rapture event, only in this view we aren't seeing a rapture we are seeing fire fall from heaven. They planted indicating that no one is seeing a disaster looming on the horizon. If you were living in Ukraine would you be planting right now? Same thing with construction projects, they can take several years. So people are oblivious to the looming catastrophic events about to hit.

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


Again this is talking about the day of the rapture. They go up fire comes down.

31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.


However, this is clearly not referring to the rapture. If you were being raptured you would certainly not be concerned with the "stuff in the house". There are two kinds who are delivered on this day. You have the ones like Noah who enter the ark and ride above the flood safe in the ark, and you have the ones like Lot who flee the city, leaving everything behind to then go live in caves in the hills.

32 Remember Lot's wife.


Oh yeah, and there are those who are turned to a pillar of salt. She becomes an example, for all to see, that her heart was not set on things above but rather on the things of this earth. Think of a preacher of the prosperity gospel with his gold chains, luxury cars, mansion, and private plane. Not only will they become a "pillar" for all to see, but they will be "salt". Their example will help many others kill that germ of materialism.

I was stunned to learn that this story about Lot's wife is not in Matthew or Mark. The thought is that the 3 gospels are speaking to three groups with the last being first. Luke is speaking to those who are raptured prior to the tribulation, so for them there are these three groups of Christians: Noah, Lot, and Lot's wife. There are also the nominal Christians: the son in laws who mocked Lot.

However, Mark is talking to those who are in the tribulation, the ones like Lot who were delivered. Noah is not there, Lot's wife is not there, the sons in law are not there. So this story is no longer relevant.

Matthew is a book to the Jews who are raptured at the end of the tribulation. Lot is not mentioned so I don't think the fire falls on Israel. This indicates that the US, the "Christian" country which has become Sodom and Gomorrah is where this fire falls. However, the whole world will see the rapture and it is a major sign to the Jews to wake them up.
 

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Look at this again.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Eating and drinking indicates there is no famine prior to the rapture, no fasting, no repentance. Giving in marriage indicates there is no stock market collapse or economic collapse. Marrying indicates there is no draft or major war. However all of that changes in a single day. Noah enters the ark and the flood comes in a day. This is a specific reference to the rapture.

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

The story of Lot gives us a very specific view of this which aligns closely with the story of Noah's ark. Business is proceeding along normally. Buying and selling indicates the currency is the same as always right up to the rapture event, only in this view we aren't seeing a rapture we are seeing fire fall from heaven. They planted indicating that no one is seeing a disaster looming on the horizon. If you were living in Ukraine would you be planting right now? Same thing with construction projects, they can take several years. So people are oblivious to the looming catastrophic events about to hit.

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Again this is talking about the day of the rapture. They go up fire comes down.

31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

However, this is clearly not referring to the rapture. If you were being raptured you would certainly not be concerned with the "stuff in the house". There are two kinds who are delivered on this day. You have the ones like Noah who enter the ark and ride above the flood safe in the ark, and you have the ones like Lot who flee the city, leaving everything behind to then go live in caves in the hills.

32 Remember Lot's wife.

Oh yeah, and there are those who are turned to a pillar of salt. She becomes an example, for all to see, that her heart was not set on things above but rather on the things of this earth. Think of a preacher of the prosperity gospel with his gold chains, luxury cars, mansion, and private plane. Not only will they become a "pillar" for all to see, but they will be "salt". Their example will help many others kill that germ of materialism.

I was stunned to learn that this story about Lot's wife is not in Matthew or Mark. The thought is that the 3 gospels are speaking to three groups with the last being first. Luke is speaking to those who are raptured prior to the tribulation, so for them there are these three groups of Christians: Noah, Lot, and Lot's wife. There are also the nominal Christians: the son in laws who mocked Lot.

However, Mark is talking to those who are in the tribulation, the ones like Lot who were delivered. Noah is not there, Lot's wife is not there, the sons in law are not there. So this story is no longer relevant.

Matthew is a book to the Jews who are raptured at the end of the tribulation. Lot is not mentioned so I don't think the fire falls on Israel. This indicates that the US, the "Christian" country which has become Sodom and Gomorrah is where this fire falls. However, the whole world will see the rapture and it is a major sign to the Jews to wake them up.
If we dig down a little deeper we realize that it is the rapture which changes everything.

Right now we have a drought in China where they are losing 75% of their grain crop. But we have had droughts before, so people in the world assume we'll weather this one as well.

The stock market has dropped 30% but most people are oblivious, they put their money into a 401k and don't really pay much attention.

We are about to see a real estate bubble in China which will affect the entire world, but if you already own your house and have a job it may not seem like much of a danger to you.

But imagine if 5% of the world's population were to be raptured. 5% of the taxpayers gone, 5% of the consumers gone, 5% of the houses are now vacant, 5% of employees no longer there. That would be dramatic if it happened to one country, say Japan, or Sri Lanka. But we are talking about worldwide. You can't control the narrative when this happened in the Philippines, and Nigeria, and Uruguay, and Peoria and New Zealand. Everyone in the world sees this, kids are gone from school, teachers are gone, employees are gone, neighbors are gone, cousins are gone, etc. Everyone in the world is impacted, every business is impacted, every government is impacted. You discover that this 5%, they were the pillars holding up the entire world's economy. Remove those and just like Samson, you cause the whole world's economy to collapse.

One very big measure of economic outlook is consumer sentiment. If 5% of the world is raptured, what do you think the other 95% is going to think? At least half of them will think this was the rapture, Youtube, Twitter, and various online platforms will be filled with people talking about the rapture and the tribulation. If half the world thinks that the world is entering the seven year tribulation then consumer sentiment will be apocalyptically bad.

