Hypocrites beware

[zone]

It's so ridiculous, I can't believe what I'm reading sometimes (I'm quite serious). Such persecution these "prophets" endure. Eating their three-square a day in the comfort of their air-conditioned den/computer rooms. Maybe some even forced to speak on God's behalf with their $1,000.00 laptop while sitting poolside under the umbrella sipping some chilled Zinfandel. Must be treacherous to be one of them. Not a wonder they all subscribe to "Woe Is Me" monthly. Truly a spectacle to behold.

ya....but oh....didn't it sound so sexy when VW got his "word of knowledge" during "worship" from his imaginary g-d?

vw's g-d:
"VW, my faithful servant....what do you get when you put a harlot in a wedding dress"?

of course, we have to imagine what vw's imaginary g-d told him during his time in "worship", but it was real bad because he apparently said whatever the horrible creature was, it wasn't anything he would give HIS SON TO MARRY.

~

i can dream, can't i?

 

[Red33]

Yep, they will not, still they refuse.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.

Your not open to hear the voice of God that has been established through the written word. You don't want to hear it and you block your ears from hearing how that God is a gatherer and not a scatterer and also other precious truths from God's word. But for the others that have not blocked their ears...

Mt 13:16,17 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17For verily I say unto you, (GOD IS SPEAKING NOW TO THOSE THAT HEAR) That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

Heb 2:1 We are to give more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

Jer 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

Lk 11:28,29 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it. 29And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

Do you refuse to gather yourself with the people of God and be a gatherer or will you continue to speak those things that scatter the flock? We have God's peace, for Christ is our peace (Eph 2:14), so we are not looking for it and have no desire for the peace the world has to offer (Jn 14:26). Our peace was made through the blood of the cross (Col 1:20) that has reconciled us to God.

Do you ignore and put aside these scriptures that the Lord spoke unto His disciples...

Jn 14:26 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Jn 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

and these also...

Col 3:15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

Phil 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

 

[VW]

If you do not lime what I write, then do not read it. If it upsets you, then there is a reason, and I would find this reason, if I was you, bit that is your choice. I do not make judgments on anyone. If they feel judged, I cannot answer for that. I have not condemned anyone to eternal separation from God.

So, I really do not see the problem.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.
As you see these things, look up, for your redemption draws near.

 

[AnandaHya]

careful Red you might get these scriptures out of context quoted back to you....

Jeremiah 28 is an interesting read about two warring prophets...

of course we have Jeremiah 14 and its talk about Bablyonian...

he'll want to quote you verses 20 to 22 to justify the "repent" rant and not listen to what God says in return about His peace...

also we have Ezekiel 13

I like these verses:

22 “Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and you have strengthened the hands of the wicked, so that he does not turn from his wicked way to save his life. 23 Therefore you shall no longer envision futility nor practice divination; for I will deliver My people out of your hand, and you shall know that I am the LORD.”’”

For those little children. Remember God loves you and washes you clean of all sin. don't let anyone tell you you are unworthy. don't let the words make you sad. it is not YOUR righteousness that you are clothe with but Jesus and Satan can find no fault in that armor.

Remember God's words:

Col 3:15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

Phil 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

(ps thanks Red saved me the trouble of looking it up )

 

[AnandaHya]

If you do not lime what I write, then do not read it. If it upsets you, then there is a reason, and I would find this reason, if I was you, bit that is your choice. I do not make judgments on anyone. If they feel judged, I cannot answer for that. I have not condemned anyone to eternal separation from God.

So, I really do not see the problem.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.
As you see these things, look up, for your redemption draws near.

it upsets me and I KNOW The reason. if I read your words ten years ago I would never have come to Jesus because I would have thought I was unworthy, but no you don't see the problem.

nevermind, I'm going for that walk.

 

[VW]

it upsets me and I KNOW The reason. if I read your words ten years ago I would never have come to Jesus because I would have thought I was unworthy, but no you don't see the problem.

nevermind, I'm going for that walk.

That makes no sense at all.

Why come to a savior if we do not need one? And these words are not for baby christians, but for those who should have grown into adults and have not.

Have a nice walk. But do not blame me for the message.

Repent, for the day of the Lord draws near.

Look up, for your redemption draws near.

 

[VW]

Your not open to hear the voice of God that has been established through the written word. You don't want to hear it and you block your ears from hearing how that God is a gatherer and not a scatterer and also other precious truths from God's word. But for the others that have not blocked their ears...

