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The Moloch worshippers in Hollywood fully stand with Ukraine.
Yeah it turns out a lot of people don't like it when Russia invades a sovereign country.
 

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Yeah it turns out a lot of people don't like it when Russia invades a sovereign country.
What?! People don't like it when you invade a sovereign country? That is bad, that is real bad!

1) we invaded North Korea (at the request of South Korea), 2–4) we invaded Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos 4–5) we invaded Iraq twice, 6) Afghanistan, and oh, yeah, 7) in 1983 we invaded Granada, 8) we invaded Cuba. And then there all the African countries that we ‘semi-invaded’ — under the guise of training and equipping: Algeria, Burkina Faso, Chad, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal and Tunisia – not to mention operations in Libya, Somalia, Uganda, Kenya, Djibouti — that’s a total of 23.

However, we bomb more than invade. With drone strike capability and the U.S. President having ‘Authorized Use of Military Force’* without Congressional approval. Libya, Syria, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan as examples.

Why didn't anyone tell us these countries don't like this!?
 

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What?! People don't like it when you invade a sovereign country? That is bad, that is real bad!

1) we invaded North Korea (at the request of South Korea), 2–4) we invaded Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos 4–5) we invaded Iraq twice, 6) Afghanistan, and oh, yeah, 7) in 1983 we invaded Granada, 8) we invaded Cuba. And then there all the African countries that we ‘semi-invaded’ — under the guise of training and equipping: Algeria, Burkina Faso, Chad, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal and Tunisia – not to mention operations in Libya, Somalia, Uganda, Kenya, Djibouti — that’s a total of 23.

However, we bomb more than invade. With drone strike capability and the U.S. President having ‘Authorized Use of Military Force’* without Congressional approval. Libya, Syria, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan as examples.

Why didn't anyone tell us these countries don't like this!?
That may be true but it's still a red herring and and irrelevant to the topic.
The ukrainians have a right to fight back
 

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That may be true but it's still a red herring and and irrelevant to the topic.
The ukrainians have a right to fight back
It is certainly relevant to the topic of this becoming WWIII and the rest of the world rising up to attack the US.
 

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It is certainly relevant to the topic of this becoming WWIII and the rest of the world rising up to attack the US.
I don't think it will come to that because the only countries supporting Putin are basically third world countries
Not even China is supporting him on this
 

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Also the molech worshiper thing is hyperbole and just sounds like more tin foil hat craziness
 

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99.9% right is a pretty darn good percentage.

If Russia fires 1,000 missiles and only one hits some other country that is still 99.9% that were on target.
 

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99.9% right is a pretty darn good percentage.

If Russia fires 1,000 missiles and only one hits some other country that is still 99.9% that were on target.
That's assuming someone is going to be willing to even do that. Imagine you're the guy who's told to launch the missiles. You know as soon as you hit that button, you're going to die in about 5 minutes. Are you going to hit that button?
 

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The Moloch worshippers in Hollywood fully stand with Ukraine.
The C.C guide to political discourse
"Everyone I don't like is satanic"
 

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Even though this bomb on Poland is "technically" an attack from Russia on NATO what we need are cooler heads. As long as no one was hurt. Oops, two Americans were killed. Ouch, this is getting worse. Where is Biden when you need him?

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Russian missiles cross into NATO member Poland, kill 2: senior US intelligence official

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russi...poland-kill-2-senior-us-intelligence-official
Biden renewed these commitments again in September when he addressed Russian President Vladimir Putin from the White House and said, "We’re fully prepared to defend…our NATO allies. To defend every single inch of NATO territory — every single inch.

"So, Mr. Putin, don’t misunderstand what I’m saying: every inch,"

We'll soon know whether or not he was bluffing.
My bet is that he'll show himself to have been bluffing.
 
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Even though this bomb on Poland is "technically" an attack from Russia on NATO what we need are cooler heads. As long as no one was hurt. Oops, two Americans were killed. Ouch, this is getting worse. Where is Biden when you need him?

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He's busy making himself look weak while in China.
 

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He's busy making himself look weak while in China.
I think the script says "Biden exits stage left"? Big Bad orange man steps up to the microphone in the spotlight at center stage.
 

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We'll soon know whether or not he was bluffing.
My bet is that he'll show himself to have been bluffing.
Defending "every inch" of territory hardly requires a war over what seems like a mistake rather than purposeful targeting. I would predict that unless it can be proven that these missiles were intentionally fired by Russia with the intention to hit Poland, the most that we will see is some additional support for Ukraine and perhaps discussion about improving Poland's defenses. Furthermore, I would argue that this is perfectly in line with "defending every inch".

Just hypothetically, if the Mexican army had a firefight with some criminals, terrorists or an invading (non-US) force near the US-Mexican border and one stray bullet fired by a Mexican soldier reached the US side and hit a US border guard, would the US be failing to defend every inch of US territory if they didn't launch an attack in response to that?
 
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Defending "every inch" of territory hardly requires a war over what seems like a mistake rather than purposeful targeting. I would predict that unless it can be proven that these missiles were intentionally fired by Russia with the intention to hit Poland, the most that we will see is some additional support for Ukraine and perhaps discussion about improving Poland's defenses. Furthermore, I would argue that this is perfectly in line with "defending every inch".

Just hypothetically, if the Mexican army had a firefight with some criminals, terrorists or an invading (non-US) force near the US-Mexican border and one stray bullet fired by a Mexican soldier reached the US side and hit a US border guard, would the US be failing to defend every inch of US territory if they didn't launch an attack in response to that?
Not to be argumentative here, but biden did use the words, "Every inch" multiple times as if he meant it as ironclad. It seem far more so than just before the Russia/Ukraine invasion when he seemed to excuse a "minor incursion" of Ukraine, after which Russia began with just that.
As for the US/Mexico border, I doubt there would be any response at all if bullets errantly flew over the border. We already have military-aged males coming over the border by the millions, and Kamala Harris just laughs about it and claims the border is secure, even though she won't even go there.