Ball Earth conundrums

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DavidTree

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Moses_Young said:
Lol. There are some that say they can see it when they climb up a mountain. They gotta realise that a panoramic view is not evidence of ball-Earth! :)
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They also do not realize how deep and completely covering the deception is.

As you previously stated, they eagerly take in all that they are told with the example of the 'experimental vaxx' as a clear inidicator as to how far society has been dumbed down.
 
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DavidTree said:
They also do not realize how deep and completely covering the deception is.

As you previously stated, they eagerly take in all that they are told with the example of the 'experimental vaxx' as a clear inidicator as to how far society has been dumbed down.
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Reciting all the propaganda as if memorising lies is the measure of how clever one is. Very sad.
 
Billyd

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If I fail to correct for the curvature of the Earth when I launch a ballistic missile, I will never hit my target.

If I fail to correct for the curvature of the earth, those wonderful satellites that orbit the Earth and provide me with my position accurate to .00001 meters, would never get me close to where I am.

If it were not for the curvature of the Earth, we could not place a satellite in geostationary orbit around it.

I suggest that all you flat earthers take an introductory course in Astronomy.
 
DavidTree

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Billyd said:
If I fail to correct for the curvature of the Earth when I launch a ballistic missile, I will never hit my target.

If I fail to correct for the curvature of the earth, those wonderful satellites that orbit the Earth and provide me with my position accurate to .00001 meters, would never get me close to where I am.

If it were not for the curvature of the Earth, we could not place a satellite in geostationary orbit around it.

I suggest that all you flat earthers take an introductory course in Astronomy.
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https://theunexpectedcosmology.com/...th-a-zoom-proves-yet-again-the-world-is-flat/
 
Dude653

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Also how do you get day and night on a flat earth? Try shining a flashlight on a flat surface.
 
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Dude653 said:
If the Earth were flat, the Earth would cast a flat shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse. It doesn't
Also gravity would pull everything sideways instead of down
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In the FE model, it is impossible for the earth to cast a shadow (of any kind) on the moon.

In the FE model, 'gravity' - as it has been taught to you - does not exist. Therefore, your point is moot.
 
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GaryA said:
In the FE model, it is impossible for the earth to cast a shadow (of any kind) on the moon.

In the FE model, 'gravity' - as it has been taught to you - does not exist. Therefore, your point is moot.
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I'm not floating around right now so gravity seems to be working
 
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Dude653 said:
I'm not floating around right now so gravity seems to be working
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Well, you certainly are standing on mostly level ground by which the LAW of physics adheres your body to.
Amazingly, water obeys only the LAW of physics governing it and so water completely rejects any such thing as gravity.

Simple test: scoop a bucket in the ocean at high tide, then place the bucket of ocean water on level ground = SEE what occurs.
Now take that bucket of ocean water and place it on uneven ground(with a incline and/or decline) = SEE what occurs.

Truly amazing.

"When He assigned to the sea its limit,
So that the waters would not transgress His command,
When He marked out the foundations of the earth,"
Proverbs 8:29
 
DavidTree

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Dude653 said:
I'm not floating around right now so gravity seems to be working
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Well, you certainly are standing on mostly level ground by which the LAW of physics adheres your body to.
Amazingly, water obeys only the LAW of physics governing it and so water completely rejects any such thing as gravity.

Simple test: scoop a bucket in the ocean at high tide, then place the bucket of ocean water on level ground = SEE what occurs.
Now take that bucket of ocean water and place it on uneven ground(with a incline and/or decline) = SEE what occurs.

Truly amazing.

"When He assigned to the sea its limit,
So that the waters would not transgress His command,
When He marked out the foundations of the earth,"
Proverbs 8:29

The bucket has boundaries which contain the water = the Earth has boundaries which contain the oceans/ lakes and rivers.

When these boundaries are removed or overcome = flooding occurs = see Genesis
Truly amazing
 
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DavidTree said:
Well, you certainly are standing on mostly level ground by which the LAW of physics adheres your body to.
Amazingly, water obeys only the LAW of physics governing it and so water completely rejects any such thing as gravity.

