Christians response to gay marriage?

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Dude653

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you just said : "You can convince yourself you're in love with anyone." Can you convince yourself that you are in love with your neighbor's wife?
I agree
That's not how it works
I'm not in love Rosanne Barr and no amount of trying to convince myself that I am is going to change that.
 
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kaylagrl

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I'm asking you for a citation to back up your claim.

And I said it happened in the town I am living in. So no I can't reveal that info. on an open forum.
 
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I agree
That's not how it works
I'm not in love Rosanne Barr and no amount of trying to convince myself that I am is going to change that.
Sure it is! Dude you've watched too many Hallmark movies. You've never had a person you utterly disliked suddenly change in your estimation? You change your stance on that person. You wouldn't give them the time of day but over time you even become friends. Dang it, you've grown on me in all the time we've been on here together. I use to think you were a liberal windbag, and now I think you're an honest, liberal windbag. See, changed my opinion!!
 
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I was referring to this ^^^^




So far you barely reached an actual position of disagreeing with me, you have just made broad sweeping emotional assertions.

But I will be waiting for you to bring out actual legal and logical arguments in support of non traditional marriage :coffee::coffee: Cofefe time.
If you want logical and legal arguments you could start by reading the 1968 Supreme Court decision in Loving Vs Virginia
 
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You know not everything has to be to the 99th degree to be considered "true" persecution.
Christians are vilified on campuses across North America.
are their marriages being compared to bestiality?
 
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according to science.

But several studies reveal that too much estrogen [extreme vegan diets] or trauma like sexual abuse is a major factor for young boys who later become involved in same sex relationships.

It's been proven these boys were not homosexual nor possessed any traits but due to circumstances are basically mentally ill from their experiences.

It's no difference than children picked on and becoming narcissistic.

They're not born that way but become it due to trauma.
Can you cite these studies?
 
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Standard equipment is normal female and male anatomy.
OK. I have a friend who several weeks before her wedding was diagnosed with cervical and ovarian cancer. She had a total hysterectomy to save her life. She does not have standard female equipment. Does this fact invalidate her marriage?
 

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OK. I have a friend who several weeks before her wedding was diagnosed with cervical and ovarian cancer. She had a total hysterectomy to save her life. She does not have standard female equipment. Does this fact invalidate her marriage?
No, and I never said that it did. With a hysterectomy she cannot have children, but she can still have sex with her husband.
 

SomeDisciple

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The only legal requirements for marriage should be that they are both human and they are both adults and that they both consent
And yes I am a libertarian because I can't get behind criminalizing anything if you can't point to a victim
If you're libertarian, then why not take the position that government should get out of marriage altogether? Civil marriage (from my own libertarian perspective) discriminates, because it creates legal classes by "marital status" and then treats them differently based on that status (tax codes, workplace benefits etc.). Why should people be rewarded by the government for what is essentially a lifestyle choice?
 

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When "marriage" was "protected" by a SCOTUS decision, the SCOTUS essentially decided that marriage is what government says it is- when marriage (with respect to biblical marriage) should be (and ultimately IS- from a biblical perspective) an institution independent of civil authority.

I think the decision could have been made in earnest to protect marriage... but really marriage does not need the protection, validation, or approval of the government and I would add, married people do not NEED SPECIAL PRIVILIGES EITHER.

At the end of the day, rebellious-gay people are going to have their rebellious gay-sex: the government should not be in the business of rewarding people for sin and rebellion- and THAT is why there should be no gay marriage. We give the homosexuals, and all of the lgbt SPACE to REPENT... that is IT. No recognition, no acceptance, no reward. Tolerance, and not an inch more than tolerance and space to repent.
 

Dude653

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If you're libertarian, then why not take the position that government should get out of marriage altogether? Civil marriage (from my own libertarian perspective) discriminates, because it creates legal classes by "marital status" and then treats them differently based on that status (tax codes, workplace benefits etc.). Why should people be rewarded by the government for what is essentially a lifestyle choice?
Because they are taxpaying citizens in their taxes pay the courthouse clerk's salaries so they should be entitled to the same privileges as any other tax paying citizen
Remember when the government had to get involved and tell States they can't discriminate against black people?
 

Dude653

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Sure it is! Dude you've watched too many Hallmark movies. You've never had a person you utterly disliked suddenly change in your estimation? You change your stance on that person. You wouldn't give them the time of day but over time you even become friends. Dang it, you've grown on me in all the time we've been on here together. I use to think you were a liberal windbag, and now I think you're an honest, liberal windbag. See, changed my opinion!!
 

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Are you being silly? You're not making any sense.
So it seems you are saying that you cannot force yourself to fall in love with someone of the same gender yet you have no trouble insisting that forcing your self to fall in love with someone others aren't romantically oriented to is no big deal. Apparently it is a big deal.
 
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No, and I never said that it did. With a hysterectomy she cannot have children, but she can still have sex with her husband.
you suggested that "standard equipment" would be a better term than "correct": equipment as people without correct equipment can't be considered to be in a "real" marriage. But now you seem to be saying that equipment is irrelevant.