Clyburn "US will Repeat Nazi Germany if Republicans Get Power

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Yeah but she has been deceased for years and the main reason women have abortions is poverty as I mentioned before
This is called inconvenience friend.
I have been to Africa on missions and the families I've meet do not kill their babies because it is inconvenient.
And there is no American that is as poor as them.....

So it is okay to kill a baby over inconvenience?
 

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This is called inconvenience friend.
I have been to Africa on missions and the families I've meet do not kill their babies because it is inconvenient.
And there is no American that is as poor as them.....

So it is okay to kill a baby over inconvenience?
My point is Margaret sanger or her views are irrelevant because she's been deceased for like 60 years.
Unless her ghost is coming back and forcing women to have abortions or something
 
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Margaret Sanger has been deceased for 56 years now
So again, unless her ghost is coming back and forcing women to have abortions I don't see the relevance
Your missing the issue.
Answer the question for me of you would, cause I'm confused.
It is okay to kill a baby when _______?
 
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Okay, so is it 430 million or 63 million or 250 million abortions have happen since Roe happened?

This is my problem with getting information from PACs and various Christian prolife groups instead of actual medical data. They make up their own numbers and people just believe it. We ALWAYS have to check information!

Everyone lies.

The number most agree on is 63 million, those are the ones actually reported. That is more than the population of Canada. Whether is more or less it is too many. And no, not everyone lies. Abortion is America's greatest sin. No one can call themselves a believer and agree with abortion. Around 6 million Jews were murdered and we called that a Holocaust. What of 63 million unborn? Silent holocaust. The heart of God is grieved.
 

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Strange Fruit

Let's address this in reverse.

1. Politicians as a rule are hypocrites, and there have been many of these hypocrites prior to Trump who promised to put in pro life judges and yet somehow just weren't able. The bible says let every man be a liar and God alone be true. The fact that there are hypocrites and liars has nothing to do with the truth or the word of God. There will be a judgement, everyone will have to stand before the Lord and be judged for the things they have done.

2. Anyone familiar with the NT should know that the religious leaders and nation of Israel had fallen away from God when the Lord came. He chastised them saying that they would be judged because they did not see the day of their redemption. Paul told us we should not be surprised that Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. There are many churches that are "making their own rules" and deciding that many of the rules in the Bible "are out of date". That is the apostasy, to fall away from the word of God. When I stand before the Lord to be judged it will not help my case to say "hey, Pastor so and so said it was OK".

3. "Abortions here are primarily out of poverty and lack of education. They’re a result of generational curses and family force." OK, we have had Roe v. Wade for 50 years, has it reduced poverty? Has our education system improved as a result? We can argue all day about Margaret Sanger, Nazi's, Satanists, Moloch and Baal worship, blood sacrifices and what abortion is really all about. But if you are contending this is done in America to help with poverty and education, show me the proof that it helps. I disagree with this contention, I know this is what they say, but we have already agreed in points 1 and 2 that they are liars and hypocrites. So who cares what they say, what is the fruit of this tree?
You know what hypocritical? To claim to be pro-life but to say all those people who died at 9/11, their lives don't matter
 
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My point is Margaret sanger or her views are irrelevant because she's been deceased for like 60 years.
Unless her ghost is coming back and forcing women to have abortions or something
She's not irrelevant, Hillary Clinton said she was a woman that she admired greatly. A street with her name on it was quietly changed when they began tearing down statues. Why? Planned Parenthood carries out her plans every day. They abort more black children than any other race. They have brain washed women that what they are carrying is a lump of cells. From the Holocaust to this very day eugenics is still being practiced, its just under a different name.
 
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You know what hypocritical? To claim to be pro-life but to say all those people who died at 9/11, their lives don't matter

Their lives do matter, they were murdered by terrorists. Innocent people died. The same with abortion, the innocent die, every single day.
 

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Your missing the issue.
Answer the question for me of you would, cause I'm confused.
It is okay to kill a baby when _______?
When it is self defense.

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You know what hypocritical? To claim to be pro-life but to say all those people who died at 9/11, their lives don't matter
Their lives matter, your posts don't.
 