Mt 13:16,17 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17For verily I say unto you, (GOD IS SPEAKING NOW TO THOSE THAT HEAR) That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

Heb 2:1 We are to give more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

Jer 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

Lk 11:28,29 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it. 29And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

Do you refuse to gather yourself with the people of God and be a gatherer or will you continue to speak those things that scatter the flock? We have God's peace, for Christ is our peace (Eph 2:14), so we are not looking for it and have no desire for the peace the world has to offer (Jn 14:26). Our peace was made through the blood of the cross (Col 1:20) that has reconciled us to God.

Do you ignore and put aside these scriptures that the Lord spoke unto His disciples...

Jn 14:26 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Jn 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

and these also...

Col 3:15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

Phil 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Read the scriptures and see, make a record, of just how many times we are warned, the same warnings I have given here. Then come back and tell us of the number of times we are warned in scriptures. Oh, and don't worry about the old testament, just use the letters of Paul. No need to search Peter or James or John, just the letters from Paul should suffice.

Oh yeah, don't leave any warnings out. Count ever one.

In Christ,
Repent, for the day of the Lord draws near.

 

[VW]

I think God does speak to VW.

God has told him to repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.

God told him not to answer critics (but we can see his obedience to that is not complete)

God has told him that he is being a hypocrite (but he prefers to think the message is for someone else)

God has told him he has strongholds and walls that cause him to not listen to the words of GOD (but he thinks that is for others as well)

I don't know I don't really have anything to say except perhaps you should reread your words and say "hey I guess God was talking to just me not the whole world"

God does not send His messages with out addressing them TO PEOPLE. who is this letter addressed to?

VW

but hey its nicer to think its for others and not yourself. it is easier to think the message is not for me, I've done my part, blah blah blah. me me me

that is all I see from these words

lets not change the topic. lets not talk about people who are actually in need. lets not learn how to tell people about Jesus, not just open this thread if you need a bit of condemnation with your self hatred and self pity. If you don't then obviously this thread is not about you and you should ignore the things it does to people who are already hurting.

you should ignore me telling them they are unworthy harlots but no I'm not saying it I'm letting their own hearts tell them this so its not me GOD.

see how well that holds up before the Heavenly Father when your words causes someone to commit suicide.

of course we can see this thread is not about them. no don't have any time to comfort the rape victims that feel like whores. we have to attend to VW's needs.

nevermind ignore the question, just as you would ignore the child. its not part of your "prophecy"

He did, and I did. Now it is your turn.

Look up, for your redemption draws near.

 

[AnandaHya]

And these words are not for baby christians, but for those who should have grown into adults and have not.

YOU make NO SENSE!

ONE JESUS TOLD THE PHARISEES they were HYPOCRITES and they HAVE NO part in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

you admit that you "used to be a hyprocrite" so those words "used to be for you" but I tell you they still apply TODAY.

you do not see past your plank.

1. what do you call an immature Christian? One that hasn't grown up?

A BABY!

so who are you REALLY talking to?

I'll tell you who you are not talking to:

1. mature christains who have called you out on your words and because it does not apply to them since they are not hypocrites

2. unsaved people who don't know Jesus, who would run away in tears because of your words or never admit they are hypocrites

3. not baby christians who are not in need of your words but comfort edification and exhortation on how to walk with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and His Words as Spotlights on their life

So who is left?

I see one person who needs to read those words again.

 

[VW]

then you have not been paying attention. VW first words were fine with me, it was his subsequent words and condemnation he spoke to others I found offensive. it is when he tells us God tells him to condemn His church that I must say that is a lie. It is when he made the statement about a whore in a wedding dress and how God will not accept that and implying that those in the church are whores that I find offensive. Even after many have told him that the church is not a building, not a denomination but PEOPLE God has called out to be HIS. PEOPLE he call out daily to be His BRIDE to make up His body.

That is what I find offensive. Defend him if you want since he loves the attention. just be careful you don't get bitten by his little pet. not all eggs hatch chickens.

as for sowing discord, what do you call telling people they are unworthy whores qualify as? love, comfort edification? do you really find it a just exhortation?

but no VW didn't call them whores he just planted the seed and allows them to come to that conclusion themselves.

I don't chose to be a teacher, I chose to be a child of God part of His earthly church.

