Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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Your arguments are absurd. There is not a shred of actual fact in anything that FE people proffer as evidence. Misunderstood and irrelevant Bible verses have nothing to do with the shape of the earth.
You said: "Misunderstood and irrelevant Bible verses..."

Your statement demonstrates who has programmed your world view.

Do you understand what God said here:

This is what the LORD says:
“Only if the heavens above could be measured
and the foundations of the earth below searched out
would I reject all of Israel’s descendants
because of all they have done,”
 

Gideon300

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So - are you confirming that you most definitely do not fit in the group of people referred to in this saying?

“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” – Aristotle

Anyone who is not capable and willing to consider 'Flat Earth' from within the 'Flat Earth' model - why are you [even] in this thread???
Last I heard, Aristotle was not a born again believer. However, I have looked at FE from the perspective of a 71 year old who has lived experience. I've lived in four different countries, both Northern and Southern hemispheres. I've looked at some of the FE propaganda and had a bit of a chuckle. I've stated my reasons for rejecting FE a number of times.

This FE model business is ridiculous. If I know it to be false, what is the point? I reject the theory of evolution because I have enough information to convince me that it is false. I have no intention of considering God's creation from the evolutionary model. Why should I? Likewise the "FE model".

I get similar suggestions from people from other religions. They want me to look at Buddhism or Islam or Mormonism whatever. I know a little about those religions. However, I am utterly convinced that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. I don't need to be an expert on everything else in order to reject it.
 

Gideon300

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It is impossible to land on a spinning ball.
It's possible to land on a globe that is 12,700 km in diameter. We are moving with the earth. You don't sense that you are moving in a plane for the same reason. If you jump, you retain the momentum the earth gives as you rotate with it. Yes, air resistance will slow you down but to such a small extent that you won't know it.
 

Gideon300

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Dino, you create the best laughs on here, especially with this = "you have not and cannot refute the truth."

God's word is Truth and those of us who know and believe "every word of God" are laughing all the way to the Eternal Bank.............

Gravity cannot be proven and never will be = go buy a helium balloon and let it go and carefully observe.
Jump off a cliff. You will experience gravity for yourself.
 

RaceRunner

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It's possible to land on a globe that is 12,700 km in diameter. We are moving with the earth. You don't sense that you are moving in a plane for the same reason. If you jump, you retain the momentum the earth gives as you rotate with it. Yes, air resistance will slow you down but to such a small extent that you won't know it.
In which direction are you referring to?
 

Dino246

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If the earth would be a globe, multiple planes wouldn't be able to fly in different directions all at the same time and still reach their destination.
You are ignorant of basic physics. Because of that, your assertions are laughably erroneous.
 

RaceRunner

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It's possible to land on a globe that is 12,700 km in diameter. We are moving with the earth. You don't sense that you are moving in a plane for the same reason. If you jump, you retain the momentum the earth gives as you rotate with it. Yes, air resistance will slow you down but to such a small extent that you won't know it.
Planes are flying in multiple directions at the same time; if the earth was really moving it would be impossible for so many planes to move in so many different directions and also move with one direction of a moving earth.
 
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Jump off a cliff. You will experience gravity for yourself.
This is hilarious and again shows who controls your world view of science.

Simple Science Fact = Air cannot support your body weight and so you travel thru the air to the ground = No gravity needed!!!
 

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You are ignorant of basic physics. Because of that, your assertions are laughably erroneous.
Do you believe all planes in the air at any given time can move in the one direction you believe the earth is spinning while at the same time many of the planes travel in different directions?
 

GaryA

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If you were using the same evidence and interpreting it with a different model we could look at the model.

FE advocates don't interpret the same body of evidence differently, they reject the evidence altogether.
Gravity for example - rejected by FE advocates. Ergo an alternative working-model without gravity must be produced.
You apparently do not understand what a 'model' is - or how it may come into existence - or what it represents.

You seem to be suggesting that any-and-every model in existence MUST be based ONLY on the 'data' that the Ball Earth model accepts.

Do you realize just how pretentious and unscientific that is?

Any model in existence may put forth whatever explanation for 'observation' and 'evidence' it considers to make sense within that model.

Do you realize that 'gravity' is not - and cannot ever be - 'evidence' - but rather - that it is in fact [only] a postulation of/for 'evidence'?

The interpretation and explanation of 'observation' utilizing 'evidence' is within each model according to the 'basis-of-fact' foundation of the model.

Any model can have its own interpretation and explanation concerning why/how/etc. that something occurs - but, you cannot force the explanation of one particular model on any-and-every other model. It is the very height of self-delusion to think that such a thing is in any way valid in a scientific approach to anything.

You are demanding that every model should explain everything-in-existence strictly based only on the Ball Earth model 'basis-of-fact' foundation.

Sorry - it does not work that way.

You need to learn how to examine the 'evidence' for 'observation' from within each model.

The model sets the tone and definition for how everything works within that model.

You don't.

To understand it properly, you MUST look at [any particular model] from the point-of-view of that model - period.

There are no two ways about it.

Get used to it...
 

GaryA

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At least produce a map, don't borrow a spherical map. Spherical measurements have been rejected rigorously by FE advocates therefore all spherical maps are unavailable to FE modeling.
You seem to be confused concerning what 'calculation' and 'measurement' really mean.