Queen Elizabeth has passed away and now there is a new King in England.

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

kinda

Senior Member
Jun 26, 2013
3,928
1,503
113
#1

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61585886



Interesting read.








The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea

by
Tim Cohen



THE ANTICHRIST AND A CUP OF TEA presents the fascinating saga of the British Monarchy's centuries-long endeavor to establish a "New World Order," and for the first time, gives hard evidence to suggest the identity of the AntiChrist. (less)
 

TheNarrowPath

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2022
1,012
548
113
#2
One thing for sure is that Charles will be ramping up the climate narrative.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,691
6,733
113
#3
Charles is the son of the Prince of Greece, he has been schooled in all of the military sciences, and he is a big fan of archaeology. Who knows maybe he'll want to see the Temple rebuilt.

However, I have heard very convincing cases made for three different people alive today to be "the Antichrist" and I assume that at least two of these are wrong.

That said, the three people they have mentioned I do believe will play a role in the coming kingdom of AntiChrist, whether or not they are "the" antichrist.
 

MaryPat

New member
Sep 6, 2022
25
15
3
#4
One thing for sure is that Charles will be ramping up the climate narrative.
I agree. Also, this may have no significance at all, but there was a king on the British throne when Israel became a nation; and I've heard that there will be a king on the British throne when Jesus returns. Now this is not Biblical; but it certainly looks this might be the case. 🤔
 

MaryPat

New member
Sep 6, 2022
25
15
3
#5
Charles is the son of the Prince of Greece, he has been schooled in all of the military sciences, and he is a big fan of archaeology. Who knows maybe he'll want to see the Temple rebuilt.

However, I have heard very convincing cases made for three different people alive today to be "the Antichrist" and I assume that at least two of these are wrong.

That said, the three people they have mentioned I do believe will play a role in the coming kingdom of AntiChrist, whether or not they are "the" antichrist.
This is interesting too: Queen Elizabeth II was more Christ-centered. Charles is an all-roads-lead-to-God person. Either way, God is moving leaders around the world stage.
 
K

kaylagrl

Guest
#6
Charles is the son of the Prince of Greece, he has been schooled in all of the military sciences, and he is a big fan of archaeology. Who knows maybe he'll want to see the Temple rebuilt.

However, I have heard very convincing cases made for three different people alive today to be "the Antichrist" and I assume that at least two of these are wrong.

That said, the three people they have mentioned I do believe will play a role in the coming kingdom of AntiChrist, whether or not they are "the" antichrist.

Do tell...?
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,691
6,733
113
#7
Why? Whoever the Antichrist is he will be revealed when he confirms the covenant with the Jews. I think we have been told enough to recognize him when this happens. Conjecture before hand is understandably offensive.

That said the time is very short:

Pastor Sandy Armstrong has been teaching for two years on the Biblical basis from the Psalms and Genesis for 2022 to be the year of the rapture. He makes a compelling case. I won't repeat his teaching but in brief he is fully convinced that the Psalms are prophetic with each Psalm being prophetic of a year in our recent history beginning with Psalm 1 being prophetic of 1901/1902. You should be aware that even though Psalms is the 19th book so the first chapter would be 1901, that is the Gregorian calendar and yet it may be that these prophecies are based on the Hebrew years which begin with Feast of Trumpets in September. I have seen enough to believe that this is true, but have not gone into great depth to really do more than that.

Dr. Barry Awe has been teaching for several years on all the types and shadows and prophecies concerning the rapture and he has done a great job of showing that Daniel's prophetic timeline points to this year for the rapture. Again, I listen to every message in detail and have become fully convinced that he also is onto something, but other than that I have not done this research myself.

The Shemitah refers to a seven year period, the Bible refers to the seventh year of this seven year cycle as a "sabbath year". It is Biblical and Rabbi Jonathan Kahn has done a very good job of proving that this is the seventh year of a Shemitah cycle. This is important to me because the 70th week in Daniel is a seven year period and I believe it must refer to a Shemitah. Therefore, if the 70th week doesn't begin this fall it would have to wait for another 7 years to begin.

