The State of the World Today! Is it the Endtimes??????

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ZNP

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yes
 

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I don't know because people have been saying we're in the end times for like 2,000 years now
 
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I have little doubt we are in the end times everything points to it, when? no one knows but with globalisation of everything and technology advancing too fast for our own good it could be within a few years.
 

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If everyone were as concerned about the lost as they are about predicting the end times, what would our world look like?
 

ZNP

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If everyone were as concerned about the lost as they are about predicting the end times, what would our world look like?
25% of the Bible talks about the end times because being aware of that makes one more concerned about being lost and about the lost.
 

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25% of the Bible talks about the end times because being aware of that makes one more concerned about being lost and about the lost.
It is much easier to share the Gospel to one who has been comforted than it is to one who you try to convince that the end times are near.
 

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It is much easier to share the Gospel to one who has been comforted than it is to one who you try to convince that the end times are near.
What happens when you are living in the tribulation, you have the antichrist trying to deceive if possible the elect, and you have the false prophet doing miracles and you were never taught about any of this? I'll trust God on this than someones good idea about what is good and what isn't for the gospel.

Paul said he didn't shrink back from sharing the entire counsel of God.

People today are not stupid, they realize something bizarre is going on, they go to church and if you don't give them the light that will light the path for them they will go somewhere else.
 
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Dalits AKA Untouchables. The government of India 'prefers' Buddhism. Or at least makes it easier for Buddhists to get aid.


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Govt: Christianity, Islam don’t have ‘backwardness’, converts can’t get SC tag




NEW DELHI: The Centre has told the Supreme Court that Dalits converted to Christians and Islam cannot be given Scheduled Caste status to get benefits of reservation as there is no backwardness or oppression in those religions.

The ministry of social justice and empowerment in an affidavit filed in the apex court said the Constitution (Scheduled Castes) Order of 1950 does not suffer from any unconstitutionality and it is legal and valid. The Centre was responding on a plea of NGO Centre for Public Interest Litigation (CPIL) seeking extension of reservation and other benefits to people from Dalit communities who embraced Islam and Christianity.

“The Constitution (Scheduled Caste) Order, 1950 was based on historical data which clearly established that no such backwardness or oppression was ever faced by members of Christian or Islamic Society. In fact, one of the reasons for which people from Scheduled Castes have been converting to religions like Islam or Christianity is so that they can come out of the oppressive system of untouchability which is not prevalent at all in Christianity or Islam,” the affidavit said.

The ministry also submitted that the identification of Scheduled Castes is centred around a specific social stigma that is limited to the communities identified in the Constitution (Scheduled Castes) Order, 1950 and the order was based on historical data which clearly established that no such backwardness or oppression was ever faced by members of Christian or Islamic society.

“In fact, one of the reasons for which people from Scheduled Castes have been converting to religions like Islam or Christianity is so that they can come out of the oppressive system of untouchability which is not prevalent at all in Christianity or Islam,” the affidavit said.

The government also expressed its disagreement with the report of the Justice Ranganath Mishra Commission which recommended inclusion of Dalit Christians and Dalit Muslims in the Scheduled Castes list, and said it took a myopic view and its findings are flawed.

The Centre differentiated the Dalits who embraced Buddhism from their counterparts who converted to Islam and Christianity. The affidavit said: “Scheduled Casts embraced Buddhism voluntarily at the call of Dr Ambedkar in 1956 on account of some innate socio-political imperatives. The original castes/ community of such converts can clearly be determined. This cannot be said in respect of Christians and Muslims, who might have converted on account of other factors, since the process of such conversions has been taken place over the centuries.”
 
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Synopsis of the world Pages 1 - 6 Possibly some info sourced from UN. Possibly all???
What the Globalists have planned?????
Humanity is changing, day by day, in ways we can’t perceive over short period. ()© Provided by ABC NEWSThis week, the world's population ticks over a historic milestone. But in the next century, society will be reshaped dramatically — and soon we'll hit a decline we'll never reverse.

We never know precisely how many of us are alive at any one time, but this Tuesday is the United Nations’ best estimate on when we’ll reach 8 billion human beings. Eight billion. It's a number too big to imagine but think of it this way: In the time it takes you to read this paragraph, the world's population grew by around 20 people.

While the Earth's population is growing quickly, the growth rate is starting to slow down. Eventually, it will start falling and our societies will shrink.

