Hypocrites beware

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God said at the last days perilous times will come,and then states the condition of people,that they are more selfish,greedy,and arrogant,than in the past leading them more astray,which includes the people who are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,and having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof,the Spirit,to help them to overcome the flesh,who are ever learning but never coming to the truth that they have to abstain from sin.

God pointed out that in the end times there will be many hypocrites for they are being carried away with the lusts of the world that increase as time goes on,but still claim Christianity,and causing people to believe that Christianity is a hypocritical religion,and now there is the New Age religion occult Christianity,that claims man is god himself,that God warned us of in 1 Timothy chapter 4.

There cannot be a falling away of man allowing the New Age Christ to appear until there is an occult,false Christianity,to deceive the world.

Christianity is the standard of the world on good morals and decent character,and the more hypocritical people who claim to be with Christ are,the more the world is closer to rebelling against God,where the only outcome of the direction that the world is going with it's selfishness and arrogance,that has been building from Adam and Eve until it's conclusion,is a world where man is god himself with no governmental or religious authority above them.

And all this is going to happen mainly because there is a multitude of hypocrites,and the world views fundamental Christianity as hypocritical,giving more way to the New Age religion occult Christianity where man is god himself,which eventually the world,all the religions,will embrace that interpretation of Christianity as the foundation of all religions,where everybody can have the Christ consciousness,and the divinity is in them,and when the New Age Christ appears saying he has tapped in to the highest part of the Cosmos,nature,and has ascended in to godhood,the most power a man can achieve,and he will restore all the hidden mysteries of the past and man can ascend in to godhood.

Hypocrites cause much damage,and why would they want to be hypocritical seeing it causes so much hurt to the world.
 
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New Age Christianity is just Vedantta Hinduism with new Pharisee clothes. can anyone state the difference between the world religions and true Christianity?
 

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YOU make NO SENSE!

ONE JESUS TOLD THE PHARISEES they were HYPOCRITES and they HAVE NO part in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

you admit that you "used to be a hyprocrite" so those words "used to be for you" but I tell you they still apply TODAY.

you do not see past your plank.

1. what do you call an immature Christian? One that hasn't grown up?

A BABY!

so who are you REALLY talking to?

I'll tell you who you are not talking to:

1. mature christains who have called you out on your words and because it does not apply to them since they are not hypocrites

2. unsaved people who don't know Jesus, who would run away in tears because of your words or never admit they are hypocrites

3. not baby christians who are not in need of your words but comfort edification and exhortation on how to walk with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and His Words as Spotlights on their life

So who is left?

I see one person who needs to read those words again.
You are protesting too much.

You are making me worry about you with all this protesting.

Read the letters again, and see what they say about these things.

Everyone wants to tell me how scripture is authoritative, and it is, but then they ignore almost half of it.
When I point this out, all of a sudden I am the bad guy.

Repent, for the day of the Lord draws near.
 

VW

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I ignored the passages in scripture for many years, the ones I am pointing to. I just read over them, saying in my mind that they were not for me, I was saved and God did not see my sins.

But before you decide, just read the letters of Paul again, focusing this time on how many times he tells us things not to do, and warns us of things to avoid, in our actions and in our thoughts.

It is easy to read and see the things that are so wonderful, the things we have in Christ that make us God's children, whom He loves more than we can know in this life. But the things which make Him angry, the things which cause us to be ineffective and which even destroy our witness to and in the world, and which worst of all block His love to the world.

So, no, I will not click the link, because it is another attempt to show me that I have made a mistake, or have been deceived by a demon, or some other thing which points to me and my problems rather than answer the issues which I have raised.

Just remember, God calls us to be holy, even as He is holy. I cannot do this, neither can you, but I can seek His face to make me as holy as He is willing and I am able to die to my flesh in Christ. He sees the one who is seeking Him in this as one who loves Him enough to give up even their life on the cross of Christ.

I hear a lot of teaching about how blessed we are. I don't hear any teaching about becoming holy in Christ. Rather that we already are holy. Positional without the experience. All this amounts to is hypocrisy.

I am sorry that you are offended by my words. I never try to offend anyone on purpose. Never.

His day is drawing near. Time is short.

In Christ,
 
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I hear a lot of teaching about how blessed we are. I don't hear any teaching about becoming holy in Christ. Rather that we already are holy. Positional without the experience. All this amounts to is hypocrisy.
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that is because you do not listen.


do you actually want to learn about becoming holy in Christ or are they just empty words?


The Ten Commandments by Phil Johnson

the above is a link to some lectures on the ten commandments. I recommend you listen to them, but then that might actually take some effort and diligence on your part....

sad you are too wrapped up in yourself. you don't even see God's children who need help around you.

here are some more scriptures you might be ignoring....

