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Dude653

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So anyway back to the original topic of abortions
Even if Sanger was racist, as I already mentioned, she's been deceased for over 60 years so unless her ghost is forcing African-American women to have abortions then I don't see the relevance
Divine knowledge no woman in America has been forced to have an abortion unless it's a teenage girl and her parents make her do it
Planned Parenthood doesn't Force any woman to use their services, they are simply available for anyone who chooses to use them
In america, if you are pro-life you can campaign and vote for people who represent your interests. As for china, I don't live there so I don't see how there's anything I can do about it
 

Dude653

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Read the post, I'll quote it for you

"if they have their way this will be true around the world. We are moving to a one world government and that will not be based on US law which only represent 5% of the world."
Ok.. I will concede that I misrepresented your argument on that one
You're still wrong about the Dick Cheney thing
 

ZNP

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Ok.. I will concede that I misrepresented your argument on that one
You're still wrong about the Dick Cheney thing
Once again I don't care about your opinion on 911 I do care about your post alleging that I said the people who died on 911 their deaths didn't matter

"You know what hypocritical? To claim to be pro-life but to say all those people who died at 9/11, their lives don't matter"

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Dude653

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Once again I don't care about your opinion on 911 I do care about your post alleging that I said the people who died on 911 their deaths didn't matter

"You know what hypocritical? To claim to be pro-life but to say all those people who died at 9/11, their lives don't matter"

Post #185
If I misrepresented your argument then I will concede but you're still wrong about the Dick Cheney thing
 

ZNP

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If I misrepresented your argument then I will concede but you're still wrong about the Dick Cheney thing
Well, at least you are willing to concede some things. Thank you.
 

Dude653

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Back to the topic of abortion.
I kind of feel like my opinion on what a woman does with her uterus is irrelevant but the Holocaust was Hitler trying to eradicate an entire race of people and even if Margaret sanger was racist and hated black people, no one is forcing black women to abort their babies
They do so on their own free will
 

Dude653

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The reason you see higher abortion rates in African-American communities is poverty like I mentioned before
A lot of this is due to generation of wealth gaps that go all the way back to slavery and Jim Crow that maybe that's a different topic
 
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This one.... If I am straw Manning concede. So for clarification, a wake up call about what?

Hey !!!

I asked you both nicely to stick to the thread. This is not about 911. You all are gonna get this thread shut down and then I'm gonna knock your heads together!! Drop it and either start another thread or pm each other. Take this lovers quarrel somewhere else, BOTH of you!! Knock it off!!
 
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kaylagrl

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Back to the topic of abortion.
:poop: The topic of the thread is not abortion. Bro, you are starting to vex me greatly.


I kind of feel like my opinion on what a woman does with her uterus is irrelevant but the Holocaust was Hitler trying to eradicate an entire race of people and even if Margaret sanger was racist and hated black people, no one is forcing black women to abort their babies
They do so on their own free will
You don't have to look very far back in history to see that black women were sterilized against their will, and you can thank Sanger for that. Eugenics has never stopped, the propaganda is the same. Brain washed women will tell you "my body, my choice" a mantra used since Roe was passed in 73. I correct them every time I see it. Even though we have DNA today and other medical advancements, women, especially young ones, still repeat propaganda from PP to this day. They still say it's just a clump of cells. Forced, brain washed, same difference, they are murdering their children as fast as they can get pregnant.
 

Dude653

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:poop: The topic of the thread is not abortion. Bro, you are starting to vex me greatly.