Simple test: scoop a bucket in the ocean at high tide, then place the bucket of ocean water on level ground = SEE what occurs.
Now take that bucket of ocean water and place it on uneven ground(with a incline and/or decline) = SEE what occurs.

Truly amazing.

"When He assigned to the sea its limit,
So that the waters would not transgress His command,
When He marked out the foundations of the earth,"
Proverbs 8:29
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A bucket of water on an incline?
I'm guessing the bucket will tip over because of gravity
 
DavidTree

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Dude653 said:
A bucket of water on an incline?
I'm guessing the bucket will tip over because of gravity
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non-existent gravity cannot be observed with water and the oceans

What is without question is LAW = water = it always seeks it own level = 24/7 everywhere on earth

Science Truth 101: The bucket has boundaries which contain the water = the Earth has boundaries which contain the oceans/ lakes and rivers.

When these boundaries are removed or overcome = flooding occurs = see Genesis
Truly amazing

"When He assigned to the sea its limit,
So that the waters would not transgress His command,
When He marked out the foundations of the earth,"
Proverbs 8:29
 
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If you assume outright that tides occur because of the gravitational "pull" of the moon ( the conclusion of modern science ) -- and then, you go gather the data that modern science has provided -- and, you look at all of the tide cycle patterns everywhere on Earth compared to the position and path of the moon at every precise moment in the tide cycles ----- what will you discover and determine?

Do the patterns match the position and path of the moon?

If they do not match, what does that tell you?

It tells you that modern science is claiming something false.

If they do match, what does that tell you?

It tells you that modern science has built a theory that matches the observation.

And, if so -- does this automatically mean that the theory is true?

No - it does not.

Yet - this has become the 'core' of modern science -- a collection of theories that are specifically designed to match observation -- while not necessarily having any actual resemblance to the true nature of reality.

( Now - just keep that in mind... )

Does the "pull" of the moon affect the Great Lakes? the Dead Sea? other large bodies of water?

How about smaller bodies of water? How about that favorite lake you like to fish on?

How about the water in that cup you are holding at the picnic out by the lake?

We have all heard that "they say" the "pull" of the moon will [ even ] affect the water in our body / brain.

Really?

( Just think for a moment about the different amounts of water in the bodies of humans, animals, plants -- and other things and places where water is concentrated. How should the gravitational "pull" of the moon affect each of them, according to the amount of water and the particular nature of the manner in which it is 'concentrated'? )

Should 'gravity' have a greater "pull" on a larger amount of water or a smaller amount of water?

Modern science will tell you that the gravitational pull of everything is the same on everything else. ( i.e. - the gravitational pull of a bowling ball on everything else around it will be the same - modified by inverse-of-the-square-of-the-distance, etc. )

Why does the "pull" of the moon [ really ] only [ actually ] affect the oceans?

Why is it that -- while standing on the beach of an ocean watching the tide go 'in' and 'out' -- while also watching the water in a glass on a table on that beach remain perfectly still in the glass --- why is it that a force so enormous - enough to 'overcome' the gravitational "pull" of the Earth directly below the ocean from so great a distance out in space - that can move many Gazillions of gallons of water in the ocean - and "hold it up" ( "ocean tide swell", for lack of a better term ) continually ( Do you really understand just how much force would be required to do this? ) --- why is it that it has no effect on the water in the glass? or, the clouds that are between the moon and the ocean? or, the water droplets that are falling from those clouds?

You mean to tell me that the gravitational "pull" of the moon can "hold up" many Gazillions of gallons of water in an ocean while having no effect whatsoever on a raindrop that is falling from a cloud - that is between the moon and the ocean - down to that ocean surface...??????????

"You are kidding --- right???"