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Their lives matter, your posts don't.
Don't back pedal. You said what you said. I said $3,000 Americans were murdered by Islamic terrorists and you countered with not everyone's lives matter
 

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Your missing the issue.
Answer the question for me of you would, cause I'm confused.
It is okay to kill a baby when _______?
Irrelevant because that's not the topic we were discussing. The topic we were discussing was that Margaret Sanger is allegedly responsible for abortions when she's been deceased for 60 something years
 
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Irrelevant because that's not the topic we were discussing. The topic we were discussing was that Margaret Sanger is allegedly responsible for abortions when she's been deceased for 60 something years


No, the topic we are discussing is a racist congressman who associates with other racists and then calls Trump supporters Nazi's. I know because I started the thread. ;)

Follow me here. Who founded Wal-Mart? We all know it was Sam Walton. He's long since gone. What does Walmart do? Is it a church, a barn, fire station? No. It's a store that sells product. It has greeters at the doors, most of them still have the color blue, most still have a place to do banking, a place to eat, get your hair cut, see a doctor or eye specialist. Why? Because the store still holds to Sam Waltons ideals, the man who started the whole thing. And it's the same with Margret Sanger, her ideals still run through PP today. Murder of the innocent to create a perfect race, she showed Hitler how it was done and her ideals are being carried out to this day.
 

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No, the topic we are discussing is a racist congressman who associates with other racists and then calls Trump supporters Nazi's. I know because I started the thread. ;)

Follow me here. Who founded Wal-Mart? We all know it was Sam Walton. He's long since gone. What does Walmart do? Is it a church, a barn, fire station? No. It's a store that sells product. It has greeters at the doors, most of them still have the color blue, most still have a place to do banking, a place to eat, get your hair cut, see a doctor or eye specialist. Why? Because the store still holds to Sam Waltons ideals, the man who started the whole thing. And it's the same with Margret Sanger, her ideals still run through PP today. Murder of the innocent to create a perfect race, she showed Hitler how it was done and her ideals are being carried out to this day.
Okay but planned Parenthood isn't forcing anyone to abort their pregnancies
Just like Walmart isn't forcing anyone to shop there
 

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Don't back pedal. You said what you said. I said $3,000 Americans were murdered by Islamic terrorists and you countered with not everyone's lives matter
You twist words, you interpret what people say in a way that is ugly and distorting. No one wants to read your posts so no one wants to go through and prove you wrong. Besides, every time we respond it only means we need to respond again and again and again. You are like something that is stuck on a shoe and you can't scrape it off.
 

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You twist words, you interpret what people say in a way that is ugly and distorting. No one wants to read your posts so no one wants to go through and prove you wrong. Besides, every time we respond it only means we need to respond again and again and again. You are like something that is stuck on a shoe and you can't scrape it off.
You said what you said. You're back pedaling
I said 3000Americans were murdered by Islamic terrorists
And you replied in big bold letters even that everyone dies and not everyone's life matters
 

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You said what you said. You're back pedaling
I said 3000Americans were murdered by Islamic terrorists
And you replied in big bold letters even that everyone dies and not everyone's life matters
If I truly said that you would quote the post directly. It is so easy, you simply hit reply. And then everyone would see what a liar you are.

I have done the work to show everyone on this forum that you twist what people say, you reinterpret what they say and then attack your interpretation (straw man). Nothing you say has any credibility.
 

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If I truly said that you would quote the post directly. It is so easy, you simply hit reply. And then everyone would see what a liar you are.

I have done the work to show everyone on this forum that you twist what people say, you reinterpret what they say and then attack your interpretation (straw man). Nothing you say has any credibility.
You tried to correlate 9/11 with abortions. If you don't see how that's disrespectful to all the victims and I can't help you.
But let's just go down your rabbit hole for a second. Let's say it was because of abortions, did all those people deserve to die because women are having abortions?
It's also implying that 9/11 was America's fault. If that's the way you feel, leave there are plenty of other countries available to you
 

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You tried to correlate 9/11 with abortions. If you don't see how that's disrespectful to all the victims and I can't help you.
But let's just go down your rabbit hole for a second. Let's say it was because of abortions, did all those people deserve to die because women are having abortions?
It's also implying that 9/11 was America's fault. If that's the way you feel, leave there are plenty of other countries available to you
Go ahead, quote the post, because then I will show what a total liar you are.
 

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I will also add that there are some topics that are emotionally charged for people. For a lot of people here it's abortion. For me it's 911 because 3000 Americans lost their lives over some barbaric ridings in a 2000 year old book.
If you don't see why this infuriates me then I don't know what else to tell you.
So for you to try to correlate it with abortions is gaslighting the problem