Humanity is changing day by day in ways we can't perceive over short periods, but in ways that will reshape our world over the coming century.

We've already hit peak child – there will never again be more children alive than there are today, with fertility rates plummeting across the globe.

We're getting older and older, which means there are fewer people able to work to support more people who can't.

Cities are expanding, chewing up arable farmland as they go.

We're seeing a major shake-up of the huge population centres of the world.

"This is a fundamental transformation of what a society looks like," Elin Charles-Edwards from the University of Queensland says.

"We've gone through a pretty extraordinary period in the 20th century into the 21st century, where we've gone from demographic regimes in which there are lots of children and people were dying younger to a period of really rapid growth."

We now need to grapple with the consequences — and the opportunities.

But to understand what it all means we need to start at the beginning.

Homo sapiens have roamed the Earth for roughly 300,000 years, give or take (no one left a diary back then).

We evolved to have big brains and long legs, but our population grew relatively slowly at first.

There were perhaps 230 million of us on Earth at around the time of Cleopatra's death, as the ancient Egyptian civilisation came to an end.

The population had more than doubled by the Renaissance in 1500 and doubled again by 1805 when the ancient Egyptian civilisation was being rediscovered with the help of the Rosetta Stone.

These are all pretty rough estimates — we didn't have comprehensive censuses in the Middle Ages – but the human population has been on a slow burn, until recent centuries, when it has boomed.
[Estimated global population from 10,000 BCE to 2021]

The 2 billion mark was reached just before the Great Depression in 1925, and it took just 35 years from there to get to the third billion.
Since then, the population has been rising by another billion every 10 to 15 years. Where are we going?
The world is likely to have a couple more billion mouths to feed in just a few decades.

The UN's latest projections, released earlier this year, suggest the world will house about 9.7 billion humans in 2050.

"Demographic projections are highly accurate, and it has to do with the fact that most of the people who will be alive in 30 years have already been born," the UN's population division director, John Willmoth, says.

"But when you start getting 70, 80 years down the road, there's much more uncertainty."

Under its most likely scenario, the UN projects the world population will reach about 10.4 billion in the 2080s.

From there, it's set to plateau for a couple of decades, before falling around the turn of the 22nd century.

But the range of reasonable possibilities in 2100 is considerably wider, between 8.9 and 12.4 billion.
[The UN forecasts the world population will grow to 10 billion]

There's another international model of population growth, published by the health data research group the IHME, which forecasts an earlier population peak and a faster decline.

"The major reason that we forecast a different global population in the last third of the century comes from how we are modelling fertility," senior research manager Amanda Smith says.

"Our model suggests that we expect fertility to continue to decline through the end of the century in many countries, and that's contributing to a larger and a faster global population decline than the United Nations projections."

The magic "replacement number" is 2.1: If women on average have more children than that each, the population of the world grows. If fertility rates are lower, the population shrinks.

And that's where we're heading.

"We have now reached peak child," Dr Charles-Edwards says. "There will never be more children alive on the Earth than there is today."

Fertility peaked in the 1950s when women were, on average, having five children each.

That number varied dramatically between regions of the world.

But since then, fertility rates have reliably fallen. In fact, in some parts of the world, including Australia, Europe, North America, and some parts of Asia, fertility rates are already below that replacement number.
[Fertility rates are already below replacement level in some areas]

The differing fertility rates across regions mean that population declines will be seen in some regions before others.

It has already started in some nations. Shrinking countries

Around the Baltics, the nations of Bulgaria, Lithuania, Latvia and Serbia are all at least 1 per cent smaller this year than they were last year, according to the UN's figures.

Ukraine shrunk by considerably more — a consequence of emigration sparked by the ongoing war.

Scores more countries are expected to have smaller populations in 2050 than they have now.
[Countries projected to have smaller populations in 2050 than today]

They're the countries with low fertility rates and immigration levels that are not high enough to make up the difference.

Continued next post maybe
 
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Continued from #11 Synopsis of the world population projections
Because fertility rates are falling everywhere, as the decades continue, more and more countries on that map will get coloured in.

And gradually, the world will get older. We can't shy away from old age

Humans like to focus on the start of life and not the end. We're not good at talking about ageing and death.

But the change in the world's demographics will transform our society, and we can't hide from it.

"If you want to think about the future demographic challenges, I think population ageing is probably number one in terms of people needing to change the way they do things, their expectations, governments needing to change public systems that support the older population," Mr Willmoth says.