Colossians says that the feast days are a shadow of things to come: Passover = Lord's crucifixion, Unleavened bread = Lord's death and burial, Firstfruits = Lord's resurrection, Shavuot = Lord's ascension, Pentecost (feast of new wine) = Lord pouring the Spirit into the church as new wine into new wine skins. The next feast is the feast of new oil and that is about nine days from now. If you remember the foolish virgins were told to go buy oil from those that sell. This could be a reference to the Feast of New wine and the two olive trees, the two witnesses that appear at the time of the tribulation. One week after this feast we have the Feast of Trumpets which all believe will be the signal at the start of the tribulation, the 70th week in Daniel. If the 70th week in Daniel begins in two weeks then that would also signal the end of the age of the Gentiles. So I would expect the rapture to take place prior to that.

However, Jesus said no one knows the day of the rapture, so I don't see how it could be this feast of new oil since everyone knew that day.

However, this weekend we have a full moon, and according to Proverbs the good man of the house returns on the appointed day, and that in Hebrew can be seen as a reference to a full moon. Also, the most auspicious day for a wedding on the Hebrew calendar is the 15th of Av, which was the full moon last month. Interestingly, since that day in the wilderness when the curse ended and this became a feast day the constellations have moved 15 degrees. So this full moon has the same signs in the stars as that feast day a few thousand years ago. The Bible says that God put the stars in the sky as a sign (this is a direct reference to calculating feast days by the calendar). So it would be appropriate that we have a new day, that no one knew about that also has this sign over it.

Then in the Gospels Jesus said that the end of the age would be as the days of Noah. First, Noah releases the Dove and the Raven. A dove signifies the spirit (numerical value for the word for Dove = Spirit) and the Raven signifies the spirit of Antichrist. The dove leaves the ark and then returns. This is what the Spirit will do when it raptures the saints prior to the tribulation. At the same time as the rapture the spirit of Antichrist is released to fly to and for over the face of the earth. A week later the Dove is released again and returns with an olive branch in its mouth, this could be a reference to the feast of new oil. Then a week later the dove is released and doesn't return. This could be the feast of Trumpets. Jesus ministry began on this day with the Spirit as a dove descending on Him and it could be that the tribulation begins with the Spirit as a dove descending upon the two witnesses.

In addition to all this you can see some very interesting dreams and visions from Dana Coverstone, Vicky Goforth Parnell, and Ken Peters which perfectly align with this.
 

shittim

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2016
13,805
7,788
113
#9
Saw this posted by a sister in Christ about Charles and this U.N. Conference-

"Yes. At the COP26 Summit, Prince Charles spoke of a world leader with trillions of dollars at his disposal. The Antichrist is about to be revealed. "
 

Dirtman

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2022
1,151
441
83
#10
So the queen of england dies and the apocalyptic prognosticators begin slobbering like Pavlov's dogs.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,691
6,733
113
#11
So the queen of england dies and the apocalyptic prognosticators begin slobbering like Pavlov's dogs.
So the faithful servants watching for the Lord's return take note of some event and the evil servants claim the Lord is delaying His coming and begin to smite them and to eat and drink with the drunken.

45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 

Dirtman

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2022
1,151
441
83
#12
So the faithful servants watching for the Lord's return take note of some event and the evil servants claim the Lord is delaying His coming and begin to smite them and to eat and drink with the drunken.

45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
I never said the Lord delays his coming. Maybe he come tonight. What I said is the death of the queen of england brings out the prognosticators. Thats two very different things. One patiently waiting vs slobbering over false prophecies.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,691
6,733
113
#13
I never said the Lord delays his coming. Maybe he come tonight. What I said is the death of the queen of england brings out the prognosticators. Thats two very different things. One patiently waiting vs slobbering over false prophecies.
When we talk about elites we talk about the Queen of England, one of the richest people on the planet.

She reigned for 70 years, her reign began on the first year of the Shemitah following Israel becoming a nation again and she has reigned for 10 Shemitah's as we come to the very end of this Shemitah.