Colossians 2:18-20
New King James Version (NKJV)
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not[a] seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.
20 Therefore,if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations—
 
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then you have not been paying attention. VW first words were fine with me, it was his subsequent words and condemnation he spoke to others I found offensive. it is when he tells us God tells him to condemn His church that I must say that is a lie. It is when he made the statement about a whore in a wedding dress and how God will not accept that and implying that those in the church are whores that I find offensive. Even after many have told him that the church is not a building, not a denomination but PEOPLE God has called out to be HIS. PEOPLE he call out daily to be His BRIDE to make up His body.

That is what I find offensive. Defend him if you want since he loves the attention. just be careful you don't get bitten by his little pet. not all eggs hatch chickens.

as for sowing discord, what do you call telling people they are unworthy whores qualify as? love, comfort edification? do you really find it a just exhortation?

but no VW didn't call them whores he just planted the seed and allows them to come to that conclusion themselves.

I don't chose to be a teacher, I chose to be a child of God part of His earthly church.

VW choses to be a self proclaimed prophet and mouthpiece of GOD and you chose to defend him?
Gods words offend you?In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs. For to which of the angels did God ever say,

“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father”[a]?
Or again,
“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son”[b]?
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”[c]
In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits,
and his servants flames of fire.”


 
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AnandaHya

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Gods words offend you?
?? either you totally misread my post or you think VW is speaking for GOD and is "God's SON" who I thought referred to JESUS.

I have no problems with anything the Bible says.

I just have issues with the way some people mishandle His Holy Words and claim to be speaking for GOD when they utter lies about His church and His love through ignorance of what sanctification truly means.

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?? either you totally misread my post or you think VW is speaking for GOD and is "God's SON" who I thought referred to JESUS.

I have no problems with anything the Bible says.

I just have issues with the way some people mishandle His Holy Words and claim to be speaking for GOD when they utter lies about His church and His love through ignorance of what sanctification truly means.

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Have you ever mistaken reading the Bible?
 
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Gods words offend you?


No wisdomseeker .......God's words do not offend. They are a lamp unto our feet and in them is all truth and wisdom found. May the following be a blessing to you.

Jeremiah 23:31,32,39,40

31. Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.
32. Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.
39. Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:
40. And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.
 

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No wisdomseeker .......God's words do not offend. They are a lamp unto our feet and in them is all truth and wisdom found. May the following be a blessing to you.

Jeremiah 23:31,32,39,40

31. Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.
32. Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.
39. Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:
40. And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.
This is what you have gotten from this passage in Jeremiah, the whole of chapter 23 is God's word to false prophets? Talk about using scripture to say what you want it to say. Whew.

For the verses before the ones you took out of context are very important. Would you care to quote the rest of the paragraph?

Where the prophet says for God, "The prophet who has a dream may relate his dream, but let him who has My word speak My word in truth. What does straw have in common with grain?" declares the Lord. "Is not My word like fire?" declares the Lord. "and like a hammer which shatters a rock? Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets."

You have twisted God's word to say what you want it to say. God is not against all prophets, just those who preach peace, peace, when there is no peace.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.
 
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AnandaHya

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Are you blind idolater! Woe to you! Your idol - a bible. People like you never heard of the Living God, and do not need Him!
here we go an answer that is also based on ignorance but this time ignorance of the person you are talking to.

1. EG does not idolize the Bible that is your misunderstanding of his words when he is pointing out that the Bible is a LETTER from God to the world that testifies of Jesus' coming and saving us. Do you have issues with that?

2. the "people like you" statement is judgmental and wrong since you have not even bothered to hear his testimony and can not judge his heart. I agree with him on this topic and I know that I am nothing without God and the Bible is just His rule book and letter of love to me and those who call on the name of Jesus. Do I understand all of it? no have I misread it? probably but I have the Holy Spirit and though I freely admit I don't understand the whole letter I know it tells me that God loves me and He sent Jesus to die on the cross for my sins and that Jesus was resurrected and now lives in Heaven and one day God will wipe away all our tears but for now we run the race of life He has set before us and walk in His way and life our lives in a manner that shows the world God's love and light.

3. Everyone needs GOD. so that statement about "do not need Him" is a lie. you should pray for people you think do not have God not curse them by telling them they never heard of Him and don't need Him. You should instead tell them about GOD and His Love and how to walk in His ways.

so does that answer you question Necto?
 
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This is what you have gotten from this passage in Jeremiah, the whole of chapter 23 is God's word to false prophets? Talk about using scripture to say what you want it to say. Whew.

For the verses before the ones you took out of context are very important. Would you care to quote the rest of the paragraph?

