THE THIRD COMING OF CHRIST

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oyster67

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MISSION-IMPOSSIBLE said:
The widespread belief of the “Second Coming” of the Lord is probably taught and believed in over 90% of the church. All dispensationalists believe in the second coming as their “hope” is always in the future, never thinking of abiding in the present moment in Christ.

If we are going to believe in the “coming of the Lord”, I suggest that we call it the “THIRD COMING”, not the “Second Coming”

Before I state my case, let’s read the following verse that clearly speaking about the “Second Coming”:

Hebrews 9:28 (NASB95) “So Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him.”

  • In context, the writer of the Hebrews was writing to Hebrew believers of the 1st century who were being tempted to go back to the Law and hope for the best because the life they were living was too hard due to the cruelty of the unconverted Jews who persecuted them and accused them of being heretics.
  • In view of the context of these scriptures, the writer of Hebrews was referring to the soon SECOND COMING which was expected to come when Jerusalem was judged for its many sins (Mat. 23:34-38; 1Thes. 2:14-16), and the destruction of the Jewish temple that took place in AD 70.
  • Since the first coming took place in the incarnation when God became Man, and the invisible second coming came to be when Christ judged Jerusalem, while officially ending the old covenant, do you believe in the 3rd coming?
How so? Please respond succinctly if you believe the Lord will be coming visibly, for all to see.

By the way, this ridiculous picture of the Lord's coming is nothing but an atrocious way of attempting to imagine the "Second Coming", or the "Third Coming." 😁

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Hebrews 9:28 Context

25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Verse 26 is the first coming, verse 28 speaks again of the first coming (offering) and then the second (and final) future coming. There is nothing mysterious or difficult here. The fact the there are two comings is a fact well established by Scripture.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Since Christ does not come to earth at the Rapture (and also comes momentarily), it cannot be regarded as a third coming.
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Agree. The rapture occurs in close time proximity (7 years) to Christ's stepping down on Earth. I think of the second coming time period as inclusive of both events, but that's just me. I do understand why one might want to view it as being after the tribulation period though, especially from the perspective of those who plan on being left behind.
 
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oyster67 said:
Agree. The rapture occurs in close time proximity (7 years) to Christ's stepping down on Earth. I think of the second coming time period as inclusive of both events, but that's just me. I do understand why one might want to view it as being after the tribulation period though, especially from the perspective of those who plan on being left behind.
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No one plans on being left behind. The "Left-beind" scenario is a false prophecy.
I plan on joining the coronation procession to Zion (Jerusalem) that is described in scripture.
 
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MISSION-IMPOSSIBLE said:
Wow!


I was a dispensationalist. I know more than you can imagine. Dispensationalism is hardly 200 years old. Cultists like John Darvin and C.I. Scofield were the priests of deception.

You believe in fables.
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Oh brother, another one... :rolleyes:
 
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oyster67 said:
Agree. I was referring to those who would come in during the Tribulation.



Me too. (y)



What do you mean by that? :confused: Please explain.
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I mean no one is left behind. You can't miss the resurrection even if you are dead.

And I'll see you at the King's coronation. With bells on. :)
 
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Everybody and their mother's uncle has a different definition of dispensationalexpyaladociousism.
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And you spelled it!! My bad, continue on. :censored: I wouldn't want to get in the way of dispensat... dispiensa... that thing. :rolleyes:
 
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oyster67 said:
Hebrews 9:28 Context

25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Verse 26 is the first coming, verse 28 speaks again of the first coming (offering) and then the second (and final) future coming. There is nothing mysterious or difficult here. The fact the there are two comings is a fact well established by Scripture.
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No, the first coming was when God became Man and walked among us. Do you deny the incarnation as the FIRST COMING of the Messiah?
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Dispensationalists properly distinguish between the Resurrection/Rapture (for which Christ does NOT come to earth) and the Second Coming (with all His saints and angels back to earth). So the "Blessed Hope" is the Rapture, which is always "imminent" (could occur at any time, even today).

But the Second Coming is for divine judgment, hence all the inhabitants of the earth will weep, and wail, and mourn at that time (Rev 1:7). BIG DIFFERENCE. As to a "third coming" that is simply laughable.
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Dispensationalists have created an array of pre-suppositions and half-truths because they believe the Bible was written TO them, therefore they ignore biblical context and immediately bring the fulfillment of the scriptures to THEIR future while ignoring the recipients of the scriptures where the writers were referring to THEIR future, not OURS.

Anything that doesn't fit your neatly pre-arranged beliefs will have to be false in your view. It is not my beliefs that are laughable, but yours. 😁
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Dispensationalists properly distinguish between the Resurrection/Rapture (for which Christ does NOT come to earth) and the Second Coming (with all His saints and angels back to earth). So the "Blessed Hope" is the Rapture, which is always "imminent" (could occur at any time, even today).

But the Second Coming is for divine judgment, hence all the inhabitants of the earth will weep, and wail, and mourn at that time (Rev 1:7). BIG DIFFERENCE. As to a "third coming" that is simply laughable.
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Did you forget about the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple which brought about the end of the old covenant? That was the second coming. No one ever wrote that it was going to be visible. 🤠
 
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Inquisitor said:
Sounds like Preterism.
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Nope. My beliefs come from viewing the scriptures in their correct context which leads me to understand the whole spectrum of God's word in the correct way of applying scripture. If you want to call it Preterism, go ahead, I don't follow doctrinal beliefs although I pay attention to what is being said today. Most, I discard. Dispensationalism is hardly two hundred years old which makes it into a cult. Partial preterism goes back to the scriptures as they study them according to biblical logic. Either way, I am independent in my secondary beliefs.
 
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Adstar said:
I know Jesus is The LORD.. Yes Jesus is God.. I never said He was not... But when we talk of His second coming we are actually talking about His second physical coming. we are not excluding His spiritual comings which can be numbered in the millions as He comes individuelly to all people who believe Him and trust in His atonement..


Where did you learn this doctrine? Jesus will come again in His physical form and He will rule the nations with a Rod of Iron.. The world will not break into pieces and not everyone will die..
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Study the holiness of God. Has God ever appeared in physical form?

Exodus 33:20 "But, he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”

Flesh and blood cannot possibly see God in His pure holiness live to tell about it. Besides that, don't you know that the Jews who crucified the Lord believed like you? What did the Lord say to Pilate? "My kingdom is NOT of this world" (Jn 18:36). God has always reigned from heaven and guess what, Jesus is God!
 
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