Jesus said this generation, referring to the generation that sees Israel become a nation again, shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled. Psalm 90 tells us a generation is 70-80 years. So her death highlights several very key prophecies concerning the end of the age.

A strong case can be made for the US being Sodom and Gomorrah and the mother of the US is clearly the UK. No doubt the Queen of England personifies this mother.

There are three cities that can lay claim to being "the Great Babylon" in Revelation 18-- Washington DC, NYC and London. There is one city that can be the religious Babylon in Revelation 17 -- Vatican in Rome.

The royal family very clearly has ties to Epstein, child trafficking. There are many claiming that Epstein island was not simply pedophile island but also a place of Moloch and Baal worship. At the very least we need to prosecute everyone that was involved in this island and that includes any royals.

Others are claiming that Ukraine is where the headquarters for the child traffickers and Moloch and Baal worship is, and explains why Biden will pay any price to help defend them.

When we study the Antichrist it appears he will be a king and rule over the reformed Roman Empire and his father will be the prince of Greece. This isn't slobbering prognostication, simply collecting Bible verses on "The Antichrist". Since such a description would now fit King Charles III it would be absurd to rule him out or to slander anyone looking into this as "slobbering prognosticators".
 
R

RichMan

Guest
#14
Why does this nation continue to waste untold millions of dollars on this foolishness.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,691
6,733
113
#15
Why does this nation continue to waste untold millions of dollars on this foolishness.
"Millions of dollars" will soon be completely worthless, whereas the Lord's coming and whether or not you are faithfully watching at the time will be something that will stand for eternity.

Matthew 26:8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? 9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.
 

Dirtman

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2022
1,151
441
83
#16
There have been many Kings and Queens and they all died or will die. None of this bears any weight to the Lord God. He comes when he come. As for the return of the son of man there is no sign.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,691
6,733
113
#17
There have been many Kings and Queens and they all died or will die. None of this bears any weight to the Lord God. He comes when he come. As for the return of the son of man there is no sign.
Then what exactly are we to watch for?

Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.


Also, how is this a warning for people who won't watch if there is nothing to watch for?

Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.


The longest sermon that is recorded in the gospels is Jesus responding to the question Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

25% of the Bible refers to the Day of the Lord, the end of the age, and the coming judgement. The idea that there is no sign is not Biblical, simply your opinion and is directly contradicted by the words of the Lord.
 
Nov 26, 2021
1,125
545
113
India
#18
MP's pay tribute to the Queen:

I heard an MP praise Her Majesty's Christian Faith. May she Rest in Peace. She loved Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and often made reference to Him in her Christmas speeches. He is King of kings, and of queens, and she served Him as her King.

 

Dirtman

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2022
1,151
441
83
#19
Then what exactly are we to watch for?

Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Also, how is this a warning for people who won't watch if there is nothing to watch for?

Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

The longest sermon that is recorded in the gospels is Jesus responding to the question Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

25% of the Bible refers to the Day of the Lord, the end of the age, and the coming judgement. The idea that there is no sign is not Biblical, simply your opinion and is directly contradicted by the words of the Lord.
What is there to watch for? Look at the things Jesus said. Some version translate Mathew 25:13 as be alert rather than watch. Maybe it just means to keep in mind that Jesus is returning and it could be any time. So as he warned about abusing the brothers yeah dont do that but maybe be doing the things he said do.
Any way ya slice it I dont think he means watch the news
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,691
6,733
113
#20
What is there to watch for? Look at the things Jesus said. Some version translate Mathew 25:13 as be alert rather than watch. Maybe it just means to keep in mind that Jesus is returning and it could be any time. So as he warned about abusing the brothers yeah dont do that but maybe be doing the things he said do.
Any way ya slice it I dont think he means watch the news

1. Cults -- Jim Jones, David Koresh, Manson, Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, Moonies, etc.


Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Mormonism -- 1830, Jehovah Witness -- 1870, Unification church May 1, 1954, Heaven's Gate -- 1974, Jim Jones -- 1976, Aum Shinrykyo -- 1984, David Koresh 1993