Where the prophet says for God, "The prophet who has a dream may relate his dream, but let him who has My word speak My word in truth. What does straw have in common with grain?" declares the Lord. "Is not My word like fire?" declares the Lord. "and like a hammer which shatters a rock? Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets."

You have twisted God's word to say what you want it to say. God is not against all prophets, just those who preach peace, peace, when there is no peace.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.
Don't judge me VW. Here's another of my favorites :)


New International Version (©1984)
The terror you inspire and the pride of your heart have deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rocks, who occupy the heights of the hill. Though you build your nest as high as the eagle's, from there I will bring you down," declares the LORD.
 

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Jeremiah 23:16:20
Thus says the Lord of hosts,
"Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you.
They are leading you into futility;
They speak a vision of their own imagination,
Not from the mouth of the Lord.

They keep saying to those who despise Me,
The Lord has said, 'you will have peace'";
And as for everyone who walks in the stubbornness of his own heart,
They say, 'Calamity will not come upon you.'

But who has stood in council of the Lord,
That he should see and hear His word?
Who has given heed to His word and listened?

"Behold, the storm of the Lord has gone forth in wrath,
Even a whirling tempest;
It will swirl down on the head of the wicked,
The anger of the Lord will not turn back
Until He has performed and carried out the purposes of His heart;
In the last days you will clearly understand it."

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.
 

VW

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Don't judge me VW. Here's another of my favorites :)


New International Version (©1984)
The terror you inspire and the pride of your heart have deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rocks, who occupy the heights of the hill. Though you build your nest as high as the eagle's, from there I will bring you down," declares the LORD.
I did not judge you. There is another who judges.
 

VW

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Don't judge me VW. Here's another of my favorites :)


New International Version (©1984)
The terror you inspire and the pride of your heart have deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rocks, who occupy the heights of the hill. Though you build your nest as high as the eagle's, from there I will bring you down," declares the LORD.
Yes, He surely will take the proud and remove them from their nest, bring them down.

He did that to me, over 17 years ago. For some odd reason He chose to leave me here in the earth, even though I deserved nothing but death and eternal condemnation, as a bible believing christian.

He made me a follower of Jesus Christ, by His Holy Spirit.

Repent for the day of the Lord is at hand.
 
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Abiding

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VW ...........many times you have said and have a following that sidse with you saying that you were lost by believing the bible.
Every Christian I have ever known believes the bible, although the bible needs to be obeyed in order to not be decieved. You dont
say it that way. If the bible is truth, then it was your own disobedience that decieved you.

Now you are decieving other people telling that the bible decieved you, and we have the kind of nonesence here like: do you worship the bible?
and such. Id have never guessed with all the idoltry in the world the prophets spoke out against that id ever hear one throw fear at people
to study the word of God, while claiming they should listen to the spirit expecting more revelation than what is in scripture.

Jesus warned people to not do as some preaching the word but never doing it themselves. But He never, ever warned anyone that it would decieve them.
No actually it was the words of life. Actually He said His words were spirit. So if you have this spirit that is beyond the words....you have a devil.
That explains the talking down of the word, and the sheep beating you do.

My first bout with you I explained to you that the word and the Spirit are one. You seperate them and teach others to....you are not led by the Holyspirit!!
To even discuss whether you are a true prophet would be silly.
 
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here we go an answer that is also based on ignorance but this time ignorance of the person you are talking to.

1. EG does not idolize the Bible that is your misunderstanding of his words when he is pointing out that the Bible is a LETTER from God to the world that testifies of Jesus' coming and saving us. Do you have issues with that?

2. the "people like you" statement is judgmental and wrong since you have not even bothered to hear his testimony and can not judge his heart. I agree with him on this topic and I know that I am nothing without God and the Bible is just His rule book and letter of love to me and those who call on the name of Jesus. Do I understand all of it? no have I misread it? probably but I have the Holy Spirit and though I freely admit I don't understand the whole letter I know it tells me that God loves me and He sent Jesus to die on the cross for my sins and that Jesus was resurrected and now lives in Heaven and one day God will wipe away all our tears but for now we run the race of life He has set before us and walk in His way and life our lives in a manner that shows the world God's love and light.

3. Everyone needs GOD. so that statement about "do not need Him" is a lie. you should pray for people you think do not have God not curse them by telling them they never heard of Him and don't need Him. You should instead tell them about GOD and His Love and how to walk in His ways.

so does that answer you question Necto?
Better for him to learn the truth now, rather than on the court of the church. If a person says that he has the Spirit, and reads the Bible, it is still nothing say about! At the trial, many will be shocked! You may find that all that he did a Christian on earth, rejected by God! Do you judge by your eyes? Or by hearing of yours ears you decide things? If it was not ignorance, it would be a partiality! You do not know the real Spirit , so you do not know anyone before you.