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[1ofthem]

Christians should be loving and more like Christ. Scripture is plain on that and here is but one example: 1 John 3 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

However, Gandhi has no voice in this matter.

Gandhi was looking for excuses and guess what, he found some, and we all could find excuses if we look at people. Gandhi could have been under conviction and if a Church actually did what he said then they were wrong. Still, Gandhi has no excuse just as scripture states. Gandhi will stand before God and give account for himself not anyone else.

Gandhi was a Hindu who thought Jesus was just some great teacher. Gandhi denied Jesus' authority, power, and the sheer fact that He is the only begotten Son of the true living God who has all power in heaven and on earth.

By making the statement/quote that he did he actually was insinuating that Jesus was just a teacher who had good teachings yet had no power to actually save or transform people. Seems evident his goal was to cause people to look at other people or so-called Christians and not look to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.

So like I said, to begin with, we all know that true Christians should and will show forth the love of Christ in our lives. As for Gandhi, there is no need to repeat any of his quotes or sayings no matter how deep they may sound. In reality, Gandhi was a teacher or advocate for Hinduism. I wonder how many folks he converted straight to hell with his sayings. No matter how deep or profound his words may have sounded, they were more than likely just his attempt at a backhanded compliment to the Lord.

 

[1ofthem]

Gandhi must have lived beside a certain church demonination I will not name, that is well known for actively seeking an excuse to argue about stuff.

I didn't realize there was only one denomination that likes to argue. Judging by what I see on CC about half the folks regardless of the denomination are looking for any excuse to argue about anything...then about another 45% just like to watch the arguing and take pleasure in the same...you know with the comments hand me the popcorn and whatnot cause this is getting good.

 

[Gojira]

I didn't realize there was only one denomination that likes to argue. Judging by what I see on CC about half the folks regardless of the denomination are looking for any excuse to argue about anything...then about another 45% just like to watch the arguing and take pleasure in the same...you know with the comments hand me the popcorn and whatnot cause this is getting good.

So, so true.

 

[Live4Him3]

Gandhi was looking for excuses and guess what, he found some, and we all could find excuses if we look at people. Gandhi could have been under conviction and if a Church actually did what he said then they were wrong. Still, Gandhi has no excuse just as scripture states. Gandhi will stand before God and give account for himself not anyone else.

To my knowledge, which is admittedly limited, there's nothing in Gandhi's writings that indicates in the least bit that he "was looking for excuses".

Will Gandhi ultimately be held accountable for his own rejection of Christ?

Absolutely, but that doesn't negate the fact that "Christians" have been doing a terrible job of representing Christ for a long, long time. If we truly walked and talked like Jesus walked and talked, and if we truly manifested some of Christ's power in this earth as we ought to be manifesting it, then some people would be more likely to believe.

In Gandhi's case, from what I've read, he felt that being a good Hindu basically equated with him being a good Christian because, as you said, he basically saw Christ as merely "a good teacher", but, again, I've seen nothing that even slightly indicates that he was "looking for excuses". If you have some documentation to back that assertion, then I, for one, would love to see it.

To my present knowledge, this is the only existing letter written by Gandhi in which he even mentions Jesus:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-43252705

 

[Live4Him3]

I didn't realize there was only one denomination that likes to argue. Judging by what I see on CC about half the folks regardless of the denomination are looking for any excuse to argue about anything...then about another 45% just like to watch the arguing and take pleasure in the same...you know with the comments hand me the popcorn and whatnot cause this is getting good.

It's probably higher than 50%, but, as I've said before (a while back), there is oftentimes a very fine line between "contending for the faith" and being "contentious".

The first, we ought to be doing.

The second, comes only by pride.

 

[Live4Him3]

It's probably higher than 50%, but, as I've said before (a while back), there is oftentimes a very fine line between "contending for the faith" and being "contentious".

The first, we ought to be doing.

The second, comes only by pride.