Some of the consequences are relatively obvious, such as greater demand for health and aged care services.

The IHME's Amanda Smith says as part of that we should expect "a shift toward a larger burden of disease coming from non-communicable diseases," and that in many countries the COVID-19 pandemic has exposed weaknesses that will need to be addressed.

Dr Charles-Edwards says our tax base will have to support more and more people.

Countries with government-funded aged pension schemes will see welfare costs go up, and then there's the issue of having enough workers.

"We're going to have more and more countries where there are more older people than young children," she says.

"This is going to really shape the way we make decisions about how we govern, how we spend our money. It's a massive cultural change."

Families are getting smaller, and downsizing houses for the elderly is already on the agenda in many ageing countries, Australia included.

But what about our transport systems, which are great at getting people to and from offices in capital cities but not so good at getting us to shops, parks, doctors’ clinics and across suburbs?

What happens when fewer of us go to work every day, and more of us need help to get around?

It's not just the makeup of our societies that will be reshaped, but the texture of our cities and the way we move around them.

"We do need to be designing cities, for example, in somewhere like Australia, with a view that there are going to be many more older Australians here, so thinking about walkability and accessibility is all really, really important," Dr Charles-Edwards says.

It will change workplaces, too. With fewer workers available and more caring jobs required to look after the ageing cohort, companies may have to look to automation, artificial intelligence and robotics to help fill the gaps.

Entrepreneur and artificial intelligence expert Vaibhav Namburi says workplaces may look very different with the increased use of automation.

"I think in the next 10, 20 or 30 years we're going to see a lot of 'mundane' or repetitive jobs be phased out, and those people [will] be retrained to be focused on more upper-level skills," he says.

So maybe we'll all be working smarter, but will we also be working harder? After all, during the pandemic, remote work has led to many of us working longer hours.

"[That] was actually counter to what the entire remote flexible work lifestyle was meant to bring," Mr Namburi says.

"I've fingers crossed that the next hundred years is more focused towards the mental health aspect of our work-life balance."
The countries growing fast
Some parts of the world are facing a different problem.

In the map we saw earlier, you might have noticed there were no nations in Africa on the population decline.

In fact, Africa is one of the fastest-growing places on Earth right now.

Just eight countries are projected to be responsible for more than half the world's population increase by 2050.

One of them is India, which is set to overtake China as the most populous country in the world next year.

Pakistan and the Philippines are also on the list, and the remaining five are all in Africa: Nigeria, Tanzania, Ethiopia, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Egypt.
[These eight countries will contribute more than half the world's population increase to 2050]

Sub-Saharan Africa, in particular, is growing fast.

It is projected to contain about a third of the world’s population at the end of the century, although there is a lot of uncertainty about projections that far out.
[Africa is projected to have 38 per cent of the world's population in 2100]
That's a lot of extra people in a region of the world with some of the highest levels of extreme poverty.

Ensuring food production keeps up with the twin pressures of a growing population and the effects of climate change is the focus of a lot of development attention.

World Vision's CEO Daniel Wordsworth says it's a significant challenge in places such as Somalia, which is currently facing its worst drought in decades.

"I think about it a little bit like a whole bunch of fishing lines that are all tangled up," he says.

"There's no root-cause driver, but there are all of these interconnecting forces that are reinforcing one another and creating these gnarly knots that are making life incredibly difficult.

"You have climate change in a place like Somalia … in a place that's had five years of drought.

"You also have a country that's gone through, like all of us, two years of economic lockdown and shutdowns … and this country is in conflict."

Dr Rachel Carey, a sustainable food systems expert from the University of Melbourne, says growing enough food isn't really the biggest problem.

"To date the world has managed to keep pace with food production, the world has produced enough food," she says.

"Certainly we see local shortages of food at different times, and that could be due to issues around climate change, also conflict and war, but there has been enough food produced around the world.

"The key issue has been about how that food is actually distributed and the inequality in the way that is done currently."

The world is also being shaped by rapid urbanisation, which accelerated in the 20th century.

More people have lived in cities than rural areas since 2017.

The share of the population in our cities will continue to grow from the 55 per cent it currently is.
[More people have lived in cities than rural areas since 2007]

Dr Carey says that's likely to impact how much prime agricultural land is available, and could put pressure on food production in future.

"Cities are often built in fertile plains and close to rivers, close to good sources of food," she says.

"As cities grow, many are growing out as well as growing up, and often growing into highly fertile areas of farmland."