6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

We have had two world wars. WWI led to the Balfour Declaration that Israel belongs to the Jews, and WWII led to 1948 and Israel being given back to the Jews. WWII clearly prefigures the tribulation like a dress rehearsal. You had an antichrist figure, the mark of the beast, a holocaust, Nuremberg trials where Haman's ten sons are hanged. We have had quite a few genocides in last hundred years, and the Spanish Flu was a worldwide pandemic, again a dress rehearsal for Covid19. But at that time you knew the end was not yet because Israel had not been given back to the Jews. Read the major Christian teachings prior to 1948, almost everyone taught that the Jews returning to Israel was allegorical and not literal.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Those things that we have seen: Spanish Flu, WWI, WWII, they were the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

This is strange, it seems He is referring to the apostles all being martyred at the beginning of the age, and yet it seems it is also describing the tribulation. Many argue that "pattern is prophecy". What we saw with the apostles in the book of Acts will be repeated at the end of the age.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Again, this is what we saw in Acts but it will be completed during the tribulation. Right now with the internet we can really reach the ends of the Earth. The Gideon's have translated the New Testament into 1800 translations and distribute them in over 200 countries. In the last 100 years they have handed out over 2 billion New Testaments. Not only so but the Bible is available free online translated into over 1800 languages (Gideon website). However, after the rapture you will see an age of miracles and the greatest revival of the church in two thousand years. So then this is a major sign.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


The abomination of desolation is the dome of the rock, it was built the exact number of years that Daniel prophesied it would be. Daniel also said blessed are those that come to the 1335 year, and it is exactly 1335 years since the dome of the rock was built.

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

The Great tribulation refers to the last 3 1/2 years of the tribulation. At that time all of the Christians will have been removed and the enemies full focus will be on Israel and Jerusalem. Daniel told them the AntiChrist would confirm a covenant with them that he would then break in the middle of the tribulation. It is understood that the AntiChrist will allow the Jews to rebuild the temple because at this point he will be able to stand in the holy place just like Antiochus did at the time of Hanukah.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before.

We will see fallen angels, the Nephelim and they will do all kinds of signs and wonders during the tribulation.


So these are some of the signs we are to look for. Some have been fulfilled, some are yet to be fulfilled. The dome of the Rock was built, we have come to the year 1335 since that was built, we have had world wars, we have seen Israel given back to the Jews, we have seen Jerusalem given back to the Jews, and we have the Abraham accords. Daniel doesn't say that the Antichrist makes the covenant, he says the Antichrist confirms the covenant. The Abraham accords are a covenant for Israel to have full control of Jerusalem and to rebuild their temple. We are also seeing the fulfillment of the word for the gospel to be preached throughout the whole world. This is like a two stage rocked. At this point the first stage is all but completed, and when the rapture takes place we will see the second stage of this gospel going forth.

Jesus said it would be as the days of Noah.

1. The first day of Noah in Genesis is not his birthday but rather the day he got the vision that a worldwide flood would hit the earth and he also got the plans for the ark. We don't know how old he was when he got this but we do know he had three sons at the time. If you assume the youngest was 13 (this way he could have a four man crew) then he might have been around 33. We know he was 600 when the flood hit so go back 567 years from this year and that was the year we had the Gutenberg Bible (We have a letter from the Pope saying he had seen some pages of it in 1455).

2. We also know that Noah preached the gospel for 120 years before the flood. Go back to 1899 and that is when the Gideon ministry was first founded to distribute bibles around the world.

3. Then one week before the flood Noah enters the ark with his family, seven others, indicating Christ and the Church. At that time God shuts the door. In 2020 we had a worldwide pandemic and for the first time in human history God shut the door on businesses and churches around the world. That is 120 years after the Gideons were distributing 2 billion bibles worldwide.

Joel tells us we will see a worldwide pandemic that will eat up the entire economy in that year and that it will be a global sabbath rest proclaimed by God for people to fast and pray and that it will be a major sign that the Day of the Lord is at hand.