VW choses to be a self proclaimed prophet and mouthpiece of GOD and you chose to defend him?

I am sorry that this offended you. I was offended even more, and do you know, I interceded right then. Have you? No, all you can do is find fault with the messenger. If we were understanding of God, we would know that He tends to send messengers who offend. His choice, not the messengers choice.

You and the others always take the message and make it to be about me, and never even touch the message itself. That is very telling, don't you think.

In Christ, who is coming soon, to render judgment swiftly, to the just and the unjust.

 

[VW]

LOL!
you think that's about YOU????
of course you do.

No, it is actually about those who are in Christ. All of those who are in Christ.

If you had ever heard my words, you would know that all I have ever truly said is that we need to abide in Christ.

but you find this offensive.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.

 

[AnandaHya]

He did, and I did. Now it is your turn.

Look up, for your redemption draws near.

wrong my redeemer is here:

Romans 10:8-10
New King James Version (NKJV)
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”[a](that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

 

[Abiding]

I'm still lost unless this is a fall on your own sword demo. We are all called to reach out to a brother in meekness and restore
his tender heart, tenderly. Sometimes its a rebuke if necessary, but it regards his restoration. Just watching how you deflect
questions. And show no desire to be corrected is scary. I'm never as confident in my walk as I am in the fellowship of believers
mixing to the point of at least partial openness. If I don't fit anywhere, i'm just insecure spiritually. I don't mean a people pleaser.
I mean the body of Christ. The church, where we are all joined. Not in a gang, but in the body.

 

[AnandaHya]

I am sorry that this offended you. I was offended even more, and do you know, I interceded right then. Have you? No, all you can do is find fault with the messenger. If we were understanding of God, we would know that He tends to send messengers who offend. His choice, not the messengers choice.

You and the others always take the message and make it to be about me, and never even touch the message itself. That is very telling, don't you think.

In Christ, who is coming soon, to render judgment swiftly, to the just and the unjust.

get over yourself VW, its not about you but what YOU DO and what you have posted and said.

I have told you YOUR MESSAGE IS OFFENSIVE and NOT FROM GOD.

YOU don't even know who you are speaking to or how much harm you do to those who are listening and you DON"T EVEN CARE because you claim to speak a message from GOD that is NOT from GOD.

you plant seeds of doubt and seeds of fear and seeds of discord and claim that God sent you out to do it, yet get upset when someone says.

wait VW read this BIBLE verse we don't think what you are doing is from God. Wait VW you are harming these people with your words and making their shield of faith weaker. Wait you should stop VW you are SINNING.

Yes God will judge.

LOL trust me I do much more with my day then "pick on VW" you do not know even the half of it but what is done is done for GOD's glory and so that people might know that God loves them and wants them to come back into a loving and right relationship with HIM.

some days I wonder why do I even try, but you know what God says?

Matthew 5:44-46
New King James Version (NKJV)
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,[a] 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?

 

[AnandaHya]

You do understand that a harlot is one who is promised to another and yet gives themselves to someone else? God detests harlots. He will not give His Son a harlot in a bride's dress. Those who are made clean do have a small part in this process. They seek and desire this to happen, no matter the cost. Too many today are not even aware of the need to be changed into His image. They believe that they are perfectly okay just as they were on the day that God gave them grace, which grace is the indwelling Holy Spirit. But they have continuously grieved Him day after day. I don't suppose you would congratulate them for their dedication, would you? God won't.

In Christ,

before you go into a rant. I find the ABOVE words offensive. NOT ALL of your words just the ones above and you have yet to say anything of comfort or edification concerning them or my question.

you would have those children forever seeking to be "good enough" and to be "changed into His image"

You tell them they " continously grieve Him day after day" and that God won't congratulate them for their dedication.

you say "God detests harlots"

you do not mention how God heals and cleanse people of their past sins. you do not tell how Jesus ate with sinners, tax collectors and whores. How He told them they too can enter the kingdom of Heaven.

You refuse to see how your words LIE.

or to give abused people who FEEL like Hypocrites comfort by telling them they are not. that what was done to them does not make them harlots or unworthy of God's love.

no you make cryptic mystical statements like "look up your redeemer is near"

SORRY VW its not good enough.