Researchers are working on technology that could help, including at the University of Sydney which is working on robotic farming technology.

There's a lot of work being done, but ultimately, Dr Rachel Carey says we're not yet doing enough.

"We need to do much more, and I think we need to do it much faster," she says. Can we meet the challenges?

So what kind of life will 9 billion people on Earth live?

Fewer babies will lead to fewer workers, and will that lead to a smaller economy? How will we solve the challenge of providing a comfortable retirement for all? Do we need to rethink how we design cities for more and more older people who aren't commuting to offices? Will the robots and artificial intelligence of the fourth industrial revolution finally deliver the promise of less work and more leisure?

You might think this sounds like the start of a sci-fi dystopia, but the experts say it's not all doom and gloom.

"As a demographer, we're really optimistic people because we've seen massive change over the past 100 years," Dr Charles-Edwards says.

"Everyone's living longer, fewer babies are dying, fewer women are dying.

"Across a whole range of metrics, we're doing better than we did. We've seen lots of small actions creating massive change for people."

But, like most global problems, the impacts won't be shared equally and richer countries face the linked challenge of what they're prepared to sacrifice to help others.

"We know that some of the most vulnerable communities are going to be the most impacted," Dr Elin Charles-Edwards says.

"If you're rich, you are able to adapt in a way that you just can't do if there's not the resources there.

"Climate change is the big elephant in the room here. We know that some of the places that are going to face the most impact are the least resilient, and so that is something that we need to be mindful of as well."

The challenge is set. It's up to humanity to work out what to do next.

Join Casey Briggs at 8pm on Tuesday for an ABC News Channel special on world population.


 

Dude653

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I don't know. People were saying that 2,000 years
 

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I don't know because people have been saying we're in the end times for like 2,000 years now
indeed, the Apostolic writings say it. they typically call it the last days.

for example, the writer to the Hebrews basically begins the letter with.
But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son (Heb 1:2)

the time between the times... between the first coming of Christ and His glorious return :)
 

Dude653

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indeed, the Apostolic writings say it. they typically call it the last days.

for example, the writer to the Hebrews basically begins the letter with.
But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son (Heb 1:2)

the time between the times... between the first coming of Christ and His glorious return :)
I'm pretty sure it says somewhere in the Bible that no one knows when the end is going to be so it's all speculation
 

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WOW!!!!!!!!!! So many serious responses to the initial post on this thread. Look at the initial post folks, it's just a humorous cartoon, a joke. I guess I should have posted it in the 'Show Us Something Funny' thread.

Really folks, you take it too seriously.
 

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If everyone were as concerned about the lost as they are about predicting the end times, what would our world look like?
At least 2/3 of the Bible is prophecy. So yes, it is of the utmost importance, and should never be avoided.

Paul was with the Thessalonians for maybe 3 short weeks, and end-time prophecy was one of his main concerns as regards his teaching priorities. Specifically end time prophecy.....for the Church. Which is the RAPTURE. Which is exactly the same as the ONLY end-time prophecy provided in the Gospel of John. This gospel focusing on the Church, unlike Matthew.
 

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I don't know because people have been saying we're in the end times for like 2,000 years now
There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that the end of the Church age (aka the rapture) is near to hand. I doubt we have 20 years left in this present Church age.

Then the 70th week of Daniel and the preaching baton gets passed to Israel.
Israel is in the land.....Israel God's timepiece and the Nation that ITSELF is a "sign".


Hos 5:14
For I will be like a lion to Ephraim,
And like a young lion to the house of Judah.
I, even I, will tear them and go away;
I will take them away, and no one shall rescue.

Hos 5:15
I will return again to My place
Till they acknowledge their offense.
Then they will seek My face;
In their affliction they will earnestly seek Me.”

Hos 6:1
Come, and let us return to the LORD;
For He has torn, but He will heal us;
He has stricken, but He will bind us up.

Hos 6:2
After two days He will revive us;
On the third day He will raise us up,
That we may live in His sight.
 

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Hos 6:2
After two days He will revive us; (2000 years)
On the third day He will raise us up, (the start of the millenium)
That we may live in His sight.
 

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Hos 6:2
After two days He will revive us; (2000 years)
On the third day He will raise us up, (the start of the millenium)
That we may live in His sight.
Yeah but there's a scripture somewhere in the Bible that says only God knows when the end is going to come so nothing we can really do but speculate