Btw, I'm well aware that I've stepped across that fine line at times.

This very short video clip perfectly describes God's reaction to me at those times:

 

[1ofthem]

To my knowledge, which is admittedly limited, there's nothing in Gandhi's writings that indicates in the least bit that he "was looking for excuses".

Will Gandhi ultimately be held accountable for his own rejection of Christ?


In Gandhi's case, from what I've read, he felt that being a good Hindu basically equated with him being a good Christian because, as you said, he basically saw Christ as merely "a good teacher", but, again, I've seen nothing that even slightly indicates that he was "looking for excuses". If you have some documentation to back that assertion, then I, for one, would love to see it.

To my present knowledge, this is the only existing letter written by Gandhi in which he even mentions Jesus:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-43252705

To my knowledge, Gandhi never wrote that he was looking for excuses...nor would he ever do that in my opinion.

It may just be me, but it seems obvious that he was using the way some "Christians" act as an excuse. I'll go one step further to say that he was more than likely using it to try to prove his assertion that Jesus was just some great teacher and had no power to save or transform anyone.

Gandhi was promoting Hinduism. As we know. he could find no fault in Jesus' teaching so he took the focus off Jesus called him a "good teacher" and put the focus on some "Christians".

Kind of like if you can't beat 'em join 'em type thing. He threw Jesus into his religion as a great teacher. Trying to join Jesus with Hinduism and say he was only a good teacher is an atrocious deception. He more than likely did that to get more converts into his false religion.

Can I refer you to any documents that state this exactly? No, but we know how the enemy works to cause confusion and how the Devil loves deception.

Absolutely, but that doesn't negate the fact that "Christians" have been doing a terrible job of representing Christ for a long, long time. If we truly walked and talked like Jesus walked and talked, and if we truly manifested some of Christ's power in this earth as we ought to be manifesting it, then some people would be more likely to believe.

I totally agree with you on this. Jesus is our example, and we all should walk in the Spirit with him and be like him. Jesus is perfect but men are fallible. If we put our confidence in mankind they will fail us, but God never fails. That is why we are to look straight to God and not to men. Which is exactly what scripture tells us to do.


Anyhow, this was in no way a jab at you. I'm just not a big fan of Gandhi.

 

[Lynx]

Christians should be loving and more like Christ. Scripture is plain on that and here is but one example: 1 John 3 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

However, Gandhi has no voice in this matter.

Gandhi was looking for excuses and guess what, he found some, and we all could find excuses if we look at people. Gandhi could have been under conviction and if a Church actually did what he said then they were wrong. Still, Gandhi has no excuse just as scripture states. Gandhi will stand before God and give account for himself not anyone else.

Gandhi was a Hindu who thought Jesus was just some great teacher. Gandhi denied Jesus' authority, power, and the sheer fact that He is the only begotten Son of the true living God who has all power in heaven and on earth.

By making the statement/quote that he did he actually was insinuating that Jesus was just a teacher who had good teachings yet had no power to actually save or transform people. Seems evident his goal was to cause people to look at other people or so-called Christians and not look to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.

So like I said, to begin with, we all know that true Christians should and will show forth the love of Christ in our lives. As for Gandhi, there is no need to repeat any of his quotes or sayings no matter how deep they may sound. In reality, Gandhi was a teacher or advocate for Hinduism. I wonder how many folks he converted straight to hell with his sayings. No matter how deep or profound his words may have sounded, they were more than likely just his attempt at a backhanded compliment to the Lord.

Hmm...

1. At that time, in that area, how many churches did he have from which to choose?

2. How is it possible to ascertain his intention?

I'm not saying you're wrong. He may have gone forth with exactly that intent. But there is also no way to know if you are right.

 

[1ofthem]

Hmm...

1. At that time, in that area, how many churches did he have from which to choose?

2. How is it possible to ascertain his intention?

I'm not saying you're wrong. He may have gone forth with exactly that intent. But there is also no way to know if you are right.