( Think in terms of a Gazillions-of-gallons-of-water 'drop' versus a single rain 'drop'. The supposed effect of the "pull" of the moon is that it is able to "lift up and hold up" - [ the weight of ] that G-drop - several feet - as / in a continual action... But, has no effect whatsoever on a single rain drop??? Are you with me so far? Now - just think about that for a while... )

Why doesn't the "pull" of the moon affect the water content of the atmosphere between it and the Earth?

You mean to tell me that the gravitational "pull" of the moon can "hold up" many Gazillions of gallons of water in an ocean while having no effect whatsoever on water vapor in the atmosphere...??????????

"You are kidding --- right???"

Any water vapor - in the atmosphere or anywhere else - that is not specifically being driven downward by the wind - should be rising upwards continually ( even slowly ) - right?

If we place water vapor in a bell jar - completely isolated - no wind currents at all - with the moon directly overhead -- will the water vapor rise upward until it reaches the 'hard' physical limit of the glass at the top of the bell jar?

Don't give me any crap about air pressure, blah blah blah, etc. ----- if the "pull" of the moon can "break" all of those physical laws out in the open ( where so many more / other physical laws come into play ) with the exceedingly-more-heavy oceans - then - it would absolutely have no problem whatsoever "sucking" the water vapor in the bell jar to the top of the bell jar.

The "fluid dynamics" of the liquid water in the oceans would be a much greater "foe" for the "pull" of the moon to overcome than would be the "fluid dynamics" of the water vapor in the bell jar.

These are the kinds of things you need to think about. Expand your awareness to the "bigger picture" of things.

And -- if you study this "opinion" of modern science carefully enough - utilizing the actual 'physics' that is behind the claim -- I believe that you will discover that the gravitational "pull" of the moon ( or the Earth or anything else ) will be much greater on water vapor than it will be on many Gazillions of gallons of water.

In other words, there would be a much greater 'resistance' to the "pull" of the moon from the localized physical properties of a larger amount of water than of a smaller amount of water.

Why does the "pull" of the moon affect the huge amounts of water so massively while having no effect whatsoever on the smaller amounts of water?

Here is another question to consider:

Does the "pull" of the moon affect anything other than water?

If not, then -- why not?

If it does, then -- what effects would there be from it?

If the "pull" of the moon has such a great effect on the oceans --- why does it have no effect whatsoever on a butterfly or a soap bubble floating in air?
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Do you believe the Earth is flat?
 
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DavidTree said:
https://theunexpectedcosmology.com/...th-a-zoom-proves-yet-again-the-world-is-flat/
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I don't normally respond to posts like this, but you drawing shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that the earth is round and also a ball. Go back and complete your basic Geometry course.

I'll leave you with this fact. A direct (straight line over the surface of the earth) flight to Madrid from New York is longer than a Great Circle flight. If the Earth were flat, the distance would be the same.

https://gisgeography.com/great-circle-geodesic-line-shortest-flight-path/
 
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Billyd said:
I don't normally respond to posts like this, but you drawing shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that the earth is round and also a ball. Go back and complete your basic Geometry course.

I'll leave you with this fact. A direct (straight line over the surface of the earth) flight to Madrid from New York is longer than a Great Circle flight. If the Earth were flat, the distance would be the same.

https://gisgeography.com/great-circle-geodesic-line-shortest-flight-path/
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God throws water in the face of all who believe in a globe earth spinning thru space.

The most profound truths that the Creator has spoken were for children to understand.

Water is one of them.

Please go back to basic Laws of Physics and pray.

See Post #130 and #132

Peace and Blessing to you my Brother in Christ
 
Dude653

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DavidTree said:
non-existent gravity cannot be observed with water and the oceans

What is without question is LAW = water = it always seeks it own level = 24/7 everywhere on earth

Science Truth 101: The bucket has boundaries which contain the water = the Earth has boundaries which contain the oceans/ lakes and rivers.

When these boundaries are removed or overcome = flooding occurs = see Genesis
Truly amazing

"When He assigned to the sea its limit,
So that the waters would not transgress His command,
When He marked out the foundations of the earth,"
Proverbs 8:29
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Also during the flood, how did the water reach the ground with no gravity?
 
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