All I ask is for some Biblical truth. Some truth about how GOD really feels about His people. How about this:

who is your message about hypocrites REALLY for?

oh by the way, if they truly had the HOLY Spirit in them, they would be convicted and turn from their sin. if they do not or have not then they deceive themselves and do not have the Holy Spirit at all. IF they think they can live in sin then they are NOT truly saved for they have not truly repented at all.

the message about hypocrites isn't for believers but for those who delude themselves and call themselves Christians and are not for they do not have the Holy Spirit guiding them and sanctifying them to begin with.

 

[Red33]

If you do not lime what I write, then do not read it. If it upsets you, then there is a reason, and I would find this reason, if I was you, bit that is your choice. I do not make judgments on anyone. If they feel judged, I cannot answer for that. I have not condemned anyone to eternal separation from God.

So, I really do not see the problem.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.
As you see these things, look up, for your redemption draws near.

When we possess God's great peace, we have no active negativity and no longer are our emotions stimulated by the flesh or the self life of our adamic nature. Everything that our sin nature produces through the flesh toward ourself and others is no longer in control of our emotions because we are abiding in this great peace (Ps 119:165, Is 54:13,14). Being angry or upset with others is not possible because we are not living in the emotional responses of our self-life. This great peace settles the mind through mercy (Is 26:3, 85:7-10), rules the heart with grace (Col 3:15) and stills the emotions with quietness and confidence through faith-rest (Is 32:17).

When this kind of peace takes over our soul with no inner conflicts, no striving in the flesh and no anxiety or disturbances in our subconscious capacity. When we go to bed at night our sleep is sweet (Prov 3:24, Jer 31:26), because we have this peace flooding our unconscious capacity that involves every detail of the past. Because this peace comes from the effectual work of the blood of Christ, that has dealt with every sin, every motion of sin and the effects of sin in the conscience (Rom 7:5, Heb 9:14, 10:2), we have no active disturbances being aroused or stimulating our subconscious and unconscious capacity and we are able to completely rest without any flesh and blood stimulations involving our sin nature. In this restful state the body is able to produce the right hormones that have a tranquilizing effect upon the central nervous system and we are able to completely relax and fall asleep without effort.

 

[AnandaHya]

When we possess God's great peace, we have no active negativity and no longer are our emotions stimulated by the flesh or the self life of our adamic nature. Everything that our sin nature produces through the flesh toward ourself and others is no longer in control of our emotions because we are abiding in this great peace (Ps 119:165, Is 54:13,14). Being angry or upset with others is not possible because we are not living in the emotional responses of our self-life. This great peace settles the mind through mercy (Is 26:3, 85:7-10), rules the heart with grace (Col 3:15) and stills the emotions with quietness and confidence through faith-rest (Is 32:17).

When this kind of peace takes over our soul with no inner conflicts, no striving in the flesh and no anxiety or disturbances in our subconscious capacity. When we go to bed at night our sleep is sweet (Prov 3:24, Jer 31:26), because we have this peace flooding our unconscious capacity that involves every detail of the past. Because this peace comes from the effectual work of the blood of Christ, that has dealt with every sin, every motion of sin and the effects of sin in the conscience (Rom 7:5, Heb 9:14, 10:2), we have no active disturbances being aroused or stimulating our subconscious and unconscious capacity and we are able to completely rest without any flesh and blood stimulations involving our sin nature. In this restful state the body is able to produce the right hormones that have a tranquilizing effect upon the central nervous system and we are able to completely relax and fall asleep without effort.

thanks Red

 

[zone]

No, it is actually about those who are in Christ. All of those who are in Christ.

If you had ever heard my words, you would know that all I have ever truly said is that we need to abide in Christ.

but you find this offensive.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.

no i find you offensive and dangerous.
i'm actually going to start doing something i rarely do: spiritual warfare >> by taking this to Christ.
i'm going to start actually asking the Lord Himself to intervene here and deal with you...something i have not yet done, but am starting NOW.

 

[Nalu]

sorry it took so long to bann frogguy id have figured ya all to have reported him yesterday Hey all!

Now if I am not mistaken frogguy and Toaddude were a Tv wrestling team back in the late 60's. That wore elaborate costumes and mask's and stuff, but I have been wrong before, so don't quote me on this.

 

[AnandaHya]

Now if I am not mistaken frogguy and Toaddude were a Tv wrestling team back in the late 60's. That wore elaborate costumes and mask's and stuff, but I have been wrong before, so don't quote me on this.

lol is it this guy?