Do you have unfettered freewill?

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Nehemiah6

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Just a simple yes or no will suffice. If you would like to include a Bible verse that is fine and a short explanation. I know many of you could go in to great depth but please just limit yourselves to your best argument. Thanks.
Of course. That goes without saying.
 

oyster67

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Just a simple yes or no will suffice. If you would like to include a Bible verse that is fine and a short explanation. I know many of you could go in to great depth but please just limit yourselves to your best argument. Thanks.
Yes.

I have "unfettered free will" because God gave His only begotten Son to provide an opportunity for ALL men to repent and come to the light.

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

That is the core essence of the Gospel.
 

Cameron143

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Yes.

I have "unfettered free will" because God gave His only begotten Son to provide an opportunity for ALL men to repent and come to the light.

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

That is the core essence of the Gospel.
Thanks for sharing.
 

SomeDisciple

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Our will is free.
Our ability to execute our will is limited- unless we will God's will, then God will make it unlimited.
 

Eli1

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Just a simple yes or no will suffice. If you would like to include a Bible verse that is fine and a short explanation. I know many of you could go in to great depth but please just limit yourselves to your best argument. Thanks.
We do have free will given by God but it’s limited. I’m gonna put an arbitrary number here. 60% we don’t have free will and 40% we do have free will. The numbers are to illustrate that we don’t have absolute free will.

In the software wold, a virtual world designer can allow agents in the world free-will using probability while retaining 100% knowledge of the environment if they want to check.

This to me brings no contradictions between an all knowing God and us having free will.

I could be completely wrong of course, but this is how I reason it now.
 

Cameron143

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We do have free will given by God but it’s limited. I’m gonna put an arbitrary number here. 60% we don’t have free will and 40% we do have free will. The numbers are to illustrate that we don’t have absolute free will.

In the software wold, a virtual world designer can allow agents in the world free-will using probability while retaining 100% knowledge of the environment if they want to check.

This to me brings no contradictions between an all knowing God and us having free will.

I could be completely wrong of course, but this is how I reason it now.
There are no wrong answers. And your answers are always interesting to me. Thanks for sharing.
 

Dino246

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Just a simple yes or no will suffice. If you would like to include a Bible verse that is fine and a short explanation. I know many of you could go in to great depth but please just limit yourselves to your best argument. Thanks.
Perhaps you could define, for the purposes of your question, the word "unfettered". It's literal meaning is to have handcuffs removed... but I suspect you have a figurative definition in mind.
 

Cameron143

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Perhaps you could define, for the purposes of your question, the word "unfettered". It's literal meaning is to have handcuffs removed... but I suspect you have a figurative definition in mind.
Yes it's figurative. Basically, are there any restrictions on man's freewill.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Just a simple yes or no will suffice. If you would like to include a Bible verse that is fine and a short explanation. I know many of you could go in to great depth but please just limit yourselves to your best argument. Thanks.
“You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free.

But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh;

rather, serve one another humbly in love.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:13‬ ‭NIV‬‬

a freedom is here

“To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32, 34-36‬ ‭NIV‬‬
 

Cameron143

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“You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free.

But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh;

rather, serve one another humbly in love.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:13‬ ‭NIV‬‬

a freedom is here

“To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32, 34-36‬ ‭NIV‬‬
Thanks for responding.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Thanks for responding.
always welcome

“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves;

if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:24-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

freedom
 

soberxp

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Ephesians 2

1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
 

Snacks

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Yes, I have unfettered free will, but thank God for His guidance and protection.
 

Cameron143

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Ephesians 2

1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Great set of verses and I thank you for sharing.