You don't have to look very far back in history to see that black women were sterilized against their will, and you can thank Sanger for that. Eugenics has never stopped, the propaganda is the same. Brain washed women will tell you "my body, my choice" a mantra used since Roe was passed in 73. I correct them every time I see it. Even though we have DNA today and other medical advancements, women, especially young ones, still repeat propaganda from PP to this day. They still say it's just a clump of cells. Forced, brain washed, same difference, they are murdering their children as fast as they can get pregnant.
Okay but that's not happening now.
My point is it's a more nuanced problem than what your presenting
The average black family has about 10 times less well than the average white family. As I mentioned earlier this goes all the way back to slavery and Jim Crow
So you have a woman who was already desperately poor in the last thing she needs is another mouth to feed.
Adoption is largely a myth. Most of the children are just passed around from one foster home to another until they turn 18
Often they are physically and even sexually abused in foster homes
It's not a good life for a child
 

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So to recap my argument, abortion in African American communities is largely due to poverty which is more of a result of several hundred years of systemic racism and less about a woman who's been deceased for 60 years was doing
 

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Look at how much abortion has had an impact on the poor since 1970s

https://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGSU/college-of-arts-and-sciences/NCFMR/documents/FP/FP-13-13.pdf

Around 1970 76.5% of women old enough to be married were married. Today it is 31%.

Mission to destroy marriage, accomplished.

Since 1970 the number of kids in single parent families has more than doubled, nearly tripled.

https://www.statista.com/statistics...living-with-a-single-mother-or-single-father/

Nearly 30% of single parents live in poverty while only 6% of married couples do.

https://www.aecf.org/blog/child-well-being-in-single-parent-families

At this rate poverty in America will be equitable when everyone will be poor.

Looking at the statistics it makes you think that the goal is to keep people in poverty. Since Roe v. Wade single parents have increased greatly, kids in poverty increased greatly, and marriages decreased greatly.
 

Dude653

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Look at how much abortion has had an impact on the poor since 1970s

https://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGSU/college-of-arts-and-sciences/NCFMR/documents/FP/FP-13-13.pdf

Around 1970 76.5% of women old enough to be married were married. Today it is 31%.

Mission to destroy marriage, accomplished.

Since 1970 the number of kids in single parent families has more than doubled, nearly tripled.

https://www.statista.com/statistics...living-with-a-single-mother-or-single-father/

Nearly 30% of single parents live in poverty while only 6% of married couples do.

https://www.aecf.org/blog/child-well-being-in-single-parent-families

At this rate poverty in America will be equitable when everyone will be poor.

Looking at the statistics it makes you think that the goal is to keep people in poverty. Since Roe v. Wade single parents have increased greatly, kids in poverty increased greatly, and marriages decreased greatly.
You may be on to something there but like I said. It's a more nuanced problems than just planned Parenthood is allegedly trying to genocide black people
Like I said, Margaret Sandra has been deceased for 60 years and it's not the same organization anymore
Just like today's Germans are not complicit for what Hitler did
 

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It physically hurts me when people say the Holocaust doesn’t matter as much as abortion. I had family die in that horror. Numbers don’t make something more or less important. It doesn’t make it less awful.
 
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Both Abortion and the Holocaust are grave evils and to be totally condemned. Future Generations will look back at us and wonder: "how could those people do nothing when millions were being killed every year" in Abortion as we wonder about the Holocaust. Abortion is the Holocaust of our time and has led to nearly 2 billion innocent children being murdered worldwide.
 

Dude653

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It physically hurts me when people say the Holocaust doesn’t matter as much as abortion. I had family die in that horror. Numbers don’t make something more or less important. It doesn’t make it less awful.
It's a quite silly argument in my opinion
 

ZNP

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It physically hurts me when people say the Holocaust doesn’t matter as much as abortion. I had family die in that horror. Numbers don’t make something more or less important. It doesn’t make it less awful.
Oh I missed that, which post was that?
 

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So to recap my argument, abortion in African American communities is largely due to poverty which is more of a result of several hundred years of systemic racism and less about a woman who's been deceased for 60 years was doing
It's not an economic issue. It's a moral issue. Poor people who value life don't have abortions.
 

Dude653

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It's not an economic issue. It's a moral issue. Poor people who value life don't have abortions.
So maybe if we can lower poverty rates you might see abortion numbers decrease also?
Since there seems to be a correlation between poverty and abortions
 

ZNP

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So maybe if we can lower poverty rates you might see abortion numbers decrease also?
Since there seems to be a correlation between poverty and abortions
So then maybe if you decrease abortion you will decrease poverty. As soon as abortion was legalized nationwide poverty increased nationwide.