Let me try and put it simply and in a different way.... taking all my other comments out of it.

1. God sent his Son to die on the cross to give us all the opportunity to be saved yet he did/does not promise he's going to send us to the best churches or around the best "Christians". Still, he says no man will have any excuse for not accepting him. So regardless of how many churches he may or may not have had contact with... that point is mute.

2. That was just my thoughts on it. One thing for sure though, he allowed the devil to cause him to look at so-called Christians. And the Biggie is he denied the deity of Jesus.

So unless he repented before his death and said " I believe that Jesus is the Christ" then it is really not worth it to repeat anything he said. Is there?

 

[1ofthem]

One thing for sure though, he allowed the devil to cause him to look at so-called Christians.

Correction....look at so-called Christians and not to Jesus.

 

[Lanolin]

I dont think Gandhi rejected Christ as he had a different conception of who Christ is, so he may not have understood who Jesus is (Jesus was not reincarnated)
Many hindus believe in God but their God is different from the God of the Bible.

Also must remember that India was under British rule for a time and they thought that all the Brits were Christians, whether nominal or whatver. Didnt mean they were actually born again or practicing their faith.

 

[1ofthem]

I dont think Gandhi rejected Christ as he had a different conception of who Christ is, so he may not have understood who Jesus is (Jesus was not reincarnated)
Many hindus believe in God but their God is different from the God of the Bible.

Also must remember that India was under British rule for a time and they thought that all the Brits were Christians, whether nominal or whatver. Didnt mean they were actually born again or practicing their faith.

This is a perfect example of why it is so important to reject any teachings that are unbiblical. God sent his only begotten Son so that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. If you deny that Jesus is the Christ then you reject salvation. Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father. He is the Savior and the only way to eternal salvation.

God is a jealous God. He is the I Am. When Moses asked who should he say sent him, God replied by saying I am that I am. He is the one and only true living God. He won't play second fiddle or hold hands with any false gods. Those who come to Him must believe that He is the only true living God. Jesus said before Abraham was, I am. To deny that He is...is to deny salvation through unbelief.

The Jews believed in God the Father, but they didn't believe that Jesus was the Son or the Christ. They denied the deity of Christ thus rejecting salvation.

Thus to insinuate that Jesus was/is anything other than the Christ is the very definition of blasphemy and those who reject this truth reject salvation.

Nowadays, people are trying to promote universalism by trying to intermingle various different religions. They say it doesn't matter
if you believe that Jesus is the Christ or not you can still receive salvation just by being a good person. They would have people believe that people can worship other gods besides the Lord and still be saved. This is a total deception from the devil.

I believe folks like Gandhi who say Jesus was simply a good teacher may have had a hand in beginning this corrupt move toward universalism by incorporating Jesus into their teachings while worshipping their many false gods such as Krishna their false god of love. Then you have religions such as the Muslims who say that Jesus was just a prophet and would have you worship another god (Allah) other than the God of the Scripture, the I Am, the Alpha and Omega, the one and only true God.

So to get to my point....by rejecting that Jesus is the Christ, Gandhi ultimately rejected Christ. It really is that simple.

 

[EternalFire]

Gotta admit it can work sometimes though. My brother was a semi-militant atheist for a long time. He even tried to physically assault me one time for just saying I’m a Christian. He had a hair trigger about Christianity, but that all changed when he started dating a pretty Christian girl.

He started going to church and I couldn’t believe it. What’s more is he said “I agree with them too.” My jaw was on the floor. I asked if he would like to Bible study and pray together sometime and he didn’t say no or blow his top.

A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit (Mt. 7:18).

 

[Lanolin]

A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit (Mt. 7:18).

? Yea sounds a bit suss this turnaround.

When she loses her looks as most 'girls' do when they age, will the guy lose interest in being a christian as well? I wonder.