But it is worse than that, as those in the rapture go up, the burning sulfur comes down. So imagine that at the same time we see the rapture we also see the destruction of the US in an hour. The entire US coastline five miles inland from the coast is wiped out and no longer habitable. It is a one two combination that sends the entire world's economy crashing.

This is what the Lord is saying. It will be life as usual, business as usual right up until the rapture and then it will be like fire falling on Sodom or the flood at the time of Noah. This will be shock and awe on God's scale.

This is why the Lord is urgent that we share and speak these things now. Sure, most will reject and mock, but then once it happens they can't claim it was alien abductions and they will have a chance to repent and turn to the Lord.
 

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The world's economy is like a huge tower, a Jenga tower and way too many blocks have already been removed. Any one of them could easily be compensated for. US stock market down 30%, not a biggy, 25% inflation, again, we could bounce back. Huge real estate bubble in China in the process of popping. That will be worse than 2008 but we recovered from 2008. Massive energy shortage in Europe, that will be horrific, but by next spring it could be fixed. Worldwide food shortage, OK, we will have famine and starvation in the third world, and massive inflation in the developed world, and we will have a recession, maybe even a depression but hey, we had a great depression a hundred years ago and we survived that. Also we will have plague and pandemic on top of all that. Now to top it all off we will go to war because as bad as it is in the US it is far worse in other countries and they would rather fight than lay down and die.

With this incredible teetering Jenga tower imagine what happens when 5% of the population suddenly is raptured along with all babies that are two years old and younger. The world will realize it is the end of the age, it is the tribulation, and everything they mocked and ridiculed was true.

It is at this time that Russia and China hit the US with a surprise attack. When it rains, it pours.
 

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Men's plans will collide with God's plans.
 

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John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
 

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Jimmy Evans | Shocking | Has the End Times started?

The end started when God brought Israel back.

126 examples of when the US tried to divide up the nation of Israel and the natural disasters that occurred.

2005 -- Forced Israel to give up the Gaza strip.

5 days later hurricane Katrina hit the US.

December 2021 an F4 tornado 230 miles long. Hit 4 states in 4 hours. At exactly the same time the Biden administration trying to stop Israel from building houses in a settlement in East Jerusalem.
God says He is mad because you are trying to divide up my land. Therefore Joel 3 is current events.
 

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Where the dead body is there the vultures will gather together

33 Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”

This is referring to the rapture. The Lord is comparing the day Noah entered the ark with the day people all over the world are raptured and the day Lot left Sodom to the day of the rapture. For those that think the story of Noah is a myth you haven’t been paying attention to the major archaeological discoveries made over the last 40 years. This is a very clear reference to the fact that the Earth is a sphere and that at the same moment someone is working in the field or grinding grain, others are sleeping in bed. This tells us something else which is almost a contradiction. People are not in the fields or grinding grain during a holy day. This verse indicates the Lord does not return during a Holy feast day.

But this is a very strange juxtaposition. Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it? Wasn't Noah trying to keep his life? Wasn't Lot trying to keep his life? I think the point is that Noah did not try to keep his life when he spent all that time building the ark and Lot didn't try to keep his life when he refused to hand over the two angels to be abused. Don't take the easy way out, don't live according to your flesh (as everyone at the time of Noah or in Sodom was doing).

The expression "on that night" must be allegorical. The earth is a sphere, when it is night in one place it is day in another. When some are in bed others are in the field or at work. So then the rapture will take place during a dark time spiritually and many believers will be tempted to save their lives and He is saying don't do that, take the way of the cross.

37 “Where, Lord?” they asked. He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”

Where? He was telling them when, not where. If the rapture is worldwide the question about “where” doesn’t make sense. So I think this question goes all the way back to “first the Son of man must be rejected by this generation and suffer many things”. During the first Gulf war you had the coalition forces arrayed against Iraq. A huge airforce in the desert, they were like vultures and they had gathered where the dead body, Iraq, was. When the bombs began to drop it was lightning lighting up the sky. CNN was beaming this from one end of the sky to the other. That was like a dress rehearsal for the Lord’s return. Where was Jesus crucified -- that was in Jerusalem. Who were the vultures? The Romans and the Jewish leaders dividing up the empire. I don’t doubt that during the Great Tribulation we will also return to Jerusalem in Israel. But that is the depiction in the book of Matthew and the end of the Great Tribulation, Luke appears to present the situation at the beginning of the Great Tribulation. In my opinion based on my reading of the Old and New Testaments and world history Jerusalem today is not the “light on the hill” nor is it “salt and light” to the nations. I believe that was what the New world was dedicated to be 400 years ago with the Mayflower compact. I believe you will see the vultures in the US along with the dead body. A dead body cannot stand up for righteousness, it cannot speak the truth, it cannot uphold justice. It is dead and simply something for the vultures to pick at and eat. The last twelve months the response from our elected officials to calls for transparency, righteousness and justice have gone unheeded. It is as though the body of our government is dead, surrounded by vultures ready to devour it.

The foreign press has described Biden as a walking corpse. This is where the dead body is today.

Look at the news: Durham is proceeding with his prosecution of the FISA scandal, election audits have the evidence of treason during our presidential election and a fraudulent election, the Ghislaine Maxwell trial is exposing a worldwide ring of pagan pedophiles among the elites, and the January 6th investigation is exposing the false flag operation of the deep state. The vultures are all gathered together because there is a feast for these